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11-04-2004 05:59 PM  13 years agoPost 1
ValRussia

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My apologies for bad knowledge english)

The Dear colleagues, has here is wanted to gain itself helicopter.
I only study RC helicopters and flights on helicopter.
Stopped at choice on helicopter Spirit Pro from Robbe.
Choose Spirit Pro advised the master

For given helicopter needs whole on-board electronics Here appeared the questions.
Write the answers to my questions please. Is it As far as possible argued.

- An Engine. Advise - Hacker S40 9L.
Questions:
1. Possible his(its) install on given helicopter
2. What good and bad sides of this engine?
3. What, your opinion, the best engine for given helicopter and why?

- A Regulator.Hacker, Master-40-B-Heli.
Questions:
4. What good and bad sides of the motor of this regulator?
5. Can be, will advise regulator more best

- A Batteries. Kokam 1500 ìÀ÷, 3S2P
6. What good and bad sides àêêó this company?
7. What, on your opinion, batteries will better approach under motor Hacker S40 9L?

- Servo. Futaba 3001.
Questions:
8. What good and bad sides these servo? Will Approach they for beginning pilot?
9. On your opinion, what servo will approach better and why on automaton of the slanting and on tail?

- A Gyroscope. Futaba GY240 Questions:
10. What good and bad sides given gyroscope?
11. On your opinion, what gyroscope will suit better for beginner on said helicopter and why?

- An Equipment Hitec Eklips 7.
- A Receiver. From kit Eklips 7. QPCM, 7 channels.
Questions:
12. Will Approach? Or needs other receiver? What?

Help please with choice, dear colleagues!!!
Well, much want the helicopter orderly equiped with for beginning
Thank you in advance for answers to my questions.

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11-04-2004 06:52 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Sparkhead

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Servos- 3001 to BIG, need 4 Hitec HS 81.

Hitec Eclipse 7 and pcm receiver OK.

Gyro- GY240 OK.

Battery- may be a little bit small, maybe get THUNDER POWER 3s2p 4200 mAh.


Mick.

Robbe & Futaba.

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11-04-2004 07:12 PM  13 years agoPost 3
ValRussia

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To sparkhead.

Thank you for answer

Servo Hitec HS 81 will it is enough on tail screw on velocities?

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11-05-2004 03:50 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Sparkhead

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You can use a GY240 with the HS-81 and it works reasonably well, but if you want the ultimate setup you can use a GY401 with the S9253 combo. There is a lot of people using the full sized servo on the tail.


Mick.

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11-05-2004 06:04 AM  13 years agoPost 5
ValRussia

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To sparkhead

Thank you. I as beginning pilot will it is enough to use GY240 with HS-81.

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11-05-2004 12:42 PM  13 years agoPost 6
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I think the GY240 and HS-81 will be good for learning. If you have someone you know that knows how to set it up for the first flight this would help alot.

I have never used or seen anyone using the motor and speed controller you are asking about. So I can't help you out on this question. I have tried the Kontronik Twist 3700 and Jazz 40-6-18 and this is a good setup for beginner to intermediate flying. If you use the Twist setup you would need to by the pinion set that fits the 3.18mm shaft and use the 14 tooth pinion.

If you have a look at a site called rchover.com you will find alot of good information and the products that are sold on this site have been tested to make sure they work properly.


Mick.

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11-09-2004 09:39 PM  13 years agoPost 7
ValRussia

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To sparkhead:

Thank you for answer.
I use GY240 and HS-81.
I think that I shall help to install it is correct this on my helicopter.
The Truth, some speak that HS-81 slow for tail rotor.
The Truth this? Or on initial stage of the education this will not play important dug?

In the same way many experienced pilots I advise to use this pair: Kontronik Twist 3700 and Jazz 40-6-18 and use the 14 tooth pinion.
I shall install this on my helicopter.

With rchover.com can be one difficulty - they can not work with Russia.

Once again thank you.
Good luck!

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11-10-2004 03:45 AM  13 years agoPost 8
Sparkhead

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I think there ar alot of people using the GY240 and HS 81 on tail and are pretty happy. If you are learning I can tell you that the tail will spin plenty quick enough with this combo.

Good luck and have fun.

If it is too difficult to order from RCHover at least you can use the products that they use as a guide.


Mick.

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11-10-2004 04:18 PM  13 years agoPost 9
ValRussia

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To sparkhead:

Thank you for answer.

Shall try. Its experience - a most best teacher.

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11-10-2004 09:12 PM  13 years agoPost 10
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DO NOT use GY240 and HS 81 on the tail - I had very poor results with the setup.

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11-11-2004 04:53 AM  13 years agoPost 11
Sparkhead

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From reading alot of posts on RR I thought it was a good combo

What problems did you have, and what setup are you using now?

I originally went for the GY401 with a HS-81 and had problems but was told that the GY240 worked better.

Looks like you may have to post a specific question about this Gyro setup ValRussia.


Mick.

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11-11-2004 01:49 PM  13 years agoPost 12
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GY240
Tail control was lousy with HS81 and gy240 almost to the point of unusable. My HS81 had metal gears - it could have worsen the response time compared to plastic gears, so your results may have been better.
I've replaced HS81 servo with Airtronics 94145 and tail control became much better. I am still using GY240 now and it's not a problem but the tail is not very solid on a windy day. As initial investment I think it will be a good idea to buy GY401 for little bit extra instead of GY240.

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11-11-2004 06:55 PM  13 years agoPost 13
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I personally had alot of greif trying to get the GY401 to work properly with a HS-81. In the end I said stuff it and put the S9253 on it and now am very happy.


Mick.

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11-12-2004 01:13 PM  13 years agoPost 14
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Yesterday, for the love of experimentation I have put Futaba's 9253 servo on tail and noticed improvement over Airtronics 94145.
The biggest difference appears during inverted hover - 9253 holds direction better, while with 94145 I have to keep making adjustments.

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11-12-2004 06:45 PM  13 years agoPost 15
ValRussia

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Dear colleagues,

So you will advise, coming from your experience?
I quite got mixed up.
What servo better to use with gyroscope GY240?

Thank you.

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11-12-2004 07:32 PM  13 years agoPost 16
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I would still go with the HS-81 personally. You are only learning so you don't really need a super fast tail. If you don't like it it is only a cheap sevo anyway and you will just end up with a spare one for your swashplate.


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11-12-2004 07:41 PM  13 years agoPost 17
ValRussia

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Thank you.
Choose on 81 servo, as the best for my budget and as for beginning pilot.

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