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03-29-2005 12:49 AM  13 years agoPost 81
twinsticks

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Jason_Krause very well said

If anyone has any doughts about alans heli I have the exact heli and equipment and I will let him fly it at our funfly on labor day weekend at (Oc Bob,s heli gathering ) if he wants to.

When Alan was here in new jersey two years ago he flew his routine with my 46 powered raptor no one could beleive the under powered heli could do what Alan made it do.

Its the pilot boys!!

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03-29-2005 01:30 AM  13 years agoPost 82
NewHeli

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I agree Jason...very well said. I don't doubt the fact that he uses the same stuff we do... just he is very good, has quick reactions (and hands & eyes), and he has a very good setup. Practice is obviously the key.

Personally I would love to meet him or any other top-dog someday, but I wouldn't even consider going to him until I get a few years under my belt Only been flying helis a year, and well, I can see how slow the learning process is. Someday...someday...

On the note of collective management, I'm guessing they learned that with a 30? 30's need a lot of power, and don't have that much to begin with...this is what I plan on doing...bashing my 30 until I can do many 3d moves perfectly. Then I'll start on my Xcell 60...

Congrats to all of you that are so good! I enjoy every minute I see of your videos! Keep up the awesome flying!

NewHeli

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03-29-2005 01:32 AM  13 years agoPost 83
NewHeli

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Also, has Alan come to expect that when he is present at an event, strangers will come and ask if he'll fly their ships? Is this a common practice or is it for the select few that are on a similar par with him (of course a few lower ) ?

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Nathaniel Rice
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03-29-2005 02:41 AM  13 years agoPost 84
rockier

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You can ask but remember that a lot of pilots ask for a lot of his time and sometime there is not enough time for him to test every machine or answer every question. Alan Szabo Jr, Jason Kruase, and Curtis Youngblood like talking to you but after some time they like to take a rest to.

So all you can do is ask they will let you know if they have time.

Well said Jason.

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03-29-2005 11:07 AM  13 years agoPost 85
I3DM

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Jason,

no one said he has to prove sh%$ to anyone !! all we are looking for is the reson his machine flys so damn good ! if ts completely in his hands, and the machine is stock, then he should have no problem demoing someone else's machine, and that is what we want to know, not for him to prove anything, other then the fact that we just wasted several pages of webspace and some of our time to get to a conclusion known ahead, and we all should be flying instead of babbling.


Rockier, anyone stepped with an R90 yet ?

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03-29-2005 12:52 PM  13 years agoPost 86
dariof

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I3DM
if ts completely in his hands, and the machine is stock, then he should have no problem demoing someone else's machine, and that is what we want to know, not for him to prove anything,
Your statement is screaming that you don't believe Alan Jr. has this awesome talent; and his abilities stem partly from some "secret" equipment he is flying. It almost seems like you have some hidden agenda in casting doubt on this young man's credibility with your unfounded and rediculous statements.

As I have said before, I have watched him build helis, and watched him open boxes. He is a master at set-up, motor tuning and building knowledge, and those skills are only second to his flying abilities. I have been watching him fly for the past 2 1/2 years or so, and have watched him help many pilots at our field with set-up, tuning, flying, etc.

So many others have replied to this post and have more than stated there are no secrets here.....he is one of the top pilots in the world if not the top.

I3DM, I suppose when you are finished with this BS you are posting about Alan's equipment, you will then turn your attention to Michael Jordan. After all, it had to be the basketball he used (it was a different ball than what everyone else used) that made him so great...or maybe it was those shoes!!!

Best Regards, Dario

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03-29-2005 01:38 PM  13 years agoPost 87
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Okay, you win. I’ll come clean and let you know what Alan’s real secrets are.

Transmitter: His Airtronics Stylus is not a Stylus at all. It is a highly complex array of electronics stolen from an alien ship that crash landed in Area 51. The Szabo’s live fairly close to this UFO haven, and slipped in one evening for the sole purposes of rummaging through crashed space ships.

Helicopter: As you guessed, it is loaded with “special parts” built just for Alan. There is a tunnel under the Szabo’s home which goes directly to the Thunder Tiger factory in Taiwan. Many times each month, representatives from TT pop their heads through the tunnel and secretly give Alan his highly modified parts (UPS is too risky).

Blades: Highly Modified V-Blades. The inner core contains "Flubber," a material which helped Eddie Murphy float and bounce around in a movie he made.

Pipe: The Curtis Muscle Pipe is another cover-up. It is a very cleverly designed storage facility for Alan to hide his nuclear reactor which powers his motor.

Fuel: Although the can says Powermaster that is not what it is at all. It is simply a solution that makes smoke to mimic the actual smoke produced by heli fuel. This is accomplished by routing the solution through this little pump which is attached to the bottom of Alan’s nuclear C-Spec motor.

Batteries: Many believe the batteries are Duralites because they look just like them. They actually contain “corbomite,” a material that comes from a galaxy far, far away. Corbomite, an anti-gravity compound, works in conjunction with the “Flubber” inside the V-Blades, allowing Alan to hang those autos out there much longer than anyone else is able to do.

