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12-06-2004 03:12 PM  13 years agoPost 1
Diverig

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Ok I am selling a camera on E-bay and I have an offer from someone to by it but here is my problem.
They are not in the USA and they want me to send it to Indonesia, they are willing to send me the check first and pay the shipping.

What problems are possibly on the horizon in this transaction?

Camera in here

Any help or advice is welcome

Thanks

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12-06-2004 03:18 PM  13 years agoPost 2
nickwap

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Its a scam DONT DO IT

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12-06-2004 03:22 PM  13 years agoPost 3
Diverig

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That’s what I am worried about I don't like dealing out of the US.

But on the other hand if they send me the check and I cash it how long should I hold it to make sure the funds go thru?

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12-06-2004 03:51 PM  13 years agoPost 4
Colibri

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Dealing outside of the US doesn't have to be a problem but for some reason I keep reading about Ebay scams from Indonesia.

I wouldn't do it. It is a bit harsh for the many good people from Indonesia but the risk is too high.
But on the other hand if they send me the check and I cash it how long should I hold it to make sure the funds go thru?
I've read that somebody (I don't know which country) had a check that cleared but after a couple of month was reported stolen and the bank just got the money back. You may contact your bank and ask what their policy is in these kind of situations.

PayPal is also a risk, if the money comes from a stolen creditcard you are out of your money and possibly also out of a PayPal account.

The only way you are sure you get the money and may keep it is if the other party sends it in the mail. Physical dollars. Of course this must be an insured shipment and in my country it is not even legal to do it. (Sending money by mail).

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12-06-2004 03:54 PM  13 years agoPost 5
Chavalo

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There's nothing wrong with dealing outside your country but be careful....in this specific case I see no problems...if they're willing to send you payment first, where's the problem? Cash it and send the camera...if the check is no good, don't send the camera. Obviously wait until you have cash in your hands...nothing less

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12-06-2004 04:13 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Diverig

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I've read that somebody (I don't know which country) had a check that cleared but after a couple of month was reported stolen and the bank just got the money back.
I have also read this some where and there is the problem if this offer is on the up and up I am sure they won't wait for a month or two for me to ship it.

Is there any other forms of money transfer that are not reversable and don't break any laws?

western union
Bank to bank

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12-06-2004 04:20 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Buzzin Brian

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I had someone try this crap on me from guess where. Yep you guessed it Indonesia. But it was through PayPal. All of the many "credit cards" that were used were from different names. So I got suspicous, and contacted PayPal about my thoughts. They froze my account, and then latter colsed it keeping everything that was in it. Odd when it was me trying to protect both of us. Good thing was though the turd didn't get the heli I though I had sold on Ebay. So I to say take a pass. No need for the headache.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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12-06-2004 04:28 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Diverig

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Ya this deal is starting to stink more and more the zip code they gave me dosen't mach the city and trying to look up the bussnes name they used (Artcamera DeepSea & Accessories) I found nothing.

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12-06-2004 04:29 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Buzzin Brian

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PASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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12-06-2004 05:00 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Diverig

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Well I spoke to western union and explained the deal to them if they send me the funds via western union and I pick up the money from there office it is a done deal there is no way to reverse it.

So I emailed the person back telling him to use western union to save time on the transaction but I am not going to hold my breath waiting for the money to wire to the local office.

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12-06-2004 05:44 PM  13 years agoPost 11
Mr.Green

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It's a scam. They send you a check or money order, and you go to your bank and can cash it. Since it can be cashed most people figure they are safe and send out the itmes. Then a week or two passes and your bank withdraws the money from you bank account becasue the check/money order was bad. I never sell anything out of the country for that very reason.

If the guy wants to wait for the check/money order to clear your bank before shipping, that would cover you. I wouldn't do it, but if you do be very cautious and make sure his check clears before you ship.

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12-06-2004 05:57 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Buzzin Brian

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I to do NO business out of the states for this same reason. PERIOD! And I myself only do business via Postal Money orders. If the buyer doesn't like it, they can buy elsewhere. No skin off my back!

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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12-06-2004 05:58 PM  13 years agoPost 13
Diverig

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Yep cautious is my middle name

The way I look at it the more great minds you put in a room the easer it is to find the backdoor that’s why I posted it here, as a hole we have seen just about every type of scam out there and what red flags to look for.

Up till now this person has been very fast in his reply to all my emails up till I told him to use western union now I get nothing .

If anyone has any more ideas keep them coming

To every one that has posted help already
THANKS.

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12-06-2004 11:41 PM  13 years agoPost 14
daggit

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Don't ship till you have CASH in hand..
yup, just make sure the check clears before you ship it. been there, done that, many times.

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12-07-2004 12:31 AM  13 years agoPost 15
Diverig

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Hello Pathogens

I take it you woke up on the wrong side of the bed or did the mis make you sleep on the couch,

I know not to ship with out having the money in hand. But as Mr.Green said
it’s a scam. They send you a check or money order, and you go to your bank and can cash it. Since it can be cashed most people figure they are safe and send out the items. Then a week or two passes and your bank withdraws the money from you bank account because the check/money order was bad
.

To make the question simpler for you, I should have asked what form of money transfer to use to avoid the above scenario.


As for
So we shouldn't see another one of these posts right???????
Yes we will probably see more of these posts, if not from me then from some one else.
That is what OFF TOPICS is for.

But don't worry we won't expect any help from you.

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12-07-2004 09:47 AM  13 years agoPost 16
thajoker

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fairfield ca

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i have delt with this myself i have a cashiers check for 7500 dollars it sounded fishy so i took it to my credit union and asked them if they would cash it they said yes.not being trusting i went to the manager and asked him to check it out for me .he called the bank it was from everything looked good all the info from the bank was right except the amount ....point being it looked so real they were going to cash it for me but if they did it would of screwed me when they realised it wasnt good so if you wanted to take one I DONT RECOMMEND IT at least have it checked out first they can call banks and verify a different amount of ways..DONT DO IT PASS IT UP AND DEAL IN THE US OR GET CASH IN HAND THEN SEND just my 2 cents

its better to be thought a fool,than to open your mouth and remove all doubt..

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