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11-06-2004 07:38 PM  13 years agoPost 21
Cougar

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*oops* I just clicked send! *oops*

The following items will ship from Champaign, Illinois
Estimated Arrival Date: Between 11/11/04 - 11/15/04
LXFFG1 Kyosho Caliber 30 ARF w/o Engine In stock, shipping 1 $269.99
LXVA43 Futaba GY401 Gyro w/SMM Technology In stock, shipping 1 $139.99
LXHEX0 O.S. .37 SZ-H Ring In stock, shipping 1 $149.99
PC7150 $50 Promotional Discount In stock, shipping 1 $50.00-
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Total Current Charges: $ 509.97
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11-06-2004 08:24 PM  13 years agoPost 22
Cougar

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DAVE
Could you Please email me your Phone number again,
I lost it already....*sheesh*
Sorry
Jeff

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11-07-2004 01:31 AM  13 years agoPost 23
dkshema

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Just PM'ed you the phone number.

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11-10-2004 12:41 PM  13 years agoPost 24
rcheliheaddaz

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I dont mean to run anyone down but some comments here made by a certain individual are a little missplaced, If not biased.
I read this persons sight and found that some of the rantings about the caliber were easily linked to the fact that after crashing, Time and care was not taken in checking for damaged parts.

I now own a Caliber and have had the raptor also I started with the nexus, I fined that the caliber is not only a lot quieter but out of the box a much more advanced peace of Kit than most 30 heli's.

What I am trying to say is if you have had a bad experience with any heli. Look to yourself first, Is there anything that you have neglected to check or do to cause your problem. I would never put anyone off from buying the heli they set there mind to. Especially if I knew that there was really nothing wrong with it. The Caliber is an exellant choice of heli, As is the Raptor. Whichever you fly, Be proud that you can to start with, We all enjoy this sport, No matter what your budget or skill level.

People that got nothing better to do than run anothers choice of heli in to the ground, Realy P*** me off.

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11-10-2004 01:30 PM  13 years agoPost 25
cjw

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I dont mean to run anyone down but some comments here made by a certain individual are a little missplaced, If not biased.....

People that got nothing better to do than run anothers choice of heli in to the ground, Realy P*** me off.
Take it you're talking about me.

At no point did I run down the choice of heli. I expressed my views of the pros and cons of the two, having owned both. In particular comparing the Caliber 30 v Raptor 50.
I've owned both, and in my opinion the Raptor is a better heli than the Caliber, mainly in terms of quality. The Caliber frame flexes a lot, especially around the radio tray without adding stiffeners. The head develops slop very very quickly (as does the Raptor) so it won't be long before your looking for an upgrade. Not big issues, sure.

The Caliber is a good heli, but, as I said, given the choice again I'd go for the Raptor 50 as a first ship.
And my last post:
Cougar, You'll have a lot of fun with the Caliber. I did
You then....
What I am trying to say is if you have had a bad experience with any heli. Look to yourself first
I was not criticising the Caliber due to parts failing. And in my posts here have not even mentioned it. I am well aware that my Caliber had problems most likely due to stressed componant following a crash and as such decided to switch to a Raptor 50 rather than re-repair the Caliber. I did NOT have a bad experience with the heli....

From my web site:
This time the crash took out most of the heli, as you can see below. I think the cause was the L lever breaking during the flight as I suddenly lost most of the control over the collective and cyclic; the plastic had most likely been weakened from previous crashes. Shame because she always flew very steadily. Anyway, that's it for this bird, not worth replacing the parts and I am going to get a Raptor 50 as my everyday heli for trying out new things.
Note that I say it was a shame because the Caliber always flew steady!


Your views of the benfits of the Caliber over the Raptor are biased, based upon your experience as are mine the other way around. However I do not find that your difference of point of view P***es me off. What does is your last sentence and your view of anyone who would criticse the Caliber POS (as you put it in a previous post with a similar rant)

Clive

http://www.cjwoods.com

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11-10-2004 11:31 PM  13 years agoPost 26
rcheliheaddaz

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Like I said I did not wish to mention anyone by id.

But as you so abviously knew who I was refering to I will oblige you.
Where in any of my posts did I say what you say I said?

