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12-06-2004 09:20 PM  13 years agoPost 1
flaming blades

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I am tempted between both the X-cell fury extreme or the raptor 90se. Bearing in mind i am a 14 year old 3d flyer who dousn't have lots of funds available what would be my best bet.

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12-06-2004 09:29 PM  13 years agoPost 2
F1 Carbon

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Stupid question but I'll take the bait.

I have a Fury and a Raptor 50V2.

The Raptor I have no fear of crashing as I know the crash cost can be affordable and takes my flying to a higher level

My Fury I have a fear of flying not because of the heli but that one dumb thumb and pop goes £250.

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12-06-2004 09:51 PM  13 years agoPost 3
RotorHead486

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F1!! Let me have a guess,..........for that money......... the boom and blades!!??

................Am i right??

I know what you mean, my fury has just tried digging a hole to hibernate for the winter, buggered if i know the cause of the crash but it's painfull!!!

This is the 2nd similair failure with this machine, last one was 6 months ago and found out it was a dodgy switch, thinking it is the same this time but still unsure.

I must say this though, i have approx, the same amount of meny invested in both my Fury and my Millennium but i feel more comfortable with the fury, trying new things etc... than i would with the mille, duno why??

Just got myself a R90 STD, just for pratting around with and have a dabble at night flying!! ya gotta ain't ya??

For laughs go with a Raptor, but for pure pride of ownership and and superb flying qualities go for the Fury, much better model, better quality allround, you know when you start building it that it's a high quality machine and it proves it even more when you fly it!!

That said, i do still see the pound signs flying around when the heli is flying, that's why i have got this raptor, cheap n cheerfull and gives me a sacrificial model to try new 3D moves with and generally advance.

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12-06-2004 10:12 PM  13 years agoPost 4
F1 Carbon

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RotorHead

Yep you're correct and thats just a slightly heavy landing .Touch wood I have not ploughed my Fury in since I built it a year ago but have had 3-4 engine flame outs which all resulted in perfect auto's but that knocks you back a bit and hence the need for a "best crash for your cash"heli.


Back to Flaming Blades who is a 14 year 3D flyer who has either a part time job to fund his hobby or parents who are prepared to bank role his hobby. If I was your parent I would make sure you bought the Raptor 90 as I would be more comfortable seeing my investment on the verge of digging a hole but if money is no object then the Fury is the only way to go.

Fully kitted out Fury in the UK will cost you £1500-£1600

Not sure of the Raptor 90 but I built and fly a 50V2 with full digi servo set up for £600-£700

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12-06-2004 10:42 PM  13 years agoPost 5
stevengerrard

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this is a topic that is coming up alot recently comparing the Raptor 90SE with furys,millenniums,vigors....etc

i flew millennium 2 for some time and really did like the heli...

eventually it came to an end and i decided on getting a Raptor 90 SE..

i was a little worried at first as i had raptor 60/70's before and was never that happy with them......

however the SE 90 is the best heli all round i have ever flown... its cheap to maintain,run and crash... the 3D flying capabilities are by far as good as any fury i have flown.. just use a decent pitch servo and good cyclic and also use V 95mm paddles with one or two changes to the set up and the heli is really good...

for me people that say the fury is so much better in 3D flight than the Raptor 90 SE is very unfair as i have given this heli some real hard abuse and it just comes back for more..it is very strong and very crisp in 3D flight and no unwanted interactions by CCPM...

not trying to start a war with all the fury owners as i think it is a very good heli but i do feel it is incorrect to always class the raptor 90 SE as a second rate 3D heli as this is clearly not the case..

i dont no what Thunder Tiger did but they have really hit the mark with the SE...


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12-06-2004 11:34 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Britflyer

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3d flyer who dousn't have lots of funds available what would be my best bet.
Get a Raptor 50 or a Sceadu EVO 50

Then spend all that money you saved on fuel.

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12-06-2004 11:47 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Saint728

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Bearing in mind i am a 14 year old 3d flyer who dousn't have lots of funds available what would be my best bet.
Your best bet is to fly what you have and save money until you can afford a bigger helicopter. Crashing a Fury Extreme or R90 SE is expensive. Also, they suck down twice as much fuel then the 50 size helicopters. Maybe, your parents will buy you one? Other then that, your SOL until you save money yourself.

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12-07-2004 04:55 PM  13 years agoPost 8
flaming blades

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I already have a mille 60 that i love should i just convert it to a 90.

