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12-09-2004 12:09 AM  13 years agoPost 1
xxkiloxx

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HyperRaptor from HeliProz
i have been flying r/c planes for 9 years now and i am now getting into the heli side of r/c. my question is... is the hyper raptor package ( http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...ber=101450HYPER ) a good deal for a beginer? i am going to "dumb" the heli up before i waste all those nice goodies it comes with. but in the long run would it be wise to get this set up and save the upgrades for later when i need them? also i have used, almost exclusevly, futaba radio systems for my airplanes (i have and old 4 channel jr and 4channel hitec also). i see that many of you use JR systems. is the 9303 a good option? i know from prior experience that i will wind up getting a better radio down the road if i start out too simple so i am thinging of going with the 8 or 9 channel radios from the get go. by the way, i am using g2 as of now to help learn to fly... any info would be great.
Thanks- kilo

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12-09-2004 12:20 AM  13 years agoPost 2
blockatvalpo

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You will love the Raptor 50. I have the 30 and love it to death. You are definitely going to want to "dumb" it up. Get the cheap woodies that heliproz sells and use them till you are good and then put the carbons on. You will also want to take off the carbon fins. You probably don't want to damage them in a bad crash. You can find fins on here for sale. They aren't really $$. IF you get a crash kit, it comes with the fins in there. I have heard some good things about the 9303. What are people flying near you in terms of the radio? If they have Futaba, get a futaba, since you will mroe than likely need some help setting up. Also look at the 8103, I love mine, but if you want more channels it doesn't do much for you. 8 are plenty in my opinion. Hope that helps you out.

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12-09-2004 12:44 AM  13 years agoPost 3
BARTGALAMBOS

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Futaba 9CHP
Welcome to heli's! I too flew planks for many years prior to getting into heli's. I bought a Caliber, but have flown Raptor's as well. I really like the Futaba 9CHP and I am now expermenting with the GV-1 Governor. I selected the GY401 gyro too. Have fun. I recommend Ray's Authoritative Helicopter Manual if your like me and want to be self-taught.....

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12-09-2004 12:56 AM  13 years agoPost 4
BC Don

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I'm running a futaba 7CHF with my Hawk. Comes with the 3151digital servoes.

I have a 9CAP that I sent to Futaba to convert to a CHP. I'll be using that in the Raven that I'm building.

In comparing the 7CH versus the 9CH, the 9CH has some additional swash plate stuff in it and will handle a governer better. And of course has things like triple rates and an additional idle up I think. It also has things like "test servoes" and a screen that'll show you a graph of what your stick (or switch movement) is doing to a servo - real nice during setup.

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12-09-2004 02:19 AM  13 years agoPost 5
ACE21

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Hey xxKilox...I Just got my 1st heli(Raptor 50V2)..And Ill pass on some advice I get from Alan Szabo Jr. personally...Forget about all the "bling" now and just get the bare bones 50 with the woodies...Mine also came with a set of Carbons...Use the money you save and get 2 things...1. The best possible radio you can afford(cause if you stick with the helis ur gonna want a great transmitter)..I have a Futaba 7CHP(Mid range price $279.00 with 4 3151 Servos)..If you can afford it though the 9C is better. 2nd thing he said to get instead of bling was FUEL and use lots of it...

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12-09-2004 02:22 AM  13 years agoPost 6
xxkiloxx

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thanks for all the input guys!

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12-09-2004 03:10 AM  13 years agoPost 7
Helimex

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Thumbs up for the Raptor 50. Good choice. I love my 8103 and find that the 9303 is overkill but if you have the spare change, go for it.

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12-09-2004 03:41 AM  13 years agoPost 8
V-22 Osprey

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It’s hard to go wrong with a 50 Raptor; almost any of the newer 50s would be excellent choice. The Hyper package has a lot of nice upgrades, none that are needed for learning to fly. I do like the Hyper engine and its what I would be putting in any new 50…at least until the YS come out! I would look at it this was…and this is just me. If you get a basic 50R with the Hyper engine its not that much more for the Hyper Raptor package. It still comes with all the stock parts so it could be built stock with the Hyper engine for now. I have a hard time passing up a good deal and the Hyper Raptor package is a good deal. Although the upgraded parts cost a little more to replace, most should fair well in a crash…minus the blades. If you have the cash get it.

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12-09-2004 01:27 PM  13 years agoPost 9
BarracudaHockey

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FYI The Veloci Raptor came with all the original parts plus the upgrade parts including the original wood blades. So I would assume the Hyper Raptor would be the same. Save the upgrades till your ready for them especially those nice Mav G4Pro Carbon blades.

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12-09-2004 04:52 PM  13 years agoPost 10
xxkiloxx

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thats the info i needed! thanks barracudahockey! i will order the package from heliproz today... next question is, are the jr 811 servos good enough for the 50 or should i step up to the 8311's? its a $200 difference but the 8311's have double the torque of the 811's... thanks for the help guys! -kilo

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12-09-2004 04:56 PM  13 years agoPost 11
BarracudaHockey

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No problem. If you run out of wood blades I have 2 sets collecting dust, pm me and we will work a deal. Infact I'll trade you straight up for the G4 carbons that come with your kit I'll even pay the shipping!

If you have any questions drop me a line, I'm pretty sure the hyper raptor is just a veloci raptor with a hyper engine.

Andy
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12-10-2004 10:40 PM  13 years agoPost 12
A. Bundy

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Basically.But also a couple more metal parts/carbon fins/carbon TR blades/boom servo mount.Nice package,but a lot of stuff that you really don't need to start.If you have the money to spend it's a nice set up.This is a velociraptor.

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12-11-2004 07:06 AM  13 years agoPost 13
Heliavi8or

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Definately a good choice. As far as you question about the 811's. I have them in my Raptor 50 and they do fine. I am sure I could out grow them but for now they are a good servo to start with. I am flying around with my 811's just as well as the guys flying with the fancier servos. Go for it and have fun!!

By the way I love my Raptor 50.

Practice! It might be costly but it's the only way we get better!

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