Quote: What does is your last sentence and your view of anyone who would criticse the Caliber POS (as you put it in a previous post with a similar rant)

This is just another case of lack of attention to detail/wording.

But if I was to take your posts apart I could pull plenty of derogatory comments about Calibers. You even blame one of your crashes to bad parts.
I sent you a message on your web page guest book to point out that the part in question was one that you would have stressed and could easily have not spotted. As according to what you wrote in your log you did not check it. I could go on but whats the point.

If you are going to Quote me at least get it rite. The last time I said a simular thing was also because Poeple have gotten too used to slagging off Kyosho heli's. This is not justified at all. Get used to it.

I rest.

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11-11-2004 02:22 AM  13 years agoPost 27
dkshema

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I read CJW's website. And came away believing that he gave his Caliber a good shot and liked it. He had nothing derogatory to say about the chopper, even had some good things to say.

He crashed it twice, the second time decided he wanted to try a Raptor. No big deal.

There's really no need to let this thread degrade into a a third grade level name calling game. Especially when the game has absolutely nothing to do with the original post.

From the way many of the previous posts on RR have taken a nasty turn for no reason, I fear this is going to be a long, long winter.]

For what it's worth, Cougar -- remember him (he started this thread) -- has purchased a Caliber 30, and just received it today.

At this point, I don't think anyone's going to change his mind on which chopper to buy. I've got two Calibers, live fairly close to Cougar, and I believe he's going to have a ball with his Caliber. I'll be able to give him some help. with getting it set up. He's NOT new to helis either, and has owned and flown quite a few, although it was many years ago.

Dave

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11-11-2004 06:05 AM  13 years agoPost 28
wheelnet1

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Just a little advice, if you got the OS 37, don’t use the stock muffler. It’s not big enough for the 37. It works fine on the 32 if you put some holes in the baffle, but not on the 37. I had the stock muf on my 37 until I got the Toki 40 muffler and can I say WOW what a difference. Just a suggestion.

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11-11-2004 06:35 AM  13 years agoPost 29
cjw

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Thanks dhshema.

rcheliheaddaz,
Quote: What does is your last sentence and your view of anyone who would criticse the Caliber POS (as you put it in a previous post with a similar rant)

This is just another case of lack of attention to detail/wording.
Not lack of attention. This was refereing to your last diatribe on the subject in an earlier thread here:

http://runryder.com/p844143/?highli...headdaz#p844143
However I am a poor person that can bearly afford to enjoy this hobby as it is so I am one of those that use the Kyosho POS as it is fondly known by lots on here, So my favourite is Kyosho the POS model that nobody wants. Exept poor little me.

What a pathetic question that yet again is a way of showing the class devide rather doing any good for anyone. Look we all have a good idea of which heli is great and which is not. I own one that is the later but now you know that, Is it going to help somebody else? NO
As someone else said in that thread. Simmer a bit

I have no problem with difference of opinions, but no need at all to say people P*** you off for disagreeing with, which by the way I don't particularly. The Caliber - as I said many times - is a good helicopter.

Try paying more attention in future

THE END!

Clive

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11-11-2004 01:06 PM  13 years agoPost 30
cal.30JR

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Have you people ever heard of using pms?
If you want to post up your opinion that's fine, but when you want to start hijacking the authors thread, that is just wrong.

As for caliber 30, I just purchased one myself along with the JrXP6102 and a Gy401.
My first heli and 2 weeks into, I am doing great. There were some other stuff I needed as far getting me going.
I went over too century to stock up on some gages, power panels, and some nicknack's. I am more of a supplies freak, you can never have too much.

Cougar, good luck with your heli seems like you got some good people where you live. It's great machine

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11-11-2004 04:05 PM  13 years agoPost 31
rcheliheaddaz

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One last time show me where I say the (CALIBER POS)
I said KYOSHO and if you read the thread you would see I was refering to the nexus and being sarcastick.
SO wined your neck in.

I defend Kyosho products. (Aggresivly).

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11-11-2004 09:23 PM  13 years agoPost 32
d-n-jensen

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here here. I agree the Kyosho and the caliber especially are the best POS heli's on the market.

