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07-21-2002 05:53 AM  16 years agoPost 1
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Well first off I would like to once again take my hats off to Helicopter World for doing EXACTLY what they said they would do.

I got an email from them with the tracking numbers and exactly when they said I would get it, I did get it.

IT came packed very well and nothing I ordered was backordered or missing. I have not inspected the kit yet, so I can't tell you if anything is missing from the kit yet???

When I opened the box, I noticed that everything was packed up nicely in 3 big boxes. And in each box was a sealed bag with a number on it. 1-7 numbers!!! VERY nice and organized.

JUST flipping through the instruction book, I've noticed that there are a lot of pictures, this I like. AGAIN, beyond flipping, I can't tell you anything else.

Here a picture of what I got.

Any questions???

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Kirk Voclain
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07-21-2002 05:56 AM  16 years agoPost 2
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By the way.....
I've got the OS 50, and I bought a crash kit that came with some woody blades. I plan to use the woodies for the first few flights, then I'll put the Figer Glass one's that came with it on.

Servos? S9202's and a 9253 on the tail with the 502 gyro.

Kirk

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07-21-2002 05:59 AM  16 years agoPost 3
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The Falcon SE II-- Finished Page 4
OK, the project has begun!! I started by reading all the TIPS and Tricks that the Mfg. puts at the beginning of the instruction book.

I FOUND some of the tips basic, but some of them were very Handy, and GREAT SUGGESTIONS!! So I strongly suggest you read them if you build this kit.

AS I opened bag No. 1, I noticed that there were bags within bags, and the within those bags were more bags.

This seemed strange to me until I started reading the instructions. I noticed that if you opened a plastic bag, and pulled out a part, all of the parts that pertained to that area of the instructions were inside separate bags.

I found this to be EXTREMELY helpful!! I did not have parts all over the place wondering, "...is this a 3x7 ball bearing???" or "is this a 3x6 screw??" ETC.

With that in mind, I STRONGLY suggest you purchase a set of calipers. MEASURING those tine bearing to make sure you have the correct one sure was easier with a set of calipers.

Next I found the instructions on page 4 very easy to follow, and also well written.

The only thing that seams a little strange is the the instructions are for both the Falcon SE II and the HAWK SE II. Thus you will notice on the institution picture that I attached, there are some instructions for both.

I'm sure the Mfg. does this because it saves them time and trouble.

ONE Error I found (highlighted) is that the bearing cup does not have to be secured into the offset plate. This item is all one METAL part now (SEE ACTUAL PHOTO ATTACHED). YOU still have to insert the bearing, but the cup and the plate are all in one.

NOW, this again may be different for the HAWK??? But then again, I'm building the Falcon.

Enjoy the pics.

Yours,

Kirk Voclain
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07-21-2002 06:01 AM  16 years agoPost 4
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Falcon 50 SE II REPORT -- Page 5 -- Main Grip, Feathering Spindle.
OK, on with the project!!!

I've never built an RC Helicopter before, an besides the Falcon, the only other helicopter I've ever owned was a NEXUS.

WELL the FALCON is NO NEXUS!! I am continually impressed with the precision of this helicopter. IF there is a moving part, there is a bearing on it helping it to move more smoothly.

I have a gram scale and I decided that I would weigh everything that pertains to the rotary head, esp. were there are two things like Blade Grips. The Main Blade Grips weighed in at precisely 20.8 grams each. This impressed me that they were EXACTLY the same. I was prepared to have to do some shaving to get them to weigh the same, but I did not.

As far as errors on Page 5, there were only 2 minor errors. The 8x13mm washer was actually a 9x13mm washer (no big deal). And the instruction book referred me to page 30 when actually I should have been referred to page 26.

The only problem I ran into is highlighted with RED ARROWS (see photo). When I installed the 3x16 Socket Cap Screw into the Bell Mixer Arm and into the Blade Grips, the Socked Screw came out the back of the Blade grip a little.

When I installed the Blade grips onto the Feathering Spindle, the Cap Screw that was sticking out caused a little binding at the extreme top and bottom ends of movements.

So to solve this problem, I used my Drimel Tool to grind down the Cap Screws till they were flush with the back end of the Brade Grips. I then re-checked the weight of each Blade Grip Assembly and they were still perfectly even and the same.

Also, I was most impressed with the fact that when it came time for me to install the Thrust Bearings into the Blade Grips, I noticed that they were tied together with a little string. This saved me from wondering, "...which way does the Thrust Bearing face?" And I'm sure it saved me from some excessive wear because of possible installing it wrong.

