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12-06-2004 07:38 PM  13 years agoPost 1
johnny b

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What are the real differences between these models, in terms of size, weight, set-up, and aerobatic performance potential?

I saw on dee tee that there's a $50 upgrade to convert the CP to CPX, so I assume these two are very similar.

I'm obsessed with learning to fly 3D heli's like I fly 3D foamy planes. Some people have responded that the 2 is the best option for going this direction, and some have said the CPX is more agile and actually more 3D-suited.

Help?

BTW, this is really a preemptive question, since I've just gotten G2 and plan on another 4-6 weeks of sim practice before even attempting a real model. But if I can, I'd like to just get a good CP machine from the beginning, take it easy at first, but know I have a beast set-up for when I feel comfortable enough to push it.

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12-06-2004 08:30 PM  13 years agoPost 2
ifly65

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I am not sure about the differences, but I do know that you are in for a real hand full starting out with a micro. Do yourself a favor and learn on a nitro 30 or 50 size. The Evo 50 is a great machine. I have been flying helis for almost five years/airplanes about sixteen years, and I recently purchased an H2. They are soo much tougher to fly than they look on the videos within these forums. Though I am not a pro, I am no beginner on a nitro either. I have a log book full of flights/crashes and I can do 3d including inverted autos and piro flips. I find the H2 needs every bit of my brain power to fly it comfortably. The G2 is a great start, but no where near the experience or 'pucker' factor of a micro or nitro. The H2 is a great flying 3d micro, if you decide to buy one. Just a friendly suggestion.

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12-06-2004 08:47 PM  13 years agoPost 3
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See this link: http://runryder.com/t137653p1/

SBK

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12-06-2004 09:06 PM  13 years agoPost 4
johnny b

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James, thanks for the advice. Nitro is out for me, simply because of choice of flying site.

I'm averaging about an hour a day on sim, and will probably keep that up for another month or two before I start in on building a heli. I do notice that the sim nitro trainer is immensely easy to fly compared to a Picc Pro model I found on the net. I actually put 80% expo on everything on the PP, and it STILL was difficult to fly, so I hear what you say about these smaller models being a handful.

I'm leaning towards the Hornets because they are the only chopper I've seen that can do the type of flying I eventually want to be capable of doing, without the noise/exhaust that would be a problem with nitro, in a clear field of the size I have available.

I keep hearing about the Zoom and Trex, but I haven't seen the vid's yet to back up their performance. Also, the Trex looks heavy for its size, and I keep hearing that people are still looking for an adequate motor
set-up for 3D flying. At least the Hornet, weighing in around 12oz, sounds like it makes sense for the typical sized Hacker/Himaxx/Axi used on it.

I haven't been flying planes that long, only about 2 years, but I'm a very competant 3D flyer on foamy planes. It took me lots of hours of sim time and flying time to get my chops up. And since my field is down the road from me, I normally fly a couple packs a day average. I'm not rushing into heli's, I just know they're my next big thing.

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12-06-2004 09:16 PM  13 years agoPost 5
ifly65

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Thats cool, I hovered my nitro at a small park in the winter, when I learned to fly. Dont get the zoom or the trex if you plan on doing 3d. The H2 is much closer to a nitro kit....very trick kit with carbon and alot of upgrade options. Check out Dee Tee and Modefo for help and parts . They are both really nice guys and very helpful. I have three S&S head and tail upgrades from Dee Tee, and a Duzi upgraded main gear from Modefo. The H2 needs a ball in swashplate for sure to start out...and its cheap. Talk to Dennis at Dee Tee, or Wes at Modefo about the options there...you can add a ball to yours (I think) or just buy the swash with ball in it. I would suggest the S&S head block and tail hub also to start with....It seemed to save me alot of grief that I've read others have gone through....right away, because I started with those three upgrades first. My H2 flies very smooth.


Here is my H2:
http://www.flybuder.com/gallery/james-pics

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12-07-2004 01:19 AM  13 years agoPost 6
hornet dave

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as far as the different varieties of the Hornet, the Hornet CP-X is a slightly upgraded Hornet CP, which was a Hornet FP upgraded with the collective pitch head. The Hornet II has a lengthened and strengthened tail boom, different landing gear, longer blades, different canopy, but still shares many of the same parts. The Twister motor will only bolt on to the Hornet II as its diameter is too large to fit into the Hornet CP.

In practical terms, the H-II is better suited for the higher power afforded by brushless and li-po, and is much easier to get to work right at headspeeds suitable for 3D flying.

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