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12-07-2004 02:12 AM  13 years agoPost 1
Big R

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helo everone

i was thinking of buying a throttle jockey rev max limiter if anyone is
useing one let me know how you like it.

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12-07-2004 02:47 AM  13 years agoPost 2
ilanna

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i have it run on my R50 and i am very happy with it.
need some adjustment for the first use but after that it’s working excellent

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12-07-2004 03:40 AM  13 years agoPost 3
rstacy

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I spoke with Len Sabato and he had nothing but good stuff to say about the performance.

Mine arrived today.

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12-07-2004 08:27 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Colibri

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I spoke with Len Sabato and he had nothing but good stuff to say about the performance.
But then again wasn't he the person that convinced Paul from Model Avionics that he needed to make this device?

Can he say something else now?

(I'm not saying it isn't any good!!)

Tim

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12-07-2004 02:38 PM  13 years agoPost 5
rspiegel

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Have some
I have one on my R50 and another guy in town here has one on a R30 And the work great. I had a gv-1 and the rev-max has more mid range pop to me it seems. I like the rev-max. I have a few flights on it but will get somemore in this weekend. Thanks Richard

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12-07-2004 03:59 PM  13 years agoPost 6
ShuttleSmasher

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If you want the Dogs, get a CSM Rev Lock.

Nothing its beter

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12-07-2004 04:12 PM  13 years agoPost 7
z11355

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Isn't that supposed to be the Dog's Danglies?

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12-07-2004 06:39 PM  13 years agoPost 8
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yep sure is

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12-07-2004 10:09 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Simon Brown

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oh my god.
Another thread as per the other one that has 5 thousand plus reads and 200 odd posts.

Alex goes on about how the revmax is better than govenors in responce and he hasn;t tried a bloody revlock.
Come on, forget the sodding slow, out of date gv-1.. Slow as hell
We have all studied that one. It is poor in the tacho and the lack of power in remarkable.
I used to use the gv-1 for a couple of years. In my opinion all it was good for was clipping off the over speed.. Nought else. So slow it lacked power and I got over speed.
Revmax will be alot better than that, and it better be!

And the tj pro.
Slower and the revlock.. ! FACT!

so stop saying it is better in power than a revlock.. You don;t know that!!!!!!!!!!!
Or don;t generalise !.. if you know it is faster than the govenors you have tried say so. like gv1 and tjpro!..
that is probably true.

And as adrian said and has been said.., the revlock uses the throttle curve and mixers. Is that sinking in or what!>
So if you have mixers they work!. they react to loads with the thumb!..

Hello, can we get that one sorted at last

If tjpor did that it did not do it anything like with the authority that it does on the new Revlock.
I have used tj pro for a year or whatever , since it came out.
In 3 machines.. solid

I change to revlock and gain power.

We have sceadu abuser in the uk who is getting a revmax from CSM, because MA clearly have not sent it as they promised him.
When he tests it he will study it deaply to make sure there is no over speed as that is what the revmax stops.. It better not over speed!

And he will look for underspeed under strong 3d bashing greif!.

We will hear. shortly!..

hang on untill you make our choice..!

the guy who started this thread, please read the other one about revmax and revlock!.

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12-07-2004 10:30 PM  13 years agoPost 10
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Hey it’s like a school reunion in here!

I bet every school had an “Alex”

He must be on mega commission to reply in a topic about Revmax/governor after what happened in the other forum.
The limiter has no "governor mode", as it never adds throttle
Adrian would have been talking about setting the throttle curves to 100% all the way across, you know exactly what he meant! This method was tested and proved to be the less responsive way of using it.

Yep Simon is right I phoned around to see if any parcel delivery companies had gone bust in the last week, or if any cargo planes have crashed, it does look like I might not be getting a Revmax to review as promised by MA. Strangely Adrian had the same thing happen to him.

I have contacted CSM because I know they have some test units so when one is available I will have a go.

Alex

Although you are now unwilling to try a Revlock, if I do manage to get a Revmax and start testing it, I am sure you would like me to be totally honest about what I find.

So when I get one I will start testing and anything I find would be more than happy to compare notes with you in public. So, any findings can be compared in public. If I am missing or doing something wrong you can tell me and like wise you have to be honest if I point anything out to you.

A very public comparison.

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12-07-2004 10:33 PM  13 years agoPost 11
Simon Brown

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the limiter works very well and does not suffer from governor lag hence more mid range power
as I put, don;t generalise!

revlock has no lag, it uses the throttle curve and mixers!

it lets them through!!!

am not arguing.. Am trying to get this "mixers and cuvres" make more power at mid range thing clear

It does, because revlock uses them too..
SO it is like the revmax yeh!!

