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07-21-2002 04:51 PM  16 years agoPost 1
Buzzin Brian

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OK so I changed my plan to get the Agusta. I bought a Vario Tiger with a Koblold for the mechanics. Don't worry I got a GOOD deal on it. So now I have a few questions about it. It comes with a cockpit kit for it, and since I have yet to receive it I was wondering if the kit will be for both cockpits. Those that know what bird I am talking about, will know what I mean about both cockpits. I plan on going with a 4 bladed head on it in the future. So should I set it up as 4 servo 90 degree CCPM? Or just leave it a 120 degree CCPM? Which is what it is now. It has a Rossi 11.5 in it that has about a half a gallon of fuel through it. As I understand it, it takes quite a bit of running in before the Rossi's are broken in. Luckily I will be getting the mechanics in pod and boom form. So I can break it in before I put it in the fuse. So how much fuel does it usually take to break in a Rossi. Thats enough for now. More later I am sure.

Thanks in advance.

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07-21-2002 08:49 PM  16 years agoPost 2
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The cockpit set comes with a back "Dash section" to help hide the engine. There is also a weapons set, and a scale fittings set for the heli if you are interested. You also need the special header for the rossi engine, in case one was not installed on the mechanics. The radio you have will determine what setup you do for CCPM. The other couple of items you are going to need if you did not get them, extended mainshaft, and 40 degree gearbox for the rear. The Rossi takes several gallons to break in, but to tell you the truth, i am experimenting with a new one now, with a new way of breaking it in, and its running really well after 4 tanks of fuel. Any questions, just ask.
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07-21-2002 09:09 PM  16 years agoPost 3
Moore

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Joe pretty much answered all of your questions but WATCH OUT for RF on the Kobold. The problem comes from the slotted output shaft driving the tail . To solve the problem change it to a claw coupling, you will need to order a 49/15 a very wise $30 upgrade.

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07-21-2002 09:10 PM  16 years agoPost 4
Buzzin Brian

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Actually it did come with the weapons set, and the 40 degree tail gear box. Not the aerial set though, although I do intend on getting it. It has a pipe on it, but I was told that the one that is on the bird will not fit in the fuse. So I am going to be needing that. So you are saying that the cockpit kit isn't things like seats, and controll pannel? Just plastic plates? This is a list of all I got with the fuse. The heli is about 4 months old, and has has about a half a gallon of fuel through it. That includes EVERYTHING in it. Including the servos. All was purchased at the same time.

Vario Kobold
Rossi 11.5 with pipe
4 x 9202 servos
revolution canopy for the Kobold
Glass main blades
cockpit kit (new)
Weapons kit (new)
Main shaft for miltibladed head (new)
40 degree tail gear box (new)
Vario Tiger fuse (new)
Vario catologue (slightly looked at)

I paid $800.00 for the whole lot shipped to my door. And I know that all of the time claimed on the bird is acurate. The guy I got it from flies with a good freind of mine. So what do you think? Good deal or what? Also how well does the Kobold fit in this fuse? Oh and I fly with a JR 8103.

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Brian

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07-21-2002 10:39 PM  16 years agoPost 5
Moore

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You got a good deal
The raw fuse retails for $460 and the Kobold for $530 and the engine set another $335 and you got lots and lots of other cool stuff..........a little very simple math says YOU GOT A GOOD DEAL.

Seats and control panels are in the cockpit kit. Seat belts & joysticks are not. The pilot is also sold seperately. here is a LINK to the Tiger.

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07-22-2002 12:04 AM  16 years agoPost 6
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He will not have to worry about RF noise in the fuse since he is going to have to change the output shaft to get it into the fuse to use the torque tube. Seats do not come in the cockpit set for the Tiger, since there is no place to put them. You get a bottom plate, on top of which two dashboards sit, and you cut a pilot at the high chest point to put him in place in the front. On the back section, you have a dash, and two pieces of plastic which fill in the sides of the cockpit to hide the motor, which is right there. You need the header and muffler for the fuse installation. The extra scale pack allows the console window glass to be hinged to open like the real Tigre.
Joe

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07-22-2002 03:37 AM  16 years agoPost 7
Buzzin Brian

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Thanks for the imfo thus far guys. It has answered a few questions I have had. But there are more. What do you mean about the torque tube? Do I have to convert the heli to a tube drive tail? Because I thought the Kobold was a wire drive tail. Just curriouse. Also the fuse I bought does have the landing gear on it, I have seen pics of it. So is there two different types? The ones that are on it look the same as the ones in the pics on Vario USA, except they are all silver. So what are they if anyone knows? And this bussiness about cutting the pilot in half. What is that? I have to order a figure just to cut it up? That kind of sucks.

Anyway, thanks so far guys.

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07-22-2002 03:39 AM  16 years agoPost 8
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Pretty simple actually. I have installed 3 head shims which measure .3mm each, put in a Enya 3 and run 15% nitro. No stumble through the mid range, no onboard glow, and the thing is really smooth at 1500 at the head on the second tank. I will set it down and let it idle for a minute, and there is only the slightest load up, but then spools right up to the head speed. It was 90 here today, and i got 4 tanks through it no problem
Joe

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07-22-2002 03:56 AM  16 years agoPost 9
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The fuse kit has a torque tube drive, which is in the kit, or should have been. The Kobold is a wire drive heli, so the output shaft on the front gearbox will have to be changed to install it in the fuselage. You cannot really use the full pilot in the front cockpit. When you see how it is designed, you will see what i mean. All the Tigres have the same landing gear which is articulated.
Joe

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07-22-2002 04:05 AM  16 years agoPost 10
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Thanks Joe!

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07-22-2002 05:00 AM  16 years agoPost 11
Buzzin Brian

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I just comfirmed with the guy that the tube drive is coming with the kit. He said none of it has even been put together. And it is still in the packages. He said he plans on sending it Monday. The shipping time from where he is, is 1 day, so I should have it on Tuesday. I will let you guys know what it looks like. From what i understand it is HUGE!

I can wait!!!!!!!!!!!

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