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12-10-2004 08:11 PM  13 years agoPost 1
shaunnorthern

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i just bought two used helicopters and i think they are humming birds one is bigger. but the one i'm trying to fly when i put the batteries on and turn it on, i give it throttle and it starts shaking real bad and will not take off and the tail starts spinning to the left i don't know y this is my first time any help will be greatly appreciated

Mike Johnson

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12-10-2004 08:26 PM  13 years agoPost 2
rckrzy1

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need ALOT more input, what radios, mixer boards, gyro's etc.



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12-10-2004 08:52 PM  13 years agoPost 3
shaunnorthern

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here is what i have
i have a humming bird frame. with a pixi 20p main esc - pixi 7p tail esc-
4 channel reciever gsw transmitter with matching crystals 2x blue bird servos 2x servo adjustable arms original arms swashplate has an upgraded ball in it swash plate collor mia g10 custom frame bell hiller mixer upgraded antena cnc anti rotation arm heading hold csm gyro inline fuse heat sink for main motor the tail has a direct drive setup thats all i know and i am not sure which one thats for cause there is two helicopters their listed on rcu under justin_92_92 thats who i got them from but if u can help me out at all let me know thanks all and its a

remote is zhen hua pcm-4ch 72 mhz

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12-10-2004 11:37 PM  13 years agoPost 4
roys55

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I will give you some good advise. Buy a Caliber 30 or a raptor V2 and start out right. Both helis are good. That junk you have is going to be nothing but trouble.

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12-11-2004 12:02 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Graeme

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Mike, Judging by the pix over on the RCU ad, you do have a couple Hummingbirds. If this is your first attempt at helis, roys55 was right: they're going to be a pain to learn on. (The good thing is that they're tough little machines; they'll take quite a beating.)

They're really tricky, but not impossible. There have been posts here from guys that learned on the Hummingbird, then had absolutely no problem flying the 30 nitro machines.

The best thing you can do is find someone in your area who can check out what you have, and help you learn.

It wouldn't hurt to do some reading on here, too. There's a whole separate forum for them, http://www.runryder.com/f77p1/



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12-11-2004 03:20 AM  13 years agoPost 6
vhorton

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the best thing to do is fine a local club and get someone to help you. you can do this by yourself,but it is much,much harder.

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12-11-2004 04:34 AM  13 years agoPost 7
Chuck Bole

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hey here's a link to the pilot locator
http://www.pilotlocator.net/
chuck

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12-11-2004 06:00 AM  13 years agoPost 8
Heliavi8or

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I agree. Being new to the hobby as well, I have learned that finding a good training machine is key and then staying with it. I wanted every heli I saw. I thought that the electrics would be easier but actually I fly both now and the gas(glow) is easier in general. Good Luck!

Practice! It might be costly but it's the only way we get better!

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12-11-2004 07:19 AM  13 years agoPost 9
shaunnorthern

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i crashed like no tomorrow
now i knew it wouldn't be easy but wow i crashed more than anything i don't know what the heck is going on with these things i got it in the air a few times but everytime it went up it started going off to the side real fast and i crashed into the wall i guess i don't have enuff space in the house but it seems like it would be a little easier to have hover if it didn't pull so hard to the side i think it would stay up for me i had to change the tail boom motor and i put a smaller blade on it and it seems to be moving alot smoother but what do i know lol i would love to of had the advise b4 i got the junk but i'm stuck with it now and they are going to have to work but i beat the heck out of this helicopter today and all's i ruined was the tail blade so the helicopter is not to bad when it comes to crashing and i have crashed like 20 times if there is any thing u can tell me about leveling the paddles out and tighten up my main blade that would be great i was told that they were supposed to be loose but i know its not supposed to be as loose as they are well i would imagine thanks for all the info

Mike Johnson

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12-11-2004 08:02 AM  13 years agoPost 10
Heliavi8or

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Get a raptor 30 or 50 and get started the right way(any good solid glow machine will do). There are electrics that have came a long way and you could learn on them but overall it seems to me that they are still trickier than glow. I am still a newbie meself though so keep asking around. Good Luck.

Practice! It might be costly but it's the only way we get better!

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12-11-2004 01:09 PM  13 years agoPost 11
mojojo

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You might want to try a Sim. Reflex or G2..sounds like you are over-controlling the little heli. A sim will help alot. Their is a few electric heli's in G2 ....Good luck.

Joe Miller

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12-12-2004 07:25 AM  13 years agoPost 12
shaunnorthern

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got it up
well i finally got it off of the ground with out crashing first had it jumping all over and got everything trimmed out so now i can just give it throttle and it will go up and fly around in circles but can't get it to just stay in one spot and hover i tried to get it but i don't know what else to do as far as getting it to stay still

can any one tell me if the tail motor is supposed to be tilted down or up or centered i have my tail centered and it seems to be doing better than yesterday but i don't know much when the battery is not lifting no more it just glides to the left i think thats y i cant hover if u know y please let me know thanks 2 all

Mike Johnson

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12-12-2004 11:19 AM  13 years agoPost 13
GroundPounder

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I tried to teach myself to fly on one them little electric shi..ts.
Huge waste of money, and time.
If you are a newbie, and not terribly gifted, then you are in the same boat as me.
I got a Raptor 50, and about 30 flights later, I'm into precission hovering, and relatively controlled FF.
Total cost after initial outlay, one new boom, set main blades, some links.

