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03-28-2005 06:04 PM  13 years agoPost 1
shamgar

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Hello

I need to know what heli is better. the raptor 90 or the hirobo freya 90. please give me your opinion about it -
i'm about to buy a new 90 class heli and i want to get this righ...

thanks

b.t.w


please write down whats are the pros and cons for each of the helis...

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03-28-2005 06:54 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Helinut29

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I need to know what heli is better
Get them both or toss a coin up in the air
They both fly extremely well when set-up properly so you really cant make a bad choice between these two machines.

Im back from the Dead :)

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03-28-2005 07:04 PM  13 years agoPost 3
Gricey

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Hi Shamgar, I see from your profile that you have a Raptor 60 already. A Raptor 90 would make sense from the place of sharing some spares. A Freya 90 would be if you wanted a change of breed, something that looks and flies a little different to all of the other Raptors at the field.

I started on TT then found Hirobo. Happy with both but I'm waving the Hirobo flag for now. Interesting to see what comes of the next generation choppers from TT.

cheers,

Gricey

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03-28-2005 07:44 PM  13 years agoPost 4
AlanR8

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Also look at the cost of spares.

Rappy spares tend to be very cheap

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03-28-2005 07:58 PM  13 years agoPost 5
jb_turner

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SEARCH.

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03-28-2005 07:59 PM  13 years agoPost 6
AlanR8

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TREE
Glad you said what I was THINKING!!!!!

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03-28-2005 08:14 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Eco8gator

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Hello

Pred Max 90. Easy to work on and cheap to fix if you have to.

Carlo
(PS: It flys really nice too)

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03-28-2005 08:27 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Kinger

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Could somebody please clue me in to what is so much harder to work on when it comes to the Freya vs. the Raptor? Seems to me they are both very similar when it comes to setup considering they both are mechanical mix heli's. The Freya does have push/pull on all the controls (except for collective on the standard), but it's not like it takes rocket science knowledge to get it set up correctly. The Freya also has a belt drive tail, how complex is that?

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03-28-2005 08:36 PM  13 years agoPost 9
MooneyDriver

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I have both and I'd have to say I am extremely impressed with Hirobo. I think you get a higher quality machine in the Freya 60 than the Raptor 60. Just my opinion... I don't think my SE is any easier to work on...

Hey man, why does my lipo get bigger every time I charge it?

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03-28-2005 11:55 PM  13 years agoPost 10
I3DM

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The Hirobo's are just higher quality, and the flying feel of them is second to none. you can try mine.

www.liorzahavi.com

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03-29-2005 12:20 AM  13 years agoPost 11
Helinut29

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I3DM
you can try mine.
Okay ship it to me I will ring the hell out it and let you know how it flies

Im back from the Dead :)

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03-29-2005 05:55 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Shagga

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No contest.
Latest Raptor is version 10.0 or more (many fixes over the years to correct original problems - breaking torque tubes, loose blade grips, main gears seizing up, canopies coming loose etc...). The orginal Raptor 60s were absolutely rubbish! Admittedly the latest Raptors are a little better.

The Freya is still version 1.0. It was created right first time. There has been no major fixes.

Which manufacturer would you trust?

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03-29-2005 07:00 PM  13 years agoPost 13
AlanR8

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Shagga
Which manufacturer would you trust?
A manufacturer that listens to its customers feedback will get my vote!

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03-30-2005 03:38 AM  13 years agoPost 14
T-Bell

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I think what AlanR8 is saying is Hirobo, since Thunder Tiger doesn't have Jeff Green.

Trex-600n, Rapter 50, Voyager-E, T-Rex,Tensor 4D bip.

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03-30-2005 04:04 AM  13 years agoPost 15
drdot

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My Two Cents..

TT has Jeff Fassbinder, and he works constantly with the mfg. to improve the Raptor line....

John.

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03-30-2005 04:16 AM  13 years agoPost 16
Scooterpilot

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Which One.
I have two Xspec, one Freya 90, one Freya 60, two Evo's, one Raptor SE, one Raptor 60, two raptor 50's.

I fly all of them. Which brand to I fly the most...Hirobo.

Hirobo, the overall quality is better then the Raptor. The Freya's track and hover much better. On the other side of the coin, the Raptor flip and tumble better.

My Freya 60 has 300 plus flights on it. It's had one hard auto (landing gear damage only) and one accident which was not a total by any means. It was back up in the air and flies great

The 90 SE I bought before Xmas of 2004. It took me six weeks to build it. I ordered up grades like the carbon ex dampners, all metal bird cage, had to drill all the t/r rod guides because they were too small, installing the elevator arms were a major PITA, had to locate/purchase spacers/washers for the collective arm. The building experience wasn't what I thought is should be for a $800.+ kit.

Xspec is a $800.00 + kit. I built the kit in a week. I didn't have to modify anything, or look for parts while building the kit. The overall quality is better. THe kit went right together just like my Standard Freya kits did.

Don't get me wrong, the 90 SE flies great, but it's not even close to being an out of the box stock model. The Xspec, is an out of the box stock model and it flies great.

The YS 91 Freya I have flies great right out of the box; however, I did upgrade it with derlin gears, metal washout, metal head block and aluminum clutch hub, and "T" collective upgrade. It is not stock but the stock one's fly great. I believe IM3D has a video of a stock 91 Freya and it is put though the paces and handles it well.

Overall, the prices on the Freya for repair is a bit more than on Raptors.

You have Jeff Green supporting you with Hirobo. You don't know what customer support is like until you meet Jeff or have a problem.

Ace or TT doesn't come close to Hirobo for customer support. If they provided the type of Customer support that Hirobo does, TT would more than likely dominate the market. Their management still haven't figured that one out.

Best of luck on what you choose. No matter what you choose you'll be flying and that what this hobby is all about.

Wish you the best.

Scooterpilot

Two G-4's & X50's YS60SR,Futaba 18SZ/12Z/14FG, ,Rail Blades Rep

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03-30-2005 04:18 AM  13 years agoPost 17
MR.700

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Best 90 Heli
If you want the best 90 size heli just get a Fury Extreme. For the money it flies like no other heli. By far my best heli, 3D with this one is just "Sweet" ..........But thats me.

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