Any questions???

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Kirk Voclain
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07-21-2002 06:04 AM  16 years agoPost 5
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Falcon 50 SE II REPORT -- Page 6 -- Flybar and Control Arm
MAN is this fun!!!!

The only error on page 6 was again I was referred to page 30 when actually I should have been refered to page 26 (again, no big deal).

I found the instruction in STEP 5 a little hard to understand. I completed the step, but only after reading it several times over and over and over. This MOST PROBABLE was because it was about 12 AM at the time, but I still found it a little difficult.

But the difficulty of that step was greatly rewarded by the next step.

I weighed the fly bar paddles and weights. The paddles were 21.6 grams each, and the weights were 6.7 grams. ONCE again, they matched each other perfectly.

(SEE PHOTO) I was also pleased to find a NOTCH in the fly bar itself (see red arrows). This notch is where the 3x3 set Screw comes down. The notch will prevent the fly bar from twisting. Another nice feature that the Nexus did not have.

Well, now my rotary head is complete. I showed it to my wife and she was not impressed. She pretended to be impressed, but I knew better!!! On the other hand, I am very impressed.

Any Questions before I go into the next steps???

Yours,

Kirk Voclain
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07-21-2002 06:07 AM  16 years agoPost 6
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Falcon 50 SE II REPORT -- Page 7 -- Swash Plate
The Swash Plate not only appears to be a very functional device, IT truly is a work of art (see Photo).

I'm again impressed with all the metal parts on this kit. The Ball links for example are wonderful. There is a slight error in the opening pages of the instructions book about the ball links.

IT says: "...when tightening the steel ball, use an open ended metric 5 wrench which will match the hex exactly and not damage the ball."

Well the ball now use a 2mm hex key in the top, not the 5mm wrench.

NO big deal of course. I figured it out right away!! And I prefer the style of the ball links with the hex key to the ones with the 5mm socket. Less chance for error.

Any questions???

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Kirk Voclain
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07-21-2002 06:16 AM  16 years agoPost 7
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Falcon 50 SE II REPORT -- Page 8-11 -- Main Gear, Tail Gear, Counter Gear.
If you would like to see the pages of the instruction book for this section, go to:


http://centuryheli.com/manuals/hawk...fal_step7_9.pdf http://centuryheli.com/manuals/hawk..._step10_11A.pdf http://centuryheli.com/manuals/hawk..._step11B_12.pdf http://centuryheli.com/manuals/hawk...l_step15_16.pdf

To begin, I'm having so much fun I could bust!!

I found no error on any of these pages. But in the picture on page 11, it shows the 14x19 Washer going on top of the 10x19 Ball Bearing. But in the instructions, it says to put the Washer under the Ball Bearing???

At first I chose to follow the instruction and not the picture because it made more since for the washer to be between the Mast Stopper and the frame than it did for it to be on top of the Bearing. I thought to myself that if it sat on top of the bearing, it would then NOT fit in the frame, so the Washer would just be sitting up there loose.

But then I figured it out that the washer needed to be on top or on the bottome of the washer, but it needed to be inside the little slot with the bearing causing the bearing to be seated properly. (The picture was taken before I figured all this out, so ignore where the bearing is in this picture) PLUS, once I figured it out, I found the moving parts were so much smoother. MORE like it was supposed to be from the beginning.

Everything tracks nicely, and is smooth. Again I'm impressed at the number of Bearing in this kit. I've said it before, but it should be said again, if it moves, there is a bearing on it to make it move more smoothly.

EVEN my wife was impressed at this stage. She took the side frame from me and started turning the Counter gear and she said, "...NOW this impresses me!!!"

MY little girl (8 years old) only said, "...that's COOL daddy!!"

I do find at this point that the Starter Shaft is binding. I put some oil on it like it suggested, but I'm assuming it is binding because the other half of the frame is not installed yet. I'm hoping the starter shaft will move up and down more freely when the other half is installed.

When putting together the Counter Assembly, the Drive Shaft has a notch in it where the Drive Gear's Hex Key should sit. HOWEVER, when properly spaced, the hex key does not seat exactly in the notch. IT is secure, and it is tight, but I found the spacing of the notch to be a little off.

THUS once again, I took my dremal tool and made the NOTCH a little longer so that the gear's Hex Ked could seat properly into a notch.

Well that's about it. ANY questions????

