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11-08-2004 01:20 AM  13 years agoPost 21
flipped2left

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I have a couple of hawksports,one is going into a funkey long ranger fuse from century and yes it's a pod/boom heli going into it.
and the pucker factor rises not only from the fact if it crashes(9 times out of 10 it will) not only do you have to rebuild the heli but you also may have to do some fiberglass repair also.

but to the point! most scale airplanes have their engines located on the outside of the fuse,whether they are on the wings or on the front or in the rear (ducted fan/jet eng.) allows room for cockpit detail to the max where as most "scale" heli's do not! therefore we usually have to come up with other solutions to make them look more scale like and so the results are, make it look as scale as possible or go all out and redesign the mechanics so you can make it look as real as possible.

that in it's self is a rewarding and a good feeling experience,plus it shows how many of us are willing to make a sacrafice for this hobby.
and besides that regardless of how scale you want to be ........how about that eng. you are using up front/rear/on the wing? yep we have the same prob. there but usually you don't see our's.

if i got off topic here i apologise. ken

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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11-14-2004 07:45 PM  13 years agoPost 22
wurthless

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Indy huh,,,I was born and raised in Terre Haute,,,nice to see a fellow hoosier here,,,,

QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,

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11-18-2004 07:28 PM  13 years agoPost 23
Copter Doctor

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this is a very interesting topic. as mentioned before, it all different strokes for different folks. clearly everyone here fly the machines they do for the love of it. yeah i love watching the 3d stuff for a while, but it is the scale part i enjoy. it does seem however those who have never done the scale thing have lots to learn in that there is more than meets the eye. but that is what makes the world go round, differences in helis, flying styles and oppinions. if it were all the same, it wouldnt be any fun. i do know that i absolutely get mega high when people at a heli meet stop in awe to watch my scaler do its thing and then come up to ask all sorts of questions to no end and i can spend all day telling them all i know. at the same time, when i watch that zsabo kid do that atom ant thing with his rappy knee high off the ground, and then move it around wherever he wants, it amazes me. those who like to go swimming, do, those who dont,usually do something else do something else.

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11-18-2004 07:42 PM  13 years agoPost 24
AGRAV8

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MY opinion
short, sweet (well, for some) and to the point:

Guys N Gals......scale building/flying is like lovemaking:

The "fish head" pilots are there to pump and jump.....all it is to it is a bunch of parts, any of them fail and a fix is a phone call away. The scale folks enjoy the experience of it all....and the work they put in to the "relationship" can be a "high" that lasts and lasts.

As Emile said, it is all in what makes your experience a good one for you. Either way, your liable to "bust a nut" at the end of the day !

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11-18-2004 09:09 PM  13 years agoPost 25
Peter Wales

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Helicopters are a constant personal challenge. With 3D its like golf, buy a club and a ball and see how many strokes it takes to do the course, Your input is only in the selection of ball and club and how good you are with them.

3D is the same, buy your heli and radio and get to work. Your heli is the same as the next one. Walk down a flight line, and its Xcell, Vigor, Millenium etc, the only difference is the color on the canopy. Watching 3D pilots is about as exciting as watching golf. The top guys are great, but for the most, its BORING!! You fly to please yourself, not the crowd, cos even at a funfly, nobody is watching until you are near to crashing.

Scale is the opposite. You spend months building it and there is rarely another even similar never mind the same. Then you spend a lot of time making it fly and fly well. See them on the flightline and everyone has questions and is interested in it. Put one up in the air and everyone is watching. Then you have to try and fly it like the real thing, and if you think thats easy try it with your Raptor or whatever. Just because there are no violent maneuvers doesn't mean that the pilot isn't working hard to keep it smooooooth.

Personally I get as much pleasure from spending 18 months building something totally unique as I do from flying it and I have no fear of crashing it. Thats the best excuse I know of to start on another one

Peter Wales
http://scalehelicopters.org

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11-18-2004 11:31 PM  13 years agoPost 26
oldfart

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Nir, in response to your earlier statement "....a Piper cub. You can argue all you want but a scale piper cub is much closer in flight performance to the real thing than any "semi" scale heli out there"...Sport Scale can very well be the same in a Plank as in a Heli.


I left planks years ago, but I could take my scale F4U (even the numbers, letters, and markings were all painted on - no decals) and believe me, wide open it did not look scale and I had it trimmed to easily do an axial roll etc. - maneuvers not like scale flying but more like the flying one would do with a sport low wing weekend machine. But the challenge really was in making it do prototypical manuevers in as convincing a prototypical manner as possible.

A very good friend does the same with his award winning planks (from J3 to Ryan STA - contest scale gems all). Their relatively high power to weight factor allows them to do more then just scale flying. And most weekends he can be seen flying them like any non scale plank or he can also be seen flying them in a very contest like scale manner.

There is also a local top notch 3D 1/3 scale Extra 300 pilot who also has a 1/4 Sig scale clipped wing Cub with a big engine, who regularly does hovering torque rolls with it just a few inches off the deck. It surely does not look much like a full scale cub in that maneuver

And ditto for some of my sport scale helis too. For example my Century 46 powered Bell 47G2 can do nice rolls, loops, 540 stall turns and some very high speed passes (in fact I am sure that set up with a 3D curve it would also fly inverted and do some of the softer 3 d stuff) - not at all prototypical. But again there is a lot of fun from just flying it around doing prototypical stuff. And at funflys it gets more attention then any of my 3D or FAI pod and boomers ever do/did.

Phil

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11-19-2004 09:06 PM  13 years agoPost 27
Jamovich

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wow
What a masterpiece Dr Tim!! Beautiful Heli!

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11-19-2004 09:22 PM  13 years agoPost 28
Dr.Tim

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Thank You!

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