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12-15-2004 02:29 PM  15 years ago
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allns47

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esky 6 ch honey bee
For some reason my orginal thread got closed....I have now had my honeybee 3d for a couple weeks now and have flown it everyday at work and still have had no problems....I am concidering ordereing another bare bones kit from hobbyjapan2000.com for 75.00 and make this one brushless.....The other day at work while everyone was out for lunch I tried to flip it and see if I could do it in doors...It was pretty ugly at first but a few attempts i completed it....Each time about hit the floor...The row and flip rate is still slow compared to other micros I have owned...But the main reason is the headspeed is low with the stock pos brushed motor.....
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12-15-2004 06:47 PM  15 years ago
raptor30

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I wonder why the other post is closed also

I still havent got my Honeybee,it is at Customs(see my other post)i hope i have it now in a couple of days.

What exactly does the 3D switch do(i guess it changes the pitch curve?),doesnt it increase the headspeed also?

At the pictures i saw of the Honeybee it looks like there are 2 flybar weights near the paddles,is that right?
Have you tried to slide them in,or remove them?

Marcel
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12-15-2004 10:08 PM  15 years ago
Apples

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Raptor 30

According to HobbyJapan,

"When you flip the 3D switch, the trottle control will working like this:
- Move throttle down will create air flow to top - this is how the upside down flying works
- When you move up the throtle, the air flow will go to bottom as normal.

Basicall, when you flip the 3D switch, you change the pitch of the mainblade and make it ready for 3D flying"
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12-16-2004 03:55 PM  15 years ago
raptor30

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Yessssss i finally received my Honeybee today

Should there also be a simulator in the box,or only the interface cable?


Thanks,
Marcel
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12-16-2004 04:11 PM  15 years ago
raptor30

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allns47,how did you mount the antenna?
Is is around the landinggear,but i dont know if it can stay there.

thanks,
Marcel
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12-20-2004 08:18 PM  15 years ago
raptor30

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12-24-2004 05:10 AM  15 years ago
Munchkin Man

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First flight today.

http://img142.exs.cx/img142/5872/honeybee23ag.jpg

Great bang for the buck.
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12-24-2004 04:48 PM  15 years ago
raptor30

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Nice picture ;-)

How long can you fly on one charge?
I wonder if i can let the antenna like that also?

Marcel
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12-24-2004 09:04 PM  15 years ago
Munchkin Man

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We don't have a good feel for flight times yet. The weather has been a little windy and timing our flights hasn't been a priority. Once we push off into larger circuits the antenna routing will have to be reconsidered but it's ok like it is for backyard flights.
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12-27-2004 02:36 AM  15 years ago
Vitya

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Im very curious about getting one of these helis, please keep us informed about any issues. Especially the tail motor. I don't mind if the thing fails every two months and a replacement is $5 but I don't think its that low and I hope the failure rate isn't high. Oh yes, how does it handle? Have you tried lightening the paddles?
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12-28-2004 09:14 AM  15 years ago
Espen

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Got the Honey Bee 2 just before christmas.. Nice little heli! Got the whole package with the 1800 li-ion battery from http://www.hobbyjapan2000.com. I didn't specify what mode the transmitter was supposed to be, so had to move the throttle pot from the right to the left on the transmitter.

The charger seemed to have US plug for the current, so had to open it (not glued, just use a sharp screw driver and force it open) and attach a new plug to make it fit Norwegian standards. The charger is 110-250v, so should work most places. The charger has a led glowing red when charging, switching to green when done charging.

Does anyone know if the battery have to be disconnected once it's charged, or could I leave the charger over night with the battery connected ?

I have no experience with electro helies, only the Kyosho Caliber 30 and the Raptor 50 V2, but I have to say I'm amazed at how complete the Honey Bee is!

The only thing I miss about the heli is pitchable tail rotor. The tail-rotor is fixed and the tail motor only operates in one direction, meaning rotating right is done by the tail rotor spinning forcing the heli to rorate right and rotating left means the tail rotor "stops" and the heli is forced rotating left by the torque of the main blades. Since I've only been trying it some indoors in the living room so far due to the weather, I don't know how this affects 3D flight.. Hoping to be able to move outside soon..

Flies out of the box, just charge it and fit the battery.

Btw, I dragged the antenna wire along the tail boom, through the hole at the tail motor and down the "rear landing pole" using the strips in the package.

Still, can't believe how cheap this is compared to the price of "equal" helis of other brands! With transmitter, charger, battery and all.. Great way to start the Heli carreer on a low budget!

Here's a video of it doing inverted and some:
http://www.planemodel.com/rm/Esky3d-1.rm
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12-28-2004 05:20 PM  15 years ago
raptor30

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Anyone has a close-up picture of how the traininggear is fitted to the undercarriage?
I dont know how the 4 seperate clips should be mounted

Thanks,
Marcel
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12-28-2004 11:42 PM  15 years ago
Apples

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Training Gear
Raptor30

Go to HobbyJapan, http://www.hobbyjapan2000.com/HJhelpInfo.html..Pictures will show you what to do.
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12-29-2004 10:16 AM  15 years ago
raptor30

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Ah thanks,i see the details at the tips/info section indeed

Marcel
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01-05-2005 09:18 PM  15 years ago
oragami

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I had a honey B for a total of one week. Biggest piece of crap i had ever owned.

Under powered, Ill mannered, and flew like a turd.

I was to say the least "Very dis satisfied". I am a experienced pilot with about 200 hours scale flying. 3-d really doesnt do much for me, yet flying upside down does make me giggle like a school girl.

For an experienced pilot, the honey b is garbage. Doesnt fly well out of the box, and never stays put. Gyro adjustments out of the rhelm of 80% are a joke.

But i guess you get what you pay for.

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01-08-2005 04:17 AM  15 years ago
Daze

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oragami,

Can you suggest an alternative to the Honey Bee 2? I'm thinking of getting one, mainly because of its appealing price.

Thanks
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01-08-2005 12:23 PM  15 years ago
Munchkin Man

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The jury is still out on the reliability issue, but I think it flies pretty good. Stable hover. Some adjustments may be required to get it to this point however.
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01-08-2005 11:22 PM  15 years ago
Daze

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Thanks Munchkin Man.

I've only ever flown in Reflex XTR with my 9CHP, so this will be my first venture into "real" flying.

I don't know where to start TBH...
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01-09-2005 12:22 AM  15 years ago
raptor30

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Munchkin man,what adjustments did you have to do?
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01-09-2005 03:06 AM  15 years ago
Munchkin Man

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There are several threads on RCU concerning the HB2 with discussions on adjustments. I've shortened the three rods from servo to swashplate to shift the pitch curve in the positive direction. We turned each ball joint clockwise 1.5 turns to be specific. We lowered the gain slightly to stop the tail motor from surging. And I think we increased the proportional slightly to give the tail some authority. Seemed like before that the rudder trim was maxed out. Also don't waste any time with the Ni-Mh battery. We went with a 3-cell 1450mah LiPo and it's doing well. If you're new to helis, be sure to use some training gear even if you have to make your own. And be sure to check the CG before you attempt to lift off. Give yourself plenty of room when learning any heli for the first time.
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