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07-19-2002 12:02 AM  16 years agoPost 1
gwallace1

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Ok I have finally accepted (and learned) the fact that E-bay is no place for a newbie to start in the r/c helo business. In one week I am ordering a Kyosho Caliber 30 arf w/ os32 and a set of glass blades. I am also ordering an Airtronics RD6000 Super setup with 94322 servos and gy240 gyro. I am also getting a helimax pitch gauge and 6mm hex adapter. (This is my first setup, first helo, FIRST TIME!!! So does anyone have any advice on this helo or radio that would be helpful. I'm not rich but I think this is a good start for under $800 bucks. Opinions on any of my choices? Advice? Cheap Shots ???...P.S. I already have a field kit with starter, elec fuel pump, etc. that was given to me by a friend.

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07-19-2002 12:16 AM  16 years agoPost 2
MaxC

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Dont get glass blades for your first heli, too expensive to crash with. Use cheap woodies. Since you wont be getting glass blades, for only a little more $$ you can get the GY401 w/ 9253. Oh and if you dont have a sim, get one.


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07-19-2002 12:18 AM  16 years agoPost 3
corey11

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I havent heard about anything for the caliber 30 yet. But, are you sure you want to get an arf? if you do, i would prety much take it apart and put it back together so you know what everything is.

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07-19-2002 12:23 AM  16 years agoPost 4
gwallace1

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Yes I plan on taking it down and learning all that I can, or if there is a price difference not getting an arf. I am not going to learn with the glass blades on, but from what I have heard and read you will want glass blades not soon after learning to hover. Plus in the package they are pretty inexpensive.

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07-19-2002 06:43 AM  16 years agoPost 5
rb3

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i just started out as well. Definitely use the cheap wooden blades!!!! At $17, you wont feel so bad if you use them as a plow. if you can afford it get the sim. I love it, and its saved me a lot of time, I sprung for the realflght G2, with the controller, but if you could get one of the cheap ones, I would try it them before I dropped the funds for G2 (it costs me $180 new), get rays book, its good. Heliproz, has a review of the caliber, go there and check it out. heliproz.com. They also have package like what you are describing for about $680 (heli, servos, engine, radio, gyro). SO you might be interested in that. my only other advice would be to get some extra sets of wood blades if you can, balance all of the sets in one sitting, so when they break, you just slap a new pair on and check tracking. Definitely buy new gear to start, I went the route of a use heli, and its been an experience. But i can rebuild the thing with my eyes closed, as i have had some mishaps with it. GET HELP LOCALLY and just do it. Keep some parts on hand and just fly.

one last thing, i think the Caliber is a CCPM machine. you can set it to do the mixing mechanically or electronically (in the transmitter), but does the Airtronics do CCPM? I went with a Futaba 9CH, and love it! Check out heliproz.com they have all this info there

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07-19-2002 08:18 AM  16 years agoPost 6
ncostes

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Yes the RD6000 Super does CCPM

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07-19-2002 09:30 AM  16 years agoPost 7
mrNoodles

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No need for glass blades
The woodies that comes along with are almost as good as NHP´s etc.
The original wood blades are actually $10 more expensice than NHP 550mm blades here in Sweden so the quality of them is not to question

And I actually doubt that you will "learn" anything from taking it apart - just look at the heli and check with the manual and everything clears.
Its a very simple but smooth and good working construction!

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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07-19-2002 06:11 PM  16 years agoPost 8
Mopzilla

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Yes I plan on taking it down and learning all that I can, or if there is a price difference not getting an arf. I am not going to learn with the glass blades on, but from what I have heard and read you will want glass blades not soon after learning to hover. Plus in the package they are pretty inexpensive.
Since you're getting them so cheap, you think you can get them just as cheap again?

Use truly cheap woodies, for around, maybe, $30 precovered, prebalanced? It will be easier to take it when you crash your woodies. Woodies fly almost as good as different material blades. So learn with them.

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07-19-2002 06:34 PM  16 years agoPost 9
Hughes500Pilot

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Anaheim, CA

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Here is my two cents...

The Caliber as a first heli - sure, why not. From what I have seen it looks like a pretty decent heli (except for the Z bend on the tail rotor linkage - but thats easy enough to fix with a 2mm die). Should you use the CCPM or standard mixing - thats up to your preference.

As for the blades, use the stock wood blades until you are good at hovering and are into forward flight. Then get yourself some inexpensive FRP blades. I suggest the $28 550mm FRP blades form The World Models. You can buy them in full symmetrical or semi's. They are good blades at a great price.

As for the gyro, the GY240 is a very good gyro. I have two of them. However, the GY401 with the 9253 is so much better. I could spend all day trying to explain how much better it is. But, the only way for you to really know is to experience it... Trust me, get the GY401 and 9253 (heck, they are only $180 from Heli Hut).

As for the radio, I would not suggest the Airtronics 6. Yes, it will work you for your first learning stages. But when you are ready to advance, you will be very limited. This is the one area you should not "go cheap". JR and Futaba make some excellent radios. I prefer the Futaba, but JR is excellent as well. Just be sure to buy an 8 channel or above. I know it is a lot of extra money - but it is money very well spent.

-Steve

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07-19-2002 07:27 PM  16 years agoPost 10
Bill F

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I have a caliber 30 and can tell you it is very well built and easy to setup. I have only put about half a tank in mine but tommorow there is a funfly so I hope to get a lot through it. Right now I am using the stock wood blades but hope to get a set of glass blades soon.

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07-21-2002 03:56 AM  16 years agoPost 11
Bill F

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I was able to fly my caliber some more today and got it all dialed in. Let me just say that it is one great heli.

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07-21-2002 04:09 AM  16 years agoPost 12
Secret Squirrel

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Check out the review of the Caliber at http://www.littlerotors.com

Si

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