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07-17-2002 09:14 PM  16 years agoPost 1
corey11

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So, i went to the bay side rc feild today to get my heli cheked out and hopefully i would be able to fly it for my first time with a trainer. So after about an hour of tweaking and triming the heli out, he gave me the reciever, without a buddy cord, and said, "Take it up only around 8 inches and bring it back down, so you can get the feeling of it". So i did that and BAM! it hit!!!!!!!! No, not the helicopter!ha! How much fun this is and how..........Well i want to say easy, But it still has challenges for me! So, i started SOLOING my first day of flying!!!!!! I could hold it at a hover for a about 2 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And i did it all bymyself!!!!!!! That was after Dave trimmed it out and helped me fly it! I cant tell hime how much he helped me!!!! He is an awesome trainer!!!!!!! I still cant get over that i was hovering it my first day for about 2 minutes strait! i was staying in about a 5x5 area, and about 4 feet high!!!!!! I'm so HAPPY i got into this hobby.And the funny part about it is im only 14! the youngest pilot out at the feild! I think the two things tha hepled me alot was Dave Neves! He helped me ALOT!!!!, And two, was real flight g2! That helped me get all the oreantations and controls memorized! It still was alot different flying in real life though! So THANK YOU again Dave and ill see you soon!

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07-17-2002 09:27 PM  16 years agoPost 2
corey11

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O yea, one more thing. Dave thinks my thrust bearings are binding because when he gives it full throttle it goes up fast but not as fast as it should, as he said, it should go up like a rocket, not slow like a dog. He said it should even bog it down when he pins it. Lets put it this way, it probably climbs at around 5 feet a second. i think. thats just a guess. i think its fine but should i take the head apart and make sure?

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07-17-2002 09:50 PM  16 years agoPost 3
corey11

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I may of. If i did, how should they go in?

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07-17-2002 09:55 PM  16 years agoPost 4
Barbary

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wider i.d. race closest to the head, then ball cage, then narrower i.d. race.

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07-17-2002 10:03 PM  16 years agoPost 5
corey11

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Mmmmm?
Barbary,

Since im only a begginer at this, i think ill take a look at the manuel or you can explain it some more>Sorry

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07-17-2002 10:22 PM  16 years agoPost 6
Barbary

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the thrust bearings come in 3 parts, an outer race, an inner race, and the ball cage that fits between them. the holes in the 2 races, in most thrust bearings but not all, are slightly different sizes. One is a very snug fit around your axle (spindle, feathering shaft, whatever you want to call it), the other has a small bit of slop when slipped over the axle. the sloppy one always goes closest to the head block and the tighter one goes toward the blade. if you mixed the parts together, you might have them reversed on one side or both, or you might have 2 wide ones on one side and 2 narrow ones on the other. or you may have thrust bearings that have race openings both the same size, in which case it wouldn't matter how they went together. you can pull your blade grips off and check which configuration you have and whether you assembled the bearings properly. they will drag and catch at high head speeds if installed wrong.

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07-17-2002 10:26 PM  16 years agoPost 7
corey11

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ill go check it right now and ill tell you how it is.

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07-18-2002 02:10 AM  16 years agoPost 8
Dave Neves

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Thrust Bearings
Corey,

This illustration is from an X-Cell Helicopter rotor head.
However it does illustrate the assembly order of the
Thrust bearing assembly. If you rock the thrust washers
back and forth on the spindle, it will become obvious
which washer has the larger I.D.

Good Luck

Dave Neves

http://warhammer.mcc.virginia.edu/t...ages/xl60-2.gif

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08-24-2002 03:11 AM  15 years agoPost 9
quick

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hEY dAVE
hI dAVE. I live in Tiburon and am new to the heli hobby. Do you think you could help me out with flying next time your at the field. Also, where is it. I didn't think anyone up here other than san jose flew. I've flown 2 or 3 times so far but crazy. Like full throttle forward flight and tick tocks. I have no fear. Ha Ha. So, what do you think. R U willing to lend a helping hand to a begginner. Thanks
Sam

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08-24-2002 04:08 AM  15 years agoPost 10
Dave Neves

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Sam
I would be glad to help you. Our club is the bayside R/C club.
We have about 325 members, of which about 100 fly helicopters.
There are 3 other instructors besides myself who also help
beginners with basic setup and flight training. When someone
comes out for the first time, we will go over the helicopter to
make sure everything is assembled and setup properly. We
then take the helicopter up for a trim flight and make whatever
adjustments are needed. If the student is already an AMA
member then we will strap on the extended landing gear on
and give the student some pointers on what to practice first.
I am at the field from 8:30 to 2:00 on Wednesdays and Sundays.
For more info on our club, you can check out our website at:
http://www.baysidercclub.com

Dave Neves

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08-24-2002 06:06 AM  15 years agoPost 11
corey11

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geese. heres an old post! this was one of my first post! i think. Dave will help you alot. make sure your an ama member so you can fly your bird. The other people Dave was talking about were, Paul, he is very patient. And im prety sure 1 other guy. the website shows who is a trainer and stuff.

Hope to see you there some time!

P.S. Dave. i wont be able to come during the week anymore because school starts. ya. i will come as many weekend as possible though. im probably going to go the first weekend im back.

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08-24-2002 09:09 AM  15 years agoPost 12
helidude

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Thrustbearings versus climbout rate??
I would rather see you look at engine power or more importantly set-up.
Improperly installed thrust bearings would also cause a severe tracking problem.

helidude

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09-04-2002 01:50 AM  15 years agoPost 13
corey11

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It was the thrust bearings. they were all mixed up. my engine was fine untill the crash. im going to save up for an os engine though

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09-04-2002 02:33 AM  15 years agoPost 14
Barbary

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you suspected that in july and just confirmed it now?

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09-04-2002 02:36 AM  15 years agoPost 15
corey11

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no no no. i confirmed it a while ago. i made a different post for it though. i forget what it was called though.

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