Yours,

Kirk Voclain
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07-21-2002 06:19 AM  16 years agoPost 8
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Falcon 50 SE II REPORT-- The Slipper Unit
OK, I've tightened this "Slipper" Unit 3 times and every time it still seams to "SLIP"!!

If I'm understanding the principle correctly, the "Slipper" Unit will keep the tail rotor spinning on an Auto Rotation. I understand that it binds the Main Gear using a rubber O ring.

But what I don't understand is that the instructions say to GREASE that O ring. SO I did and now it "SLIPS", it does not bind.

I smashed the O ring like the instructions said, but it just does not make since to me.

So I got some Quik Grips from Lowes and tighten down on the slipper unit and then tightend the set keys. NOW it still slips, but not nearly like it was before. IT'S more like it's supposed to be.

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Kirk Voclain

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07-21-2002 06:22 AM  16 years agoPost 9
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Falcon 50 SE II REPORT -- Page 12-13 -- Side Frames, Eleron, Collective Assembly
There are Bearing for the collective arm to ride on. At this point, I'm not sure how all of this is going to come together. IT looks rather confusing to me at this point. MAINLY because the NEXUS is so simple in it's design. I do find it nice that everything is tight and that when I turn the Main Gear everything is smooth.

Again, no errors at this point in the instructions. Everything is coming together nicely.

The bearings all seated nicely in the side frames when I put the 2 halves together.

See Photo.

Any questions???

Yours,

Kirk Voclain
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07-21-2002 06:25 AM  16 years agoPost 10
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MISHAP ----------- OUCH.....
When I moved on to the next step, I had trouble understanding the instructions on pages 14 & 15. I'll be posting that as soon as I get in my NEW parts!!!

YEP, you guessed it, I messed up some parts!!!

When I started working on the lower frame, the instructions are confusing!!! IT just does not seem LOGICAL to do it the way the instructions say?? (I'll be posting a copy of that page when I get the new parts in and finish the page).

PLUS, the instruction say to take the RIGHT side (R), I would assume the (R) means there is a R stamped somewhere on the Right side frame??? But there isn't!! WELL not that I could find???

So I picked up what I though was the Right side and started working on it. WELL, it was not the Right side, it was the LEFT side and when it came to putting in the Fuel Tank, I forced it and as a result, BUSTED a hole in the tank.

So I called Helicopter World and ordered a new Tank. IT should be in soon (along with my servos!!)
See Photo.

Any Questions???

Yours,

Kirk Voclain

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07-21-2002 06:32 AM  16 years agoPost 11
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Falcon 50 SE II REPORT -- Page 14-15 -- Engine, Fuel Tank, & Lower Frame
OK, I got my tank in, and I finally got the lower frame finished.

At first I was upset that I had ripped a hole in my gas tank and had to order another one, but now that I look back on the situation, it was the best thing that happened. WHY??? WELL because it gave me time to view where I was in this project, and think about some of the mistakes I had made, and fix them.

OK, page 14 was a breeze!! Basically all I did was assemble the fan, and then stick it on.

The instruction and the pictures on page 14 clearly show me removing everything from the front of the engine except for the washer that rides over the bearing. But when I went to tighten down the fan assembly, it stopped where the engine shaft widens. But it did not take me long to figure out that it stopped only because it's such a great fit.

BEING I had to order another fuel tank, I went ahead and ordered the optional CN2154 Machined Throttle Extension. Ohhhhh it's pretty!!!

Here's the link to page 14: CLICK HERE

There were no errors, or mistakes on this page.

OK on to page 15 which is where I ran into trouble the last time. THIS time I said to myself: "...SELF (that's what I call myself), DON'T force anything!!"

I'm a step one, step two, step three kind of guy!! And on page 15, this is where I ran into trouble. The instructions tell you to do a whole bunch of things, then it mentions to install the muffler, then the tank and based upon the pictures, I figured I was supposed to do all this as one big step.

For example: IT tells me to attache the Right lower side to the upper frame, attach the engine shroud, and then attach the engine to the right side. All the while telling me to use thread lock. WELL if you do that, then the fuel tank doesn't fit, so you have to take the engine off to get the fuel tank in. Once you do that, it then tell you to attach the muffler. But to get the muffler screws into the engine, you once again have to take the engine off of the lower side frame.

Anyway, I did get it all together, it took some patience, but I got it. OH, that ENGINE SHROUD is a real bear to get on too. TAKE your time and don't force it, but at the same time you will need to put a little pressure on it.