And then of course, Alan always wears his “Air Jordan’s” They not only helped Michael Jordan seamlessly fly to the basket, but they help Alan fly his helis.


Best Regards, Dario

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03-29-2005 03:37 PM  13 years agoPost 88
Ed Moore

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"I personally believe you have some hidden agenda"

That's just being rediculous! Remember these are just toy helicopters! Remember there is a real world out there.....

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03-29-2005 03:48 PM  13 years agoPost 89
I3DM

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Dario, holy sh%$ dude, a personal agenda against Alan ? i LOVE his vids like the next guy, and i would love to meet him in person one day, damn dude, i adore the kid ! (like everyone)..

where do you guys come up with this cr*p ? all i wanted to see is another helicopter perform those rainbows in such a powerful manner, because i have never seen any others perform like that, that is it.

and guess why i wana know the "trick" ? cause maybe someday i can get to do a similar manuver myself !

Talk about a hostile crowd...

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03-29-2005 04:26 PM  13 years agoPost 90
Gary

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I3DM,

Why don't you send him one then? Like Jason and others have already said, it's talent. You can only do so much "tweaking" to these things anyway. I took my 90SE to Curtis' school in the first week in March and he did things with my set up that I didn't know it would do. He didn't change anything. The motor sounded better with Curtis flying it and he handed it back to me and said it seemed fine to him. When you burn as much fuel as these guys do it tends to change your flying a lot. I wouldn't mind Alan flying one of my 90SE's at all but the only thing it would do is show that it's him and not some majic engine or set up secret.

"Who said obsession was a bad thing"

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03-29-2005 05:22 PM  13 years agoPost 91
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I3DM ,
I have not got anyone to step up and let Alan tweak there Raptor 90 with a OS CSpec 91.

You know just like Jason said he would be glad to trade someone his old motor for a new one.

It is not the motor or anything special.

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03-29-2005 06:03 PM  13 years agoPost 92
DOKEY

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Hi Jason or anyone else that may know the answer:-

What are the numbers/codes that seem to be present on the Cspec engine lugs, which most of the top end, sponsored pilots have ??

Not trying to create or start an argument just curiosity more than anything.

Thanks,

Ryan.

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03-29-2005 06:18 PM  13 years agoPost 93
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The inner core contains "Flubber," a material which helped Eddie Murphy float and bounce around in a movie he made.
Is was Robin Williams wasn't it?

I want flubber in my blades so they bounce instead of break.

How about mixing a little flubber in place of the nitro, that would help your rainbows, I3DM.

Dokey, maybe that's the batch number of the flubber we are talking about?

Andy

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03-29-2005 06:34 PM  13 years agoPost 94
stevengerrard

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he is just that Good

although my two 90 SE's are flying awsome...

using standard C-specs no pump and the power is excellent with a MP 2,,,,,,,,, 8.27 ratio ........MA REVMAX ...and some Coolpower 30%.......


once you get the engines set they have loads of power waiting to be used CORECTLY..............

in my opinion my helis and engines respond very similar to what Alans does in the vids i have seen....

Regards

Steven Gerrard

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03-29-2005 09:04 PM  13 years agoPost 95
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DOKEY
As I said. The number that was on the side of the motors was the very first engines. The engines was used for testing. A number of pilots got these engine to testing so when you got them there would be no problems with them.

If you watch Alan and Curtis fly in some of the videos. They where using the test engine and you can see that Alan's engine seem to have more power then Curtis's. But they where the same engine.


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03-30-2005 03:39 AM  13 years agoPost 96
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dariof: Alan's real secrets
That's some funny sh*#!!javascript:smilie('')
javascript:smilie('')

heli prose

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03-30-2005 08:29 AM  13 years agoPost 97
Ace Hobby

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Alan Raptor 90 SE
Having flown Alan's machine at the Phoenix event I'd have to say that what you’re all hoping for is some magic illusion. The illusion is in your head in that his machine was custom made to fulfill his flying abilities. It is in fact his ability that makes the Machine do what it does. Having flown his bird I know that it is not a set up that is jerky or extremely responsive it is smoother than anyone would imagine. Smooth as in FAI smooth, it is those hands of his that move D#@m fast that make the machine do what it does. Combine that with skill and timing that is what makes his machine perform as well as it does. Again the illusion is that you can spend and spend to gain the ability but it all boils down to one thing skill. I let him fly my Raptor 90SE and Standard, it flew or should I say he flew it just like he fly’s his machine. I wish I could say that it was just the machine, but it’s not its pure skill. So yes I have seen my machine fly as well as Alan’s machine, it just that Alan has to be flying it!!!!

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03-30-2005 08:57 AM  13 years agoPost 98
Colin D.

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This whole thread is soooo lame..... what I mean is, Lior, you are seriously lame. Even JK chimed in -- surely he has better things to do, like practice to stay ahead of the rest of us, which he is, along with Alan and many others -- guys like them don't lay awake at night wondering what secrets the pro's have that they won't share with anybody -- they go to the field and burn fuel. Go buy some fuel Lior... and drink it.

CD

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