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11-06-2004 10:59 PM  13 years agoPost 1
anrkii

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so i build my evo 50, and i messed up on the throttle linkage, long story short, i had a hot start, and had to hold the head while i shut it off.

lasted less than four seconds, and it completely destroyed the clutch.

the damn clutch bell is $60 , and the shoes another 50!!!
thats $120 for a CLUTCH!

i could fix that on a raptor for twenty bucks!!

you will be seeing yet another evo50 in the classifieds soon.

to hell with hirobo.

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11-06-2004 11:14 PM  13 years agoPost 2
jerrythercpilot

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the damn clutch bell is $60 , and the shoes another 50!!! Thats $120 for a clutch
50 + 60 = $110.00

I paid $34.00 for the clutch. I never destroyed a complete clutch bell. Did it really need replacing or just the liner? How long did it run before you were able to shut er down? 4 seconds?? The old trusty pinch the exhaust tube works well to shut er down in and emergency.

I will tell you one thing about the Evos vs the Raptor. The clutch is much better designed and much more durable than the Raptors. I went through tons of Rappy clutches and one one Evo so far.I actually spun the start shaft from the clutch when I hydrolocked..damm 14 cell starters.

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11-06-2004 11:22 PM  13 years agoPost 3
shlm

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How much for your EVO?

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11-06-2004 11:27 PM  13 years agoPost 4
mastic

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whats quicker
pinching the exhaust or the fuel line?

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11-06-2004 11:28 PM  13 years agoPost 5
rob10000

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pinching the exhaust is far quicker

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11-06-2004 11:29 PM  13 years agoPost 6
dell17999

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really.?I crashed my evo last week when learning roll .the engine was still onfor several seconds with full power when hit the ground , the damage in that part was only the clutch liner, it went to grey powder, cost 0.9 usd

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11-06-2004 11:35 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Sparkhead

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Cyberheli prices-

Clutchbell 0412-118 $33.50 USD
Clutchshoe 0412-119 $25.00 USD

Big difference, I think you need to find a different hobby shop if they are charging you those sort of prices. Cyberheli aren't even a cheap store, if you can find someone in Hong Kong you can get the parts at least 1/3 cheaper than their prices. I would bang an email off to Radar or Waigo.

We have the same problem in OZ, example- tail case about $12 AUD landed from Hong Kong in 3 days. Aussie Hobby shop in next state $35 shipped and received in 7 days.

Sounds strange that you did so much damage in 4 seconds. Is the clutch just not disengaging or have you thrown a shoe? If you haven't thrown a shoe take it apart and you may find you can cut away the top lip which is catching the shoe.


Mick.

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11-06-2004 11:39 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Tailspinner

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ankrii,

The first time I started my Raptor, my brain couldn't jump the chasm from seeing clutch smoke to shutting down the engine. It was 'duh is something burning?' Fortunately I didn't burn up the clutch.

Did you make sure the radio was on?
Was the likage connected?
Next time just make sure of all your conections, settings and stick positions.Dont feel too bad, we've all been guilty of

S stuck
O on
S stupid

form time to time. For whatever reason you chose your heli, don't abandon it just because of a simple mistake. Learn from any errors you make. Just don't make the same ones twice. Good flying to you.

Are you on the list?

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11-07-2004 12:31 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Bungee

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If you had built it properly this would not have happened, I have the EVO 50, and it's a joy to fly...

Ben

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11-07-2004 12:48 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Sparkhead

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I've gotta admit that my Sceadu is the best 50 size choppa I've ever flown. I think secretly the other companies use it as a benchmark.

The Raptors cheap but so is the Sceadu if you get it from the right places.

I did a hot start on my Robbe Futura Royal because I selected my Futura SE by mistake out of my model memory. The clutch now binds a bit and seeing the clutch bell is over $100 i think I might sell all of my Robbe stuff because the Quick heli has a clutchbell 1/2 the price.


Mick.

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11-08-2004 01:41 PM  13 years agoPost 11
EChapkis

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Mistake
You made a mistake. So what.

Get a new liner and install it. Move on.

If you still want to sell the EVO, I'm interested.

Evan Chapkis Tampa, Florida

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11-08-2004 02:49 PM  13 years agoPost 12
mrNoodles

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Troll anyone?!

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11-08-2004 04:45 PM  13 years agoPost 13
blakka_1

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you must admit, that is a con, $110 for a 50 size plastic heli clutch bell & shoe, dam!, hirobo are having a laugh on our behalf.

other evo parts are cheap to purchase though, which is awesome for the quality that you get.

just dont go burnin out any clutch bell's or liners

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11-08-2004 05:18 PM  13 years agoPost 14
carcrasher

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like someone mentioned replace the liner and forget about it. the shoe and bell should still be good.

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11-10-2004 05:15 PM  13 years agoPost 15
funfly

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I once had a hot start and had to hold the head while i shut it off on my R50V2. It took me more than 5 seconds to react and shut it off from wide open throttle. Surprisingly, the clutch surived and worked as well as before.

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11-10-2004 06:03 PM  13 years agoPost 16
DS 8717

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Should have bought an Xcell,i have hot started mine a few times and the clutch is still good. Cost $00.00

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11-10-2004 06:33 PM  13 years agoPost 17
SPB

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That's waht I am enjoying with my Raptors. Spare prices are so low that you can even crash your heli if you are not in a mood for nice landing (That was a joke).

My biggest crash so far in my 50 cost me 180 Euros


Sotiris
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11-10-2004 07:57 PM  13 years agoPost 18
elviswl

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I recently replaced my clutch and clutch bell -- parts sourced from CHRC. I had a hotstart a while back and then the clutch started dragging, I ignored it for a while, and then the clutch broke. This happened because the clutch shoe had "sprung" because of the additional clearance, and was inevitable without replacing the clutch liner.

The clutch liner is cheap and easy to replace.

I find that the EVO and Raptors prices are pretty comparable except for the clutch/clutch bell and canopy.

The EVO50 is ~$100 more than the R50, so there must be some other consideration than price in the initial purchase.

Once you get the EVO back up and flying, I think that you will be happy with your initial decision.

BTW, how much were you thinking for the sale of you EVO


-elvis

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11-10-2004 08:06 PM  13 years agoPost 19
Gary

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Ankrii,

I know how you feel. This past Sunday I had my Fury Tempest ready to fire and somehow I hit the idle up and didn't know it. What a joy that was when it cranked and goes wide open. It smoked the clutch. The Tempest is probably the most expensive machine to fix. What a bone head move on my part.

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11-10-2004 10:44 PM  13 years agoPost 20
Shagga

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Anyone notice a general movement away from Skidoo's ?
No.

On the contrary. If you go to the latest funflys (Charmouth in Oct). I would say there were as many, if not more, Sceadus as Raptors. Whereas a year ago there were more Raptors.

People are starting to find out how good Sceadus are. Ask people who have flown both and they always say Sceadu flies better, rarely Raptors fly better. Raptors only wins the 'parts are cheaper' argument.

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