Using them and sorting under speed as well and faster than any electonics has been able to do todate!

guy who posted this thread.. just read the other one..
all will become clear!

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12-07-2004 10:40 PM  13 years agoPost 12
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Looks like me and Ade will have to put this Rev Max on my machine and test it. I have not got a lot of fights in of late and I really don't want to spend time setting all my mixes and curves at the moment. I just want to fly.

But really we are putting ourselves in the same position as Colin if we don't test it.

Ade, I will be dropping my 90 in the shop on Thursday after I have been for the MRI scan. We will fit it and test it to the full.

But I want my Rev Lock back on it ASAP.

Gary

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12-07-2004 10:48 PM  13 years agoPost 13
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gary

thanks from me

Please work that heli until you get the 0 lag when abusing 3d.
I mean if you do soft basic stuff, we can expect no lag in any unit but the gv-1
So yeh, go for it.
Remember 0 lag at all, that is what is apparently possible.

if you can;t, Alexander (collin Bell) will be able to advice how he has achieved this, so you can get the very best from the unit.

I do think that inventing the wheel when someone else has done it to such a high level would be a waste of time for you.

indeed for Sceadu abuser and yourselves, being positive and informative, could Alexander give a quick run through of how he went about getting 0 lag setup.
Specifics on climb out testings, over speed limit setting levels etc, and percentage of throttle mixes would surley be of help..

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12-07-2004 10:51 PM  13 years agoPost 14
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I'd like to try a rev-lock, and yes I agree totally with your other comments.
Alex

So I am right in assuming we can both test the Revmax in pubic together, maybe in a new dedicated and properly titled topic?

SA

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12-07-2004 11:05 PM  13 years agoPost 15
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Not according to Ade.
Sorry Ade, alexander is using private casual chats with you and posting them publically, but I tend to beleive my own testing and the three units I have.
Also I tend to beleive Collin Mills at CSM and Russ who have worked together in the conception, creation, and flight testing.

If they say it reacts to the throttle signal then it does..
No way would I have the power increase and shear grunt better than the tj pro, if it didn;t

1/4 blade rotation in flight when metronomed with punch!.
Like in the tacho the blades are straight, as it punches over they go 1/4 rotation in the skytach and lock there and in about 1/4-1/2 second.
It moves and snaps to a stop..
Does it on all mine, We have tested Russ's at a flyin.. All were very impressed..
At 1950 rpm on the head and 1/4 rotation locked down in a split second is truley ground breaking.

No way could it react that quick and put it right so quick if it had to wait for lag. 10rpm lag and the recovery of such would not make 1/4 turn for a split second in a skytach screen when the head is hacking at 1950..

And if someone has a setup that is not as good that it gives a whopping 10rpm lag for a second, shame on you, it must lack noticable power.. NOT!

Ah whatever..

Mine must be special ones.
Revmax is so powerfull all get one. Alex says it is the 0 lag ultimate..
and so easy to set up too..

A bit more money, but hey 0 lag.. alex says so.

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12-07-2004 11:18 PM  13 years agoPost 16
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If the Rev Max truly has 0 Rpm lag I will eat the Rev Lock. Ade will want to see this so I guess he will be trying very hard with me to reach that magical setting.

Gary

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12-07-2004 11:22 PM  13 years agoPost 17
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*sitting back eating popcorn*

This is better than watching fear factor!



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12-07-2004 11:22 PM  13 years agoPost 18
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Sorry Ade, alexander is using private casual chats with you and posting them
I do think it would be best to keep the discussion in the "public eye" and not posting private conversations in the open forum for all to see.

From your private message to me (which I wont copy onto here) it does seem you doubt my ability to get the most from the Revmax. I have been flying for about 7 years now, and half of that was with ungoverned models. So I am extremely confident in my ability and although I don’t write reviews, I know I would be able to perform accurate testing and create situations and ask you to copy them to for you to comment. Hopefully we can test the Revmax through many situations together and post our findings in public, Not behind closed doors!

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12-07-2004 11:25 PM  13 years agoPost 19
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Hi Simon,

I think Colin belives that Revmax matches a conventional response system and thus it must have no lag.

We are however discussing what is actually seen at the blades.

The RevLock control system does not have a 10 RPM lag, this is what the average RevLock equipped model helicopter set-up sees at the blades due to engine lag and blade inertia etc.

Russ.

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12-07-2004 11:29 PM  13 years agoPost 20
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Hi Colin,

Now I am very confused!!!
From your private message to me (which I wont copy onto here) it does seem you doubt my ability to get the most from the Revmax.
You promote a product and tell everyone how wonderful it is and then when interest is shown; you indicate that they might not have enough ability to get the best from the unit.

So how experienced do we have to be before we are good enough to get the best from the unit?

Russ.

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