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12-09-2004 06:23 PM  13 years agoPost 1
q80-pilot

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Aberdeen, UK

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Hi there,

I'm using the Futaba 9ZHP with the 601 gyro on my Raptor 30, and I would like to know about the P->R and R->T mix, do I have to turn one or both of them off?

And I would like to know where can I find the REVO-MIX on the 9ZHP?

Thanks

FAHAD

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12-09-2004 08:59 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Wyn

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Oregon, USA

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P>R (pitch to rudder) is "revo mix". Gyros in heading hold mode, or AVCS as futaba calls it, use no mixes TO the rudder channel. (i.e. inhibit P>R for AVCS mode). R>T (rudder to throttle) is FROM the rudder, and is optional.

You can use the 601 in normal mode (non-AVCS) as well, but hardly anyone does. See my previous post on your other topic for the links to the manuals. You can find a 601 manual online as well if you need one.

The major thing to remember with a Z is that the mixes like P>R can be different for every flight condition. If you just change something in Normal, it did not change for Hold, Idle-1 or 2. Flip the switch through Normal, Idle-1, Idle-2, and Hold to make sure you have things set the way you want them.

After making sure right rudder is right and left is left, bench test a heading hold/AVCS gyro by centering the rudder servo and letting go of the stick. It should not move. Now move the cyclic and collective, it should still not move. Finally, move the heli clockwise and the tail blades should move in the direction that would piro anti-clockwise.

Wyn

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12-09-2004 11:09 PM  13 years agoPost 3
z11355

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let me be blunt here.

you've asked the exact same question at least
3 times and it's been answered 3+ times. You've bought all top of the line hardware but don't
seem to understand how it operates or how it
should operate. I don't see any indication from
your responses that you've used any of the advice
given other than a terse 'thanks'.

Perhaps you should try to find some local
1 on 1 help and/or rethink what you're trying
to setup on the machine. The 9Z can make
things as complicated as you can stand but there
isn't any reason, given new technology like
Heading Hold gyro's to use revo mix or many
of the other band-aids that used to be used.

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12-10-2004 12:07 AM  13 years agoPost 4
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z11355,

I don't think that my previos posts are exact the same...
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1-Hi there,

I'm using the Futaba 9ZHP with the 601 gyro on my Raptor 30, and I would like to know about the P->R and R->T mix, do I have to turn one or both of them off?

And I would like to know where can I find the REVO-MIX on the 9ZHP?

12-09-2004 06:23 PM

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2-Hi there,

Is there any one knows what is the setup for Raptor 30 Pitch to Rudder Mixing?
and the Rudder to Throttle Mixing?
and how can I adjust the rudder movment with the throttle stick, is it from the R->T or from the PMX? and what is the adjustments for that?

12-05-2004 12:21 AM

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3-Hi there,

Is there any one knows how to go to the rudder mixing screen in the 9ZHP?9ZHP 9ZHP

12-04-2004 09:05 PM

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12-10-2004 12:09 AM  13 years agoPost 5
q80-pilot

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z11355,

So I do not think they are the same, and it may look the same, cause no one gave me the answer that can help solve my problem...

Second thing, I bought top of the line items so I can train on them now so as they will be the best if I became an advance flyer, and I do not care if there will be better than those items later, cause I'm happy with what I bought.

FAHAD

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12-10-2004 01:11 AM  13 years agoPost 6
Wyn

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Oregon, USA

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So I do not think they are the same, and it may look the same, cause no one gave me the answer that can help solve my problem...
Hmmm -

It might be better to keep related and follow-up questions together in the same thread. This makes the problem easier to understand. From your previous posts, it looks like you're not understanding the two different gyro modes, or which one you actually want to use.

So, just use AVCS mode and test it on the bench as I described earlier. For safety sake, have someone double check your work before you fly.

Hint - It's normal to have to read the manuals on these gizmos a few times and experiment with the settings.

Wyn

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12-10-2004 05:54 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Mike H

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Fraserburgh - Scotland

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q80-pilot

There are a few very experienced Heli Pilots in the Aberdeen and Inverurie clubs.

Why don't you get some of our local guys to set things up for you?

Mike
Team QuickUK

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12-10-2004 06:21 PM  13 years agoPost 8
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Aberdeen, UK

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Mike,

Most of them flys JR radios, I was there this morning, but the there was just one guy who flys heli and he didn't know how to do the futaba settings cause he is using JR as well

Thanks

Fahad

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12-10-2004 08:29 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Mike H

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Fraserburgh - Scotland

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No guys with Raptors at the weekend to help you with the basic settings?

The basic linkage settings and how it all moves will be the same regardless of Radio.

If you can't get it together, take a trip up to Inverurie and get either Quentin or myself to check it over for you. Its more all less all raptors and Futaba radios that the guys use.

I'd rather you got it right first time, wouldn't want you to get hurt or damage the Heli.

If you want to visit us for assistance, get in contact on the forum at http://www.idmc.org.uk/idmcforum/

Mike
Team QuickUK

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