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11-04-2004 05:46 PM  13 years agoPost 1
harrymc

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I'm noticing with the pictures posted, that many of you are using different gyros than recommended. I have a Cirrus MPG-6 Super Micro Gyro. The pictures many of you posted have much larger gyro's mounted on the tail. So, what the scoop? Will the gyro I have work fine? Do the gyro's you use work better, and if so, why? Also, what about mounting location? Instructions show the gyro I have, mounted on the frame sideways, yet the pictures I see of your gyros show them mounted on top. What's the difference? How do you adjust the gyro and how do you know if you need to adjust the gyro? I'm lost!!! 800 dollars in, and still haven't flown!!!!!!!!!

I'm such a sucker!!!!!!!

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11-04-2004 05:59 PM  13 years agoPost 2
copperclad

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hi
ive been flying mine with a gws p03 gyro ( cheapo! ) and its fine if you like to fly the tail , seems like most others are running helli hold gyros ( futaba 401 ) as it lets you fly without worrying about the tail as much , you can learn to hover with just a piezo gyro just fine and upgrade later as you learn

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11-04-2004 06:05 PM  13 years agoPost 3
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hi
i have a csm light weight 200 its a cheap heading hold and works ok

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11-04-2004 06:05 PM  13 years agoPost 4
CRAZYKEV

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Harry,

The gyros you see mounted on the tail are futaba 240 or 401 gyro which most are using and I will be changing to. If you look in my gallery, you will see my gyro is a csm-200 mounted on the side with no case shrink wrapped. It isn't the worst gyro, but I am gathering that the 240 is a better gyro. I am not familiar with the cirrus gyros, but if you have it then try it out. I would recommend that you at least get a heading hold gyro which I don't know if the cirrus is.

If you are going to exchange your cirrus then I would recommend you get the Futaba 240. The 240 is the same as 401 except you don't have remote gain adjustments which I don't think you will use anyway.

Kevin

P.S. - Don't give up man! I know you said you fly 3D with planes so you will love the Shogun once everything is hashed out.

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11-04-2004 06:10 PM  13 years agoPost 5
Nyala

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Hi Harrymc

It all sounds complicated but in reality its not so bad Many different gyros will work on the zoom. The locations also vary from heli to heli. On the tail boom is a good place for the big ones. Smaller thin ones get stuck to the side of the chassis. Some people mount them in the battery tray..etc. Some of the bigger gyros have heading lock functions but its not a must for beginner flyers. Mount your gyro so that its far away from the ESC as possible and balance the heli so that the C of G is correct. You should adjust the gain setting on the gyro so that the tail keeps steady and does not wag . Then go fly ....its FUN

This heli is a good one, your 800 $ are well spent !

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Mark

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11-04-2004 06:23 PM  13 years agoPost 6
CrashExpert

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The Futaba GY401 works superbly well on the Zoom.....if you are worried about the weight you can always decase it.....but I am running the GY401 mounted on the tail and do not find the weight a problem at all.



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11-04-2004 06:33 PM  13 years agoPost 7
fbret

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Stupid beginner question:
Do you have to mount the 240 horizontally? Can it go vertical like the shogun instructions suggest?

Thanks

-Fred

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11-04-2004 06:40 PM  13 years agoPost 8
CRAZYKEV

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The 401 and 240 go horizontal and the csm-200 goes on vertical on the side of frame.

Kev

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11-04-2004 07:10 PM  13 years agoPost 9
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I am really satisfied with my MS-44 gyro.

regards

Corrado

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11-04-2004 09:00 PM  13 years agoPost 10
iskoos

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GY401
If you are going to get GY240 or GY401, make sure to get GY401.
The differences between 240 and 401 is NOT only the remote gain.
They both have the same dimension and look. 240 is slightly lighter but you can not tell the difference.
Yes, 240 doesn't have remote gain and this can be a hassle if you often tinker with gyro gain. Think of it; If you get 240, each time you want to change the gain, you need to go up to your heli with a screw driver and change the gain manually as opposed to doing that through your radio. I wouldn't give up on this comfort to save couple bucks.
In fact, you can get GY401 with the very same price of GY240. If you go to heliproz, they listed GY240 $119.99 and GY401 $139.99 It shows $20.00 difference but if you call them you can get 401 for $119.99 What they do is that they split the GY401 and S9254 combo packages and sell the gyro unit and the servo seperately. That way you pay less for 401.
If I am not mistaken my friend paid either $109.99 or $119.99 for his GY401.
Plus, 401 has limit function and can work with digital servos. 240 doesn't have these. Yes, you don't need digital servo function since there is no digital micro servo yet, but if you want to use this gyro for your other helis in the future, there you will have everything in one.

Good luck.

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11-04-2004 09:14 PM  13 years agoPost 11
CRAZYKEV

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Thanks Iskoos,

I didn't know all the differances between 240 and 401. Maybe I should be gettin' 401. I have a Berg 5 dsp II and don't have the extra channel available so can I just not use the remote functions until I get my 770 pcm reciever? I am using JR10X radio

Kevin

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11-04-2004 09:27 PM  13 years agoPost 12
flyjet747

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GY 401
Yes, just as Iskoos pointed out, I paid $109.99 for just GY 401 by itself. You must call Heliproz in order to receive this price. Ordering it on their web-site alone will not accomplish the discounted price.

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11-05-2004 02:04 AM  13 years agoPost 13
harrymc

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Thanks for all the replys! Good info, and believe me, I need it!!!
I did notice that NO one seems to be using the recommended gyro (per the instructions) So, is there a problem with the Cirrus MPG-6 Super Micro Gyro? Also, what does "head locking" do for you?

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11-05-2004 03:19 AM  13 years agoPost 14
vinrx7

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heading lock or heading hold aka "HH" gyro basically maintains the heli's tail or heading. You dont have to worry about crosswind or the torque from the motor. the direction the tail is in when you stop giving inputs to the rudder is the direction it maintains on its own. then it is overridden when inputs are made again. so......you should technically be able to hover the heli and not even make any inputs to the tail and the heli should keep the same position of the tail or nose on its own untill you make a change by giving input then again it holds the position that you left it in again. and so on.......
im not the greatest teacher but does it make a little sense?

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11-05-2004 03:42 AM  13 years agoPost 15
harrymc

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Thanks for the reply!
What does a regular gyro do?

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11-05-2004 04:00 AM  13 years agoPost 16
vinrx7

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read this and it will explain in more detail. very good info!
http://www.raptortechnique.com/gyroconfusion.htm

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11-05-2004 04:53 AM  13 years agoPost 17
harrymc

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WOW! That was great! That link was exactly what I needed. You guys are a VERY cool bunch! I've enjoyed hanging out here for the last couple of weeks. You've all been VERY helpful, THANKS!!!!!

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11-05-2004 05:00 AM  13 years agoPost 18
vinrx7

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glad it helped you out. Let us know how it goes.

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11-05-2004 12:34 PM  13 years agoPost 19
CRAZYKEV

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Vinrx7,

That gyro info was really cool! I have a question about doing 3D tricks. Do most guys keep the heading hold on or use standard gyro function?

Thanks,
kevin

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11-05-2004 01:05 PM  13 years agoPost 20
Corrado-Italy

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heading hold all the time for me, from taking off to landing.

regards

Corrado

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