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12-12-2004 03:39 PM  13 years agoPost 14
shaunnorthern

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thanks for all the help
well i took my hb to the hobby shop and unfortuately they didn't know much about helicopters so i'm kinda on my own with this one

still jumping around with it got it up and flew around my living room but crashed into my christmas tree lol so far i have crashed about 25 times and still no harm to the helicopter has to be a ok thing keep getting it up but cant keep it still any help would be killer

Mike Johnson

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12-12-2004 04:41 PM  13 years agoPost 15
shaunnorthern

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7 more crashes
7 more crashes and still no break in the heli all together i have crashed atleast 30 times the only thing i had to replace is the tail boom blade once and i have crashed into everything including the christmas tree the trim on the controller does not do alot for the tail boom but works fine on everything else, tail boom motor trim has to be all the way to the left or it will just spin in circles got me thinking this hb I am flying is way lighter than the other one i have cause the other one has way more stuff on it that it might be more sturdy which will make it more eaiser to fly? ( I hope) didn't want to because i thought i would learn on the smaller of the two and beat it up because it looks simple to fix which it has been so far but do u think it would be a good idea trying to set up some training gear and do more with the bigger one that has a bigger gyro or just continue to learn on this smaller one

Mike Johnson

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12-12-2004 08:12 PM  13 years agoPost 16
cforcht

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I will agree with the posts saying get a caliber or raptor30. i tried to start out with a little elec heli and soon decided it was useless. i bought an R30 and it was a heck of alot easier to learn on. In fact after about 10 tanks of hovering i was into forward flight and then I was hooked for good. yes ive had a few crashes. some my fault some not but it was much easier on a bigger bird than the little electrics.



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12-12-2004 09:15 PM  13 years agoPost 17
shaunnorthern

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wish i could get a bigger one
going to give it a few more tries and then go to the bigger one and if i still cant get it then i will try to trade both for a r30 hopefully i can just because i cant fly out doors rite now but with the smaller ones i dont have enough room in my house to get it up and hold it every time i get it up i get close to the wall and have to hurry up and bring it down so i need a much bigger room. i'm sure i could get this thing up and hold it if i had the room

one other question is there a way if anyone knows on a stock humming bird, is there a way to change the servo for the tail boom because it is set all the way to the left i don't know if they come stock like that but it makes my helicopter spin to the left unless i hold the stick to the left just a little bit. as soon as i turn my helicopter on the tail motor starts spinning not too fast but enough to push if u know how to reset the tail servo if it has one ( never opened it up) but how to center it thanks

Mike Johnson

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12-12-2004 09:31 PM  13 years agoPost 18
shaunnorthern

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wish i could get a bigger one
going to give it a few more tries and then go to the bigger one and if i still cant get it then i will try to trade both for a r30 hopefully i can just because i cant fly out doors rite now but with the smaller ones i dont have enough room in my house to get it up and hold it every time i get it up i get close to the wall and have to hurry up and bring it down so i need a much bigger room. i'm sure i could get this thing up and hold it if i had the room

one other question is there a way if anyone knows on a stock humming bird, is there a way to change the servo for the tail boom because it is set all the way to the left i don't know if they come stock like that but it makes my helicopter spin to the left unless i hold the stick to the left just a little bit. as soon as i turn my helicopter on the tail motor starts spinning not too fast but enough to push if u know how to reset the tail servo if it has one ( never opened it up) but how to center it thanks

Mike Johnson

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12-12-2004 09:59 PM  13 years agoPost 19
iflybyu77

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micro's
my 2 cents..

I learned heli's on my HB - flew it for about an hour and had the basics of hovering down pretty good.. flew it for about another month (never did nose in or anything however). I then bought an R50 and what a HUGE difference. I took the sticks - no buddy box - right off the bat and did basic circuits on the first tank.

My lesson learned here was the HB REALLY forces you to control - almost overcontrol - to keep in a hover. This helped tremendously in the transition to my R50. Within 5-6 tanks I was doing nose-in and tried a few loops even. The HB IS dang durable too - hit all kinds of things with mine too - including the dog Oops!

If you are deadset on an indoor for now, sell those HB's and get a Hirobo XRB r/c version. Much more stable, and AT LEAST as capable as the HB. ... just don't plan on getting one before Christmas..

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12-13-2004 02:35 AM  13 years agoPost 20
shaunnorthern

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thanks all
well i have more crashes under my belt still no hover but still no space to get it but how i figure it is the smaller the room the better i will have to be to fly =equaling more crashes lol just cant figure out the basics yet any way.

but when i do get it up i tend to forget which way the controls are and then lose it but thats my own uncordnated fault lol still trying and going to go check out the micro helicopter fourm

Mike Johnson

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