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12-08-2004 08:51 PM  13 years agoPost 1
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I've never flown RC helicopter before....I've done nitro trucks and raced electric F1 cars (in Hawaii) but frankly grew bored with them both. I fly for a living (-64s) but am honestly ready for a most humbling experience learning to fly RC!

From my reading, I learned smaller is not easier to fly and a sim' is the way to go. I love learning how things operate; wish I could get the maintenance test pilot course...So, I'm looking forward to receiving the kit and putting it together. It's good to know how systems function to properly employ them.

Having said that, I'd appreciate advice. Thanks for having such a great site. DTV

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12-08-2004 09:08 PM  13 years agoPost 2
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Take your time, check everything twice the first time around. Don't be afraid to ask a million questions about setup issues. Practice on the simulator, and get your orientations down. Then relax, enjoy, and have fun!

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12-08-2004 09:52 PM  13 years agoPost 3
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Physics-nut is right. Take your time. Patience is the most valuble thing you can have when learning this. I speak from experience. I wanted to get into forward flight the second day I was flying. I crashed alot.

There is a guy at my club who has had a hawk for about a year now. He has NEVER crashed. He just takes his time and enjoys himself. And he does a pre-flight and post flight check every time he flies.

I'll be honest that I have sometimes been jealous of him, because he has never been aggrivated. Unlike myself who has beat myself up several times because I crashed, or I wasn't doing moves I felt I should be doing by now.

Good luck,

Scott

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12-09-2004 12:51 AM  13 years agoPost 4
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I did the same thing earlier this year except I bought the "ARF" which still takes a bit of time to put together with the radio etc. - the complete package.

From what I've learned:

1. Ask lots of questions, you'll get great help from this site. As well, phone Century / HeliWorld, they can help as well. I tended to email them for help.

2. Once assembled, get someone who flies these things to check it over and do a test flight. Although I had one other person help me out, the experienced person still picked up on a couple of things.

3. Fly the crap out of the SIM. I use G2 and started with the Heli with training gear but don't tend to use that Heli much anymore, I use others in G2.

4. As others have said, take it easy. I had my first 20 tanks of fuel without a crash, then got bored hovering and tried to do fancier stuff. I now know how to take apart and put the Heli back together - no problem. Up to 4 or 5 crashes.

5. I use the RotoPod as training gear. It has certainly saved me a number of crashes as it can absorb a hard landing that's off center without any damage to anything.

6. I just received my "floats" from Century. I'll be putting them on and dropping the RotoPod. They give a larger base and with the snow and ice on the ground should be better for flying in winter (below zero).

7. I'm currently putting a Raven 50 together. The experience from flying, crashing, setting up and repairing my Hawk has helped a whole bunch. Plus with the Hawk available, I'm not real rushed to get the Raven into the air so I can take my time.

Got Money? Send it to me, I'm a Heli Addict.

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12-09-2004 01:00 AM  13 years agoPost 5
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DTV,,, welcome to the Century page,,, you are really going to like flying, I used-to run RC cars and boats, the only time I had fun with the cars was when I raced and as for boats I had no one to boat with, but as for helis you will find you don't need to compete to have fun and you can find a challenge every time you go up,,,

I don't really feel a smaller heli is that much harder to fly than a lager one, yes~a larger heli is more stable, but a larger heli is more powerful, therefore it's quicker and faster, a quicker/faster heli can get you into trouble faster, so I feel the smaller helis are easier to control, I'll never tell anyone to start with anything but a 30 unless they have money to throw around, I say all this because of my own experience, I flew a Hawk SEv1 for a little over 2 months then I smashed it good, seized the motor up real bad, so I then bought a Falcon 50 kit, it took 2 months for me to get used-to the excessive speed of the 50, even at slow speeds I found myself trying to hold back the speed, it just want to go and go, I eventually got used-to it,,, well, get some sim time and you will be good-to-go, and ask what you need, we all will be glad to help,,, once again welcome to the Century page !!


Jim

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12-09-2004 05:45 AM  13 years agoPost 6
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Hi folks,

I do appreciate the thorough responses.

The Hawk just seemed like a good helicopter for the money. Based on my reading, there doesn't seem to be a huge difference between base .30 models from one company to the next. Is that true or am I on crack? Also, I like the intent of CCPM; a mechanical mixing unit just on a smaller scale.

So looking forward to receiving my shipment!

