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12-12-2004 12:56 AM  13 years agoPost 1
Sealerman

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This is a very interesting website and a good source of info from the other side, check it out.
http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm

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12-12-2004 01:49 AM  13 years agoPost 2
BOHICA

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Looked at the site, nothing but negitive messages, remindes me of the Kerry campaign so I shall look no more

Brad "We Dare Not Forget That We Are The Heirs Of That First Revolution" -John F

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12-12-2004 02:04 AM  13 years agoPost 3
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Looked at the site, nothing but negitive messages, remindes me of the Kerry campaign so I shall look no more
Thanks for at least looking.
I think this is the way the current administration feels that's why it takes embarrassing them to get anything that helps the troops done.
Do you think they are lying or is it that you only want to hear good news?

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12-12-2004 02:39 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Helimex

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The truth hurts and many people would rather go painless. Some people would rather believe all is fine but those that bother to seek the truth know better.

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12-12-2004 02:53 AM  13 years agoPost 5
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Unfortunately any media is going to be slanted in the direction "they" wish "you" the viewer, reader, listener to receive it. In my 13 years at what I did in the military, I have seen very bad and very good. Unfortunately almost all of it was portrayed very differently from what really happened by the entities that wanted you to see it. I am not calling anyone a liar or a story spinner I am just stating the facts that everything witnessed, then told is 100% biased by the person that is telling of the event

Just my .02
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12-12-2004 03:05 AM  13 years agoPost 6
BOHICA

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Wa11banger AMEN!!!!! Been there done that!

Brad "We Dare Not Forget That We Are The Heirs Of That First Revolution" -John F

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12-12-2004 03:19 AM  13 years agoPost 7
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Wa11banger,
Thats so true it's just sad that it's human nature to only hear what you want to hear.
I'm just disappointed that there are so many Americans that think any criticism or analysis of the actions of politicians, lets face it Republicans is anti American. This attitude comes from a carefully crafted campaign to make it seem that any dissent is bad. When someone says info is negative so I don't want to hear it, they are setting themselves up for a major disappointment because the truth has a way of coming out.

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12-12-2004 03:26 AM  13 years agoPost 8
Helimex

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Sealerman, you best stop with that un-American nonsense you're talking. Ashcroft might come get you and lock you up for being a subversive. Oh wait, he's gone. Never mind, carry on.

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12-12-2004 03:27 AM  13 years agoPost 9
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Wa11banger dude been there done that!!! all that ever gets reported the is bad stuff!!! it seems like. i am not retarded and full of false hopes, as with every thing war is not perfect. i have been on both sides and the media interprets stories to there own agenda to get ratings. ( bad news is good news) now i realize this does not happen all the time, but all i'm saying is get all the facts from different sources before you make an overall judgment.

Brad US Army D co. 285th Attack

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12-12-2004 03:39 AM  13 years agoPost 10
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Sealerman, you best stop with that un-American nonsense you're talking. Ashcroft might come get you and lock you up for being a subversive. Oh wait, he's gone. Never mind, carry on.
Dude I'm an American and I know to many people have died to give me the right to speak my mind. If this Government betrays their sacrifice by throwing me in jail for exercising the right they died for by questioning this Governments actions I would be honored to go to jail.
It's so sad that people think that the Government we have represents the American dream that so many have died to protect.
I support America always and it's Government when it deserves it.
Anti-American My ass.

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12-12-2004 03:42 AM  13 years agoPost 11
Helimex

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Dude, take a chill pill.
Sealerman, if you read my posts you'll realize I'm on your side.

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12-12-2004 03:49 AM  13 years agoPost 12
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Sealerman, if you read my posts you'll realize I'm on your side
I know, it's just that it scares me to think others think like I do.
Dude, take a chill pill.
I'm out, can I bum one off of you.

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12-12-2004 04:12 AM  13 years agoPost 13
Helimex

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Well, in any case, it's nice to know we have "fair and balanced" news channels like Fox to tell us the real truth. (smirk)

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12-12-2004 04:15 AM  13 years agoPost 14
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Well, in any case, it's nice to know we have "fair and balanced" news channels like Fox to tell us the real truth. (smirk
Oh come on Helimex you can do better than that, say it like you mean it brother.

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12-12-2004 04:22 AM  13 years agoPost 15
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Well, ok, here it goes....Rush, you're a big fat idiot! Oh wait, I think someone already said that.

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12-12-2004 04:28 AM  13 years agoPost 16
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Rush, you're a big fat idiot! Oh wait, I think someone already said that.
Maybe so but I can't get enough of that. Thanks

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12-12-2004 06:40 PM  13 years agoPost 17
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Some people would rather believe all is fine but those that bother to seek the truth know better
Some people would rather believe all is NOT fine but those that bother to seek the truth know better. There will always be two sides to everything. Just wondering, does argueing back and forth about it really accomplish anything? If one person believes what he wants, and the other believes what they want, is either one going to persuade the other by taking shots at their beliefs or opinions? It just seems like there is an awful lot of negativity in the world today about everything. It appears to me that if people really wanted to make a difference they would find a more constructive way to express their voice so that it was accomplishing something, instead of just wasting oxygen argueing on a forum like this. I support you guys expressing yourselves and all, but is anyone really doing anything about the situation? Maybe it's just more fun to spout off about it.

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12-12-2004 06:51 PM  13 years agoPost 18
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Rchelipilot
We're not arguing, we're just having a dialogue in a forum that is off topics. I might raise an objection if we were doing this in a heli forum or thread but we're not, so all is ok.

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12-12-2004 07:09 PM  13 years agoPost 19
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I'm not trying to call you out or anything. I start lots of dialogues that have nothing to do with helicopters. I guess what I was trying to say was if the presidential situation is really that big of a problem to so many here, is anyone actually doing anything about it? It seems like these "dialogues", as harmless or not as they may be, always seem to degrade to some all out "fight" where the same crap ends up getting regurgitated over and over. "The war is illegal!" "Kerry lied about his service!" "Bush was AWOL!" "Dan Rather had forged documents!" "Rush is an idiot!" Michael Moore is fat!" etc... etc...

I was just trying to figure out why everyone seems to WANT to be so divided on everything. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I understand having a voice and an opinion and all, but whether it's off topics or not, does anyone really accomplish anything? And that's not just here at RR. I seem to see it everywhere anymore. At least since the election is over it's not as bad as it was earlier, but it just seems so negative to me. I try to stay positive and upbeat about things. I have my opinions, but they're not going to persuade or dissuade others. All that's going to happen is everyone that shares my opinion is going to gang up with me against those that don't, and it turns into a pissing contest. You guys aren't argueing here, because you have the same opinion. As soon as someone who doesn't reads this, they will chime in with, "You guys are stupid, blah, blah, blah.", and the circle continues. That's what I was refering to with the "argueing" comment. Anyway, I'll get back to my plane building and leave you guys alone. I guess I was just thinking out loud.

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12-12-2004 07:22 PM  13 years agoPost 20
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Some people would rather believe all is NOT fine but those that bother to seek the truth know better.
Lets see No WMD's, No link to 9/11 and a deadly and determined insurgence kill our troops everyday. Listening to Fox News and Rush Bimbo is not seeking the truth.
There will always be two sides to everything
I did not know that.
Maybe it's just more fun to spout off about it.
Definitely

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