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07-21-2002 12:18 AM  16 years agoPost 41
Gary Jenkins

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Sceadu 50

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07-21-2002 04:27 AM  16 years agoPost 42
JolleyRoger

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Sceadu 50

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07-21-2002 08:54 AM  16 years agoPost 43
Ken B

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Sceadu's have problems, just ones put together incorrectly.
HOW TRUE! I can't tell you how many times I have heard "my Heli is junk, which one should I get to replace it". Then I get my hands on it and I can have it humming smooth in time. Granted some heli's are junk, but that's not the path I'm taking.

I wish people took time to assemble these things right. But I'm glad I can help the guys out and teach them when they need to learn there errors.

BTW, even a raptor can be smooth

Ken B

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07-21-2002 01:40 PM  16 years agoPost 44
Rotor

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Looks like the Rappy is the winner of this poll!!
ps..Sorry Seneca hehehehe..

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07-21-2002 02:04 PM  16 years agoPost 45
Dazzler

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I have a Venture, and a Freya. But if I was looking at a 50 size ship, which I was at one point, I would with a doubt, go with the Sceadu 50. My 2nd choice would be the JR Voyager, thats it, after that there would be no choices left for me. Good luck, Daz...

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07-21-2002 02:07 PM  16 years agoPost 46
Waldo

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The Raptor may have won this poll such as it is, but it really does not mean much, I wouldn't vote simply because of the way it was worded.

Raptor 50 with all the metal stuff

Fury 50

Voyager 50

If I were choosing I would go with the Raptor 50 WITHOUT! all the metal stuff ( this option was not available ) that's what I fly and it does just great. Now as far as the best I would have to say the Fury 50 is the best quality machine, and the Sceadu is probably the best flying machine ( and is not listed in the poll ). But for all around low cost fun I still don't think you can beat the Raptor 30, 50 and 60.

[b]Bill[/b]

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07-21-2002 02:39 PM  16 years agoPost 47
ycwoon

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Sceadu 50
All in Taiwan vote for SCEADU 50. I do also own a Raptor. Sceadu is still better. Hands off hovering...

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07-21-2002 07:58 PM  16 years agoPost 48
Rotor

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SENECA, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting till the votes get in aren't you? Wait a minute, aren't you from the state that had alittle bit of trouble with the voting? heheheh............

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07-21-2002 08:14 PM  16 years agoPost 49
ncarbon

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The Sceadu is the ONE.....
for me at least........fun to fly, tracks great and parts are easy to get ahold of, when you need them. I flew my ConcptVR for a year and half and really liked it, parts where too far out and the shiny bits were tough to get ahold of. The Sceadu has parts everywhere and some neat shiny bits to make me feel better once in awhile. Heliproz is next day for me!!! I was convinced with Hirobo after my buddy Phil has flown a year with out any issues except fuel line. They really last and perform too boot. Well laid out, easy to work on, easy to assemble and lots of people to help with pointers and suggestions on the web.....there is support every where........hard to beat...


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07-21-2002 09:52 PM  16 years agoPost 50
Rotor

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How many of you voted for a particular heli only because it's the one you fly?

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly

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07-21-2002 09:53 PM  16 years agoPost 51
Rotor

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Me.....

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07-22-2002 01:19 AM  16 years agoPost 52
smile

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Question for Concept50VR, or anyone else who has flown both. How do the Sceadu and VR compare. I like my VR in that it is an over powered rocket, quick, hi headspeed makes it really jump when asked to, like flipping to inverted there's no sag or "catching up", it's just there. It's also not very precise or will designed. Will
i be happy w/ a Sceadu?

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07-22-2002 02:48 AM  16 years agoPost 53
Raj Patel

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Flutter- in response to topic on previous page
This is a tad bit long, but I think it's beneficial for the newbies and others who care. I have posted on this before, but feel it's important to repost once in a while, especially for the new members, etc.

I have been tinkering with Raptors since they came out, and every one I have owned has fluttered, so I was on a mission to find out why. I have spent alot of time trying to figure it out with the help of a friend who is a machinist.

Aside from the usual items which can cause flutter on any helicopter which include, 1) bad thrust bearings, 2) bad radial bearings, 3) AFT chord c.g. blades, etc, the other item which is causing flutter on most raptors which have the above listed parts in good working order is:

4) CROOKED HEAD BLOCKS!

I have done all the other mods, trying to alleviate the problem, but was only successful in delaying the onset of flutter. Mods include, 0 delta, negative delta, metal blade grips, tightening all bushings, bearings, so there was no play, aluminum pitch rocker, etc, etc. Some blades will also flutter sooner than other brands. I have tried lots of different brands, composite and wood.

If you look at your static tracking, (height of each blade tip) , while the heli is on the bench, you will know if your head block is crooked or not. Just measure the height of each blade tip using your transmitters antenna. (assuming your blades are not warped)

Due to variations in molding, some headblocks are more "crooked" than others. We have found the headblocks "crooked" in more than one axis as well. How crooked your head block is will probably determine whether your blades will flutter or not.

Our test was to line bore, ream and steel sleeve the stock head blocks. A "jig" was made to hold the plastic headblock perfectly in a milling machine. The test was successful. After the "fix", both blades had perfect static tracking, and with identical pushrod lengths , the blades had perfect dynamic tracking in flight, no adjust necessary.

Have you ever wondered why your (dynamic) tracking in flight was way off , when you just checked the pitch and length of the pushrods while at the bench. If you have a "crooked" head block, you will have to make the pushrods unequal in length to compensate, and while it will track at some rpm's , at higher rpm's , or some pitch settings, it may not and that's when the blades "flutter". It is very hard on your control system and servos!

For those of you with other brands that are experiencing flutter, check the static tracking and see for yourselves. For those of you who think static tracking is not important, IT IS!

I know most people are not going to have the tools or a machine shop to fix a $9 headblock so the only option is to buy a metal head block. I have bought several and they worked very well (no flutter). Static tracking was off about 1/16 ", not enough to cause flutter.

At the moment , I think Quick UK (not Quick World Wide), has the best metal headblock on the market. I bought a couple from Heli-hut and they were also good, but I would recommend the Quick UK block. I have not had very good luck with Quick World Wide products at all!

Sorry for the long post, hope it was of help to at least one person :+)

Raj

R. Patel, International Captain, ConocoPhillips

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07-22-2002 11:49 AM  16 years agoPost 54
Ken B

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Rotor,

I Fly, a Sceadu, Freya and Fury. I have owned a Shuttle, Raptor as well.

I still vote Sceadu.

Ken B

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07-22-2002 01:22 PM  16 years agoPost 55
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vote
Raptor 50, without any upgrades.

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