Thanks again,

DTV

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12-09-2004 05:57 AM  13 years agoPost 7
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Ya good choice on the Hawk, great first heli, I have one and still learing, I am almost through my first gallon, actually my first heli was a hummingbird(a real bitch to learn on), but I got some basic flying skills on it, now with the hawk, its got some upgrades, I can do loops rolls, hover inverted for a short while, nose in hover, and some inverted climbouts. Now need the cyclics a bit quicker, it doesn't rool quick enough, its got some Acell 3D paddels but needs more.


Will

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12-09-2004 07:35 AM  13 years agoPost 8
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wedge,,, you said you want a faster roll rate, put all long balls on the top plate of your swash, Century also makes "special" longer balls for your flybar-cradle (ask Steve H for the "special ball's" part number), the longer balls on the swash are medium length balls I think, this will help quicken up your cyclic some,,,

DTV,,, "doesn't seem to be a huge difference between base .30 models from one company to the next",,, well not much in dimensions and blade length, but the way they fly and how they feel on the sticks is different, as wedge said he is now ready for a faster cyclic, out of the box the Sport flies quite smooth and has a softer feel on the sticks than some helis which is good for a newbie, plus they are just plain fun.

Jim

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12-10-2004 06:34 AM  13 years agoPost 9
wedge

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Thanks wasp I will do that.

Will

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12-10-2004 06:59 AM  13 years agoPost 10
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if you are going to keep your Sport for a while buy the thrust bearing/6mm feathering shaft kit, this will allow a higher head speed, a higher head speed will quicken things up too.


Jim

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12-10-2004 07:51 AM  13 years agoPost 11
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I am running around 1700 now, and to get that my throttle curve is high, can I get much more out of a hawk, I got the os32, I am going to go to 30% fuel next gallon, and maybe get a MP2.

Will

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12-10-2004 04:46 PM  13 years agoPost 12
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Yes DEFINITELY get a simulator like Realflight G2 (or G3). This will allow you to crash without cost and it exetremely speeds up the learning process. It has taken me a hole year to get to forward flight WITH the simulator...without it, I'd probably still be hovering! And I have never crashed...(knock on wood).

I have had many problems with my hawk sport, all which I have fixed, so if you have any questions, give me a holler as I have probably encountered it during this year...

One piece of advice right off the bat...BEFORE you assemble your hawk, find the counter gear assembly (smaller big gear which drives a pinion gear that drives the main gear). You will notice it has a lot of up and down play...you may have to seperate the frames to do this, but remove the pinion gear from the top of the shaft and remove it. Now file a longer flat spot down in the shaft so that the pinion gear can be adjusted downward to eliminate the play. It will take a while as the metal is very hard. WHY you may ask? This up and down play will eventually lead to bearing failure and extreme glitching, which is not fun.

Also file the cooling fan notch on the right side to a 45 degree angle. This will keep your fan from breaking.

Sorry to bog you down while you're still a newbie

NewHeli

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12-10-2004 07:20 PM  13 years agoPost 13
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NewHeli is right about that drive pinion gear,,, and as for your head speed of 1700 don't go any higher until you get the thrust bearings, then you could go up to 1900, which is real nice on a 30.


Jim

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12-11-2004 12:55 AM  13 years agoPost 14
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If you're confused on how to file the fan, I took some pictures today, so I'll post them on Monday.

NewHeli

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12-12-2004 12:59 AM  13 years agoPost 15
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So did you get it yet?

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12-13-2004 05:07 PM  13 years agoPost 16
wedge

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whats the part number for the thrust bearing upgrade, or does the 6mm feathering shaft come with thrust bearings.

Will

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12-13-2004 07:14 PM  13 years agoPost 17
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The 6mm shaft comes with the thrust bearings (which also includes new radial bearings). I think the stock # is CN2221

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12-13-2004 09:26 PM  13 years agoPost 18
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Hi folks,

Boy, have I been fearing making this post! Call me a traitor but I had problems with my order so I canceled and, on friday, made a trip to a LHS. I bought a JR Venture. The LHS worked with me on price and made it very reasonable. I was humbled by ARF. Call it lack of experience but assembling, installing servos, programming the tx and leveling the swashplate among other things took me three evenings and a Sunday morning! RTFDMC (Read the directions more carefully) crossed my mind a couple of times!! Now that I've done it, I am sure my efficiency would improve.

I fired it up yesterday and was pleased with the engine and control response. I did forget to reverse the cyclic, though!

So, please forgive me! Thank you for the responses. I'll hide my tail between my legs and venture (no pun intended) over to the JR section...

DTV

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