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12-07-2004 05:02 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Spitfire_mk5

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Fury extreme and raptor SE both cost about the same (within 50 bucks).

So the question becomes how often do you crash badly (though its probably moot after you look how much it would cost to replace all that bling on the rappy) and which canopy do you like better?

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12-07-2004 05:58 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Kiwicocky

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It's just been said on another thread , by a wise man that in 99% of cases the heli ( any new heli ) has more ability than we do . That it is only the top 1 or 2 % of pilots that will ever consistantly push these heli's to their limits. So 'unless you're one of these top2% 'why risk the crash cost of a more expensive heli. A well setup R90 will outfly most of us.

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12-07-2004 06:37 PM  13 years agoPost 11
minimole

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Colwyn Bay, N. Wales, UK

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Hey, you are 14 yr old, and you do 3D!!!!

Wow, Im 14, and I cant even do nose in...

But ive only been flying a few months... How long you been flying for?
(sorry for being bit off topic, just a bit amazed...)

Duane

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12-07-2004 06:52 PM  13 years agoPost 12
flaming blades

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i have been flying for 1 year

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12-07-2004 07:34 PM  13 years agoPost 13
Rappy da Raptor

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Christmas is coming. Put it on ur Santa list

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12-07-2004 07:45 PM  13 years agoPost 14
KC

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WA

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I got started at 14 with a 60, when it crashed, I couldnt afford to fly helis again until I was 16

go easy on yourself man, you still got girls and cars in the near future.....r/c helis isnt half as fun heh heh.

fwiw, an average crash cost for either the r90 or extreme is 300-500.00.

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12-07-2004 08:16 PM  13 years agoPost 15
rckrzy1

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Crash costs is why I got a PMAX90, my Xcell now is relegated to
my night bird and see's little flying time. I have enough spares to keep it
going for a while but would buy another xcell.

PS I too have a raptor 50 for learning, trying new things.



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12-07-2004 10:53 PM  13 years agoPost 16
mcatech

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I woud have sold my soul at 14 to have a rc heli of any description
but seriously a fury, raptor 90se ,milli, etc are all fantastic helis to showcase your skills in front of crowd but if you want to learn better 3d
and to be a good pilot stick to a raptor 50 or similar 50 machine
they fly every manouvre the same and its affordable
a fury will do the same manouver with more precision and finesse
but this is only a reward once you have the skill imo
I would get a 50 and practise your heart out and when your 18 or so save some money and buy a fury or synergy or what ever is a good machine then and you will be rewarded for your patience
Cheers Michael

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12-07-2004 10:58 PM  13 years agoPost 17
mcatech

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I just read that you own a Mille 2 in a different post
WTF?
if this is the case then you already own one of the best 3d helis on the market fit the 91 to it and it will perform as good as ant fury or r90se
but my thoughts in the previous still would apply
just my opinion
Cheers

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12-07-2004 11:14 PM  13 years agoPost 18
RotorHead486

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If you already own a Mille2 then get a 90 banged in it and get sumat like R50 or R90 to practise with, thats what i have done.

I have a Mille, a Fury and the crash costs are painfull!!! Got a R90 to be my sacrificial machine, i love flying my Mille and my Fury, more so the Fury as i feel more comfortable with this machine and try new things with it but i still keep myself in the 'Safe Zone' with them!!

Get a Raptor and fly it to death and get the Mille pgraded to a 90, good thing about the Mille is that is does'nt take a helluva lot to upgrade it.

Get onto Skyline or Midland and they will sor you out with what you need.

Cheers!
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12-07-2004 11:17 PM  13 years agoPost 19
dragonlord

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iv wanted a heli since i was 14

my wife brort me a raptor 30 for my 36 birthday

today The stick came away from the radio
just as i went to fly around a tree.

heli parked in tree

was that fun getting it down

so off to the bank to spend some of the money id put away for a 90
in the summer

14 and buying a 90. I wish my parants were that well off when i was 14.

stick with what you got m8 and save your dads wallet.

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12-08-2004 01:13 AM  13 years agoPost 20
Ringding

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As most others said, get a Raptor 50. This is really quite cheap to crash, and you'll appreciate the larger machines a lot more later on.

A Fury at 14 - wow that's definitely ambitious Just hope your flying skills match the machine. OTOH there was a vid of 9 year old recently with a Vigor. So what the heck...

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