The only thing missing from the kit so far were 4 M3x7 washers that I am suppose to use to attach the lower frame to the upper frame. It was no big deal, I just went to Lowe's and for .97 cents I got 6!!! That left me 2 extra!! Oh by the way, they are for sale so if you want to make me an offer I'm selling the 2 washers for only .10 cents a piece, but don't forget to add the shipping cost

MOST probably, I didn't even need those washers. The reason is because the lower frame is metal. So the washers serve no real prupose. Century probably took them out, but just forgot to fix the insturction. But I put some on there anyway.

Any Questions????

Yours,

Kirk Voclain
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07-21-2002 06:35 AM  16 years agoPost 12
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Falcon 50 SE II REPORT -- Page 16-18--Servos, Landing Gear, Rotor Head.
Finally, FINALLY!! This thing is starting to look more and more like a helicopter!!!

The next few pages were a breeze!! EASY, EASY, EASY!!! I almost let my little girl do it for me (ALMOST).

The only thing that was a little strange is that there were NO instruction to tell me to put together the Anti-rotation Bar, JUST A PICTURE.

So, I has taken me a while, but I'm starting to learn you have to LOOK AT THE PICTURES BEFORE YOU READ!!! It's no big deal, just that I'm used to doing it the other way.

NEXT comes the tail rotor!!!

I'm moving right along. But this weekend, I need to get some flying in, SO it's looking like I'm not going to be making another post till Monday.

Happy flying this weekend.

I will be checking my email, so if you have any questions or comments, PLEASE POST THEM!!!!

ONE MORE THING, I'm starting to understand the concept of "NO SLOP" now that the Swash Plate and Wash OUT is in place. When you TWIST on the Swash Plate, it doesn't move, it's solid as a rock!!!! AGAIN, unlike the NEXUS that moves when you breath heavy on it.

Any Questions???

Yours,

Kirk Voclain
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07-21-2002 02:39 PM  16 years agoPost 13
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Wow! Nice picture supplement! Don't stop! Hope your flying went well today. Keep up the good work. Best, Dave

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07-21-2002 02:44 PM  16 years agoPost 14
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DMShanks.....
....Dave......

Did I mention I'm a professional Photographer and this is my slow time of year??? MORE pixs of the tail rotor assembly to come Monday.

Kirk

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07-21-2002 04:14 PM  16 years agoPost 15
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Nice job. I added a "[ BREAK ]" to your wider photos. You have raised the standard for kit reviews.

Thanks
Mark

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07-21-2002 05:26 PM  16 years agoPost 16
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No kidding, good job Kirk. Sure is awesome to see what a professional can do with a kit review. Great pictures.

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07-21-2002 05:59 PM  16 years agoPost 17
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Fantastic Job...
Howdy!!!
You should think about submitting your building review, and future ones, to the magazines for publishing.. I got real busy this last week and was'nt able to work on my new Falcon 50, but your excellent review has inspired me to slack off the rest of the day and work on it.. I do have a question... Does it seem to you that the clutch liner is ALLREADY glued in???? I pushed and pulled on it and tried to poke and X-acto knife GENTLY between the liner and bell and could not, so I am assuming it is already done... What a deal!! I really hate gluing in liners.... Keep up the good work.. !!!!!
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07-21-2002 07:06 PM  16 years agoPost 18
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Mark.....
.....Well thank!!! Least I could do for such a GREAT site.

I'll make sure in the future to add that BREAK code in to make it look nicer. Sorry did not know about that???

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Glad to see I've inspired you Inspector Fuzz (Jeff)!!

And I am thinking about submitting to to some of the magazines!! INFACT EVERYONE here could do me a favor!!

Why not send an email to Helicopter World, Ricks, Century, Ace Raptor, Hirobo, JR, Miniture Air, etc and tell them about my article!! MAYBE they would like for me to do an article on one of there ships too!!

NOW IS THE time being it's my slow time of year. IN a few months I get so busy I don't even have time to fly!!! SO YOU CAN imagaine how busy that is.

Yours,

Kirk Voclain

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07-21-2002 08:17 PM  16 years agoPost 19
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Archive
Is there a way to permanently archive some of this stuff?

I think this article trule needs to be permanently available to the likes of the google newsgroup archives and such.

Jimmy

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07-21-2002 08:19 PM  16 years agoPost 20
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Thanks Jimmy....
...I'll take that as a complement.

Yours,

Kirk Voclain

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