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03-29-2005 08:47 PM  13 years agoPost 1
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Which is the better video setup for XTR?

I now have a low end Geforce FX 5200 and a PIII which works. I'm think about building a new computer. I want to know which video card is the better one. I want to spend around $200 for the video card. Any model #'s you can sugguest? I'll be looking for a PCI-e hookup.

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03-29-2005 09:18 PM  13 years agoPost 2
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Do a search here for all PCI-E cards in the 190 - 250 price range:

http://www.newegg.com/app/manufact....talog=48&DEPA=1

Of these I would suggest the 6600GT running at 500/1000 compared to the others which are running 425/860. It costs $218 at NewEgg

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-121-178&depa=1

Although this is not from my personal experience, just from reading the specs.

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03-29-2005 09:23 PM  13 years agoPost 3
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Also, for about 50 dollars more (I know thats not cheap) you can get the ATI X800 which performs on par with the NVIDIA 6600. If you prefer ATI cards.

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03-29-2005 09:26 PM  13 years agoPost 4
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Heres onefor $184,i have 2 of these and they are very good.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewprodu...-127-147&DEPA=0

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03-29-2005 10:31 PM  13 years agoPost 5
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I'm looking for P4 3.4Ghz with 1GigRam, full tower and a 500 watt PS.

I did a search at Newegg this weekend for a new system and the video card had my head still spinning. I search with 256ram, PCI-Ex16. There are over 100 to choose from.

What chipset is the major question?

Motherboard was a little easlier. P5GDC Deluxe $148.00
CPU P4 550 3.4GHz $279.00
Memory DDR2 (2x512MB) - Corsair Value Select Kit. $131.67
Video Card approx $200
Didn't look yet got too depress.
Case /power supply $100-150.

What do you think of the above system? Any changes you would make please let me know.

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03-29-2005 10:49 PM  13 years agoPost 6
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Well if you want my opinion, and thats all it is..... I would change from the P4 to an AMD 3400 (64 bit). You'll save a little money doing that, and you can either put that extra money into your video card and get a 6800, or go with that 6600 that Douglas pointed out (which is a great deal) and use your extra money to buy the new 64bit Windows XP that is going to be released very soon.

Once again, this is just what I would do.

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03-29-2005 11:12 PM  13 years agoPost 7
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AMD 64 3400+
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-103-488&depa=1

About 50 dollars less than the P4 3.4.

These actually operate at about 2.4 GHz, but are comparable to the P4 3.4 GHz (which is why they are labelled 3400) in performance. Because they operate at a slower clock rate they also run much cooler.

Here's an article from Tomshardware rating the 3400 against the P4 3.2GHz (I don't know why they didn't run it against the 3.4 GHz, maybe it wasn't out yet).

http://www20.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040106/index.html

Remember that these results are on a 32-bit OS though, and 64 bit is where the AMD is really going to shine.

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03-30-2005 01:15 AM  13 years agoPost 8
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I was way off on my scores. In SLI mode with 2 6600GT cards,i get 5988 in 3D mark 2005,and 14453 in 2003. This is with the video cards and CPU overclocked a little. So for $400 worth of video cards i get 6800 ultra performance. G3 runs in SLI mode ,but G2 will not.

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03-30-2005 01:22 AM  13 years agoPost 9
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You can get an Nforce 4 Ultra motherboard ( PCI-E ) for $150. You can get a 3500 Athlon 64 for $290, and the 6600 GT video card for $185.
This motherboard also uses regular DDR memory instead of DDR 2.
You also want a 939 pin processor because it has Dual channel memory and is faster than the 754 pin processors with single channel.
I have both INTEL and AMD systems and the AMD would be better for what you want to do

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03-30-2005 01:48 AM  13 years agoPost 10
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bit64, Thanks for Tom's link.

Douglas,
I do also video editing and encoding them to DVD. As in Tom's review, it states that INTEL has an edge over AMD. What is your opinion on that?

This machine is gear towards video stuff and XTR is secondary. I'm not into gaming.
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03-30-2005 11:37 AM  13 years agoPost 11
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If you are going to get XTR you dont need much computer,If you do video editing memory and CPU would be more important. You can get a good 865 Intel motherboard for $100 and the fastest processor you can afford with 1 gig of ram. Video card is not that important in video editing so you could get a cheaper card and spend the money on ram and CPU.

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03-30-2005 01:18 PM  13 years agoPost 12
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I have the XTR and the stick response is a little slow. Graphic are ok with 15-20FPS. Currently I have a P3 - 1GHz with 512MB with a FX5200. I know I have an old computer. It has served me well and it's time to hand it over to my kids. I let the computer process my video at night so it didn't really bother me that much. I started with a DC30 Plus capture card with 4gig limit. That was a pain. Now I upgraded to a Digital camcorder and use it as a pass through. Night and day. Only problem is transfer is in real time. This video stuff is for home use. So I don't need to go into the deep high-end computer.

So please explain why Intel 865 chipset? I was looking at Tom's site and found out the 915 is getting replace 945. I was planning on getting the ASUS P5GDC, which has the 915. Technology is still moving ahead fast. Can't keep up with the latest stuff or always upgrading.

I wanted to spend about 1K for a new system w/o monitor or HD. I have a few large IDE ATA100 & ATA133 that I just brought a few months ago for video storage. Now I know I should have upgraded my system so I could use SATA drives. So, now I'm stuck with these drives. So what do you think on the computer parts I have listed on my earlier post?

BTW, SLI? Is that using two screens?

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03-30-2005 03:38 PM  13 years agoPost 13
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The 915,925 and 945 chipsets are for 775 pin Prescott processors,they are not very good and run hot . The Prescott of the same speed as a Northwood is also slower,You want a 478 pin Northwood processor here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-116-164&depa=1

Here is an execellant motherboard for that processor for $80.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-130-450&depa=0

This is motherboard is for an AGP video card,PCI-E would be no advantage over AGP.

The newer 775 pin motherboards are PCI-Express whic is not performance advantage. Spend the extra money on memory.

SATA is not any faster than what you have if they are 7200rpm drives.


SLI is 2 video cards being used at the same time,they can alternate frame rendering or can split the frame in half with 1card doing half and the other card doing the other half.

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03-30-2005 05:28 PM  13 years agoPost 14
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Thanks for the heads up.
NewEgg don't have it in stock. Tiger Direct has one but with no fan. I guess it's OEM and only 1 year warranty

Did a search at NewEgg for Northwood processor
OEM 3.06 for $245 next one up
3.4 Extreme Edition $ 985

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05-02-2005 06:44 PM  13 years agoPost 15
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Bit the bullet last month and got a new system for my XTR. I got to said you get what you paid for. System is nice and fast.

System as follows:
ASUS X700pro video card with 256ram, Intel CPUP4/3.2GHz w2M cache, ASUS P5GDC Deluxe MB, 1GB DDR2, Antec True550 PS and Thermaltake case.

Crazy people do crazy things like spending 1G to upgrade their computer for the XTR simulator. So they will hopefully will not crash the new EVO50 which was bought two months ago. Just started to build it Friday night. Sad to say only had about 2 hours on the sim.

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