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03-31-2005 06:45 PM  13 years agoPost 1
HugeOne

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Quebec, Canada

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Please everybody, what type of ESC do you use in your eolo? try to name a few advantage VS disavantage.

Thanks!!!

Raptor e620 w/V-bar, Tango 45-06, Phoenix 85HV, TrueRC 12S1P 4000mAh

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03-31-2005 07:36 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Ben-T-Spindle

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Central Illinois

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Kontronik Jazz is the best. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...?&I=LXGCW2&P=ML

Use with a Kontronik Twist-33 motor and a TP4000-4s3p LiPo and you will have a real winning combination.

... BTS

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03-31-2005 08:05 PM  13 years agoPost 3
V-22 Osprey

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Sidney, Maine

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Good price at Tower but out of stock till late april.

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03-31-2005 09:30 PM  13 years agoPost 4
Ben-T-Spindle

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Central Illinois

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Rchover.com has them but they want $30 over list price!
http://www.rchover.com/escs___connectors

... BTS

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03-31-2005 11:21 PM  13 years agoPost 5
psychopic

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Bournemouth - UK

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i second the Jazz. Much better BEC and startup

Rappy 30v2, OS32, f3001 servos, S9243+GY401
Eolo Pro, C40 8L, Kontronik jazz,HS81's,GY401/s9254

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04-01-2005 12:21 AM  13 years agoPost 6
V-22 Osprey

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Tower is the place, with $15.00 discount code its a great price...$135.00. Too bad there out right now!

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04-01-2005 12:47 AM  13 years agoPost 7
jmiceli11

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Erie, PA, USA

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Contact Jeremy at RCHover.com and see what he can do for you. He is always a pleasure to deal with.

John

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04-01-2005 01:55 AM  13 years agoPost 8
gwk

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Denver, CO

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I agree....Jeremy at rchover.com is the greatest!!! I'm sure he can help you out. He has been flying helis for a long time and knows what he is talking about. He doesn't sell junk!

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04-01-2005 02:22 AM  13 years agoPost 9
JoeR

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western NY

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I use a Phoenix 45 on 8 cell NiMH packs. One of my key criteria was that Castle is in the US and has very good customer service. The disadvantage is that it seems their customer service needs to be used more then some of the other brands. Based on what others have said I am thinking a Kontronik is a better solution.

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04-01-2005 02:26 AM  13 years agoPost 10
HugeOne

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I got a CC45, not too bad except for the startup and BEC. If I use an external BEC and ferrite ring will the CC45 do the job? or I absolutely need one of those 150$ jazz... Don't want to destroy my heli because of ESC failure...

Raptor e620 w/V-bar, Tango 45-06, Phoenix 85HV, TrueRC 12S1P 4000mAh

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04-01-2005 03:10 AM  13 years agoPost 11
JoeR

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I am not sure about CC controllers. I have had a few problems with them but CC stands behind their product (not for the cost of aircraft damage though).

I going into this summer I will put an external BEC on my Eolo.

The important issue with these electrics is to isolate the electronics. The Eolo is difficult because it has so few mounting locations. The recommended location of the gyro next to the receiver is potentially a problem.

Related story: I have a Logo 10 that had a glitch last summer (on its first flight with a Berg receiver). It it flipped on its side while spooling up. I traded e-mails with Peter Berg trying to find out what went wrong. Before installing the Berg I had a Hitec Super Slim installed and I did not see a problem with it (though it was only for one flight, its first). I had the gyro installed about a half inch behind the receiver and the antenna ran next to the gyro. (I have a CC60 and UBEC installed on it.)

His recommendation to reduce the possibility of a glitch was to:
- move the electronics at least an inch apart, two inches would be better. Especially important is having the gyro, esc, and external BEC as far away from the receiver as possible. And do not route the antenna wire near these components.

- twist all wires- servo wires, ESC to motor wires, etc.

- add a ferrite ring on the ESC wire at the receiver. The external BEC also. He also recommended one on long servo leads. Which isn't a problem on the Eolo.

On my last Eolo rebuild I moved the receiver out onto the boom and the gyro as close to the front of stock mounting plate as possible. I have more then an inch between them now. Besides one hovering flight to test it late last fall, I haven't flown it yet. (I am just a begining anyway so the only time I really tax the heli is when I hit the ground unintentionally.

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04-01-2005 03:16 AM  13 years agoPost 12
JoeR

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I haven't noticed a problem with start up. I have it set to slow spool up (not the slowest) and use curves.

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04-01-2005 03:36 AM  13 years agoPost 13
HugeOne

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Quebec, Canada

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My newly built BEC is not a problem cause it's the linear type (no switching like in ESC), I've put a ring on the ESC lead and all power wire are covered by braided copper tube (communication wire shielding). Never heard of separating the receiver and gyro before...I'll try this for sure...what kind of problem did you have with your CC controller? Thanks!

Raptor e620 w/V-bar, Tango 45-06, Phoenix 85HV, TrueRC 12S1P 4000mAh

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04-05-2005 08:51 AM  13 years agoPost 14
major_bodger

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Swindon, Wiltshire, UK

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Just in case your looking for one that's not brushless, I use a CC Pegasus 35P on the stock motor (Until it expires!) and I've had no probs so far.

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04-05-2005 10:43 AM  13 years agoPost 15
ozace

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melbourne, australia

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I have tried most of the common speedys and the kontronik is the best.(kontronik, jeti,hacker, CC, align,mgm, electronic model,hyperion)
I havent tried schulze but i believe that are top notch too.

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04-05-2005 12:24 PM  13 years agoPost 16
crashtom

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Santa Clarita Ca.

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I too am looking for a speed controller. I used to run the CC-45 but now that it is going in a scale fuselage, I'd like to get something with a more realistic spool-up. My old 45 would spin at idle for about 10 seconds before raising the rpms in about 4 seconds to speed. I've read that the Jazz has a more realistic 6 second spool-up. I may be leaning that direction now.

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04-05-2005 12:31 PM  13 years agoPost 17
Lorents

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Oslo, Norway

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I have a CC45 with 3S lipo.
It works for me, I use it in Gov mode and the startup is fine after upgrading the software to 1.11.

Lorents

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04-05-2005 02:36 PM  13 years agoPost 18
HugeOne

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Quebec, Canada

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Mine is the old version, so upgrade to the software is not possible without sending back to CC... Thing I should do soon because they tell they gonna do it for free!

Raptor e620 w/V-bar, Tango 45-06, Phoenix 85HV, TrueRC 12S1P 4000mAh

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04-05-2005 03:55 PM  13 years agoPost 19
JoeR

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western NY

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Hugeone- to your earlier question. I don't remember what happened to my CC controllers. I know I've had two Dragon controllers blow. Dragon controllers were the predessors to the Phoenix and were sensored controllers. I know I have sent in a couple of Phoenixs for software updates and I know I have had one early Phoenix replaced when their supplier did not put enough copper on the board and it created problems with helicopters. I don't remember the problem though and these issues were from a couple years ago with early Phoenix's.

People have had problems with the controller cutting out on them. it also seems the BEC can be overdrawn easily on helicopters.

Some of this should change when CC introduces their new 3 amp switching BECs in their controllers soon. At the Toledo show Patrick of CC said they are ultrahigh frequency (120 mhz?) so they should not cause any radio interference.

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04-05-2005 05:44 PM  13 years agoPost 20
darrens

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United Kingdom

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Jazz....Excellent BEC and soft spool up, can't go wrong with one of these.

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!

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