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11-12-2004 12:43 AM  13 years agoPost 33
Cougar

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Thanks Again Gang For your support!
I Also found out today MY NEW Futaba 9CHPS has arrived
at tower today With 4 9252's and 1 9254 for the Tail
It will ship soon. There is a limited supply if anybody needs one.

It looks like a great Heli, There are some thing's I need to fix
like the fly bar being off a little bit.. yadda, yadda ,yadda.. not really much to fix tho.. dkshema (dave) has been wonderful and took a bunch of pics for me and a LONG email describing stuff. and WOW thats a great help! (and great guy)(thanks) one day we will meet up!

wheelnet1 ,
I was wondering about the Toki 40 muffler where do you get that>?>
and drilling holes makes the Original muffler louder?

AGAIN THANKS EVERYBODY!
Jeff
(and all I want to do is fly a Caliber for now, maybe I will try
another heli in a year or so ~S~ )

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11-12-2004 12:45 AM  13 years agoPost 34
Cougar

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cal.30JR
WAY TO GO BRO! Have fun! ~S~ your HOOKED!
Jeff

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11-12-2004 11:57 AM  13 years agoPost 35
rcheliheaddaz

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Fantastic you will have a blast with your heli, The kit you have to accompany it will ensure that you get the best from it. I hope you have many gallons of fun and heart pounding exitment with it.

As for upgrades, If and when you decide they are needed there are plenty available now and they are becoming easy to find. Even here on RR you can find some nice kit.

Good luck and Happy flying.
Darren.

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11-13-2004 03:34 PM  13 years agoPost 36
wheelnet1

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Cougar

Sorry it’s taken so lone to get back to you the last couple of days have been nuts. As for the holes in the muffler, If you’ll drill 4 to 6, 3 to 4mm holes in the stock muffler, you’ll get a nice increase in power on an OS32. You do have a slight increase in noise but not too bad. I don’t suggest using the stock muffler, even modified, it’s just not big enough for the OS37. I suggest the Toki 40 muffler. It fits without modifications, creates a lot of power and it’s inexpensive. There has been quit a few threads about it, if you want to do a search. I got mine at MRC. Here’s a link. http://www.modelrec.com/products/rc...nes/product.asp

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11-13-2004 04:22 PM  13 years agoPost 37
TMoore

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Here is a few things to add to this discussion that might make a difference in how the Cal runs.

When you install the clutch and fan assy, use the OS Crank locking tool. You will need to have someone mill out the slot on the tool to accomodate the 37. The conrod boss is a little bigger than the 32. Glue the ball bearings into the clutch bell with some epoxy. It doesn't take much.

You don't need loctite on the crank if you tighten it up properly and it does have to be tight. I'm confident that Dave can help you with this.

When you spool up the head give the system time to get everything up to speed. I've seen a lot of new pilots that just jam the throttle up and then watch everything slip until it all catches up. You wonder sometimes why the auto bearing need to be replaced.

Like wheelnet1 says, the stock muffler will work but it will rob power. Don't worry, there will be more than enough to fly the machine.

Glue the blades roots on with epoxy or Medium CA. Don't skip this step. It makes a difference.

Use a little RTV Copper Seal on the muffler flange. This keeps exhaust leaking to a minimum and will improve the interior of the canopy vis a vis the amount of oil thrown around.

Make the tail belt tight enough to transmit motion to the tail rotor but loose enough reduce the load on the engine. IOW, a tight belt will rob power from the engine. On the Cal, the tail belt tightness makes a huge difference in how the machine flies.

Just some tips from the peanut gallery out here.

TM

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11-13-2004 05:28 PM  13 years agoPost 38
Cougar

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TMoore,wheelnet1
Thanks for the new tips.. I did today drill 6 holes 3/16 and I will be
breaking the engine in on the bench for about 4 tanks I guess this
weekend,

Another Question I have is What happened to the good old
days where we all used to use the PISTON LOCK?
(I have one of those still seem to work very well)

This will not work on the Caliber? I must use a Shaft Crank?..
Anyways thanks again for your support! you guys are
Great

Jeff

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11-13-2004 06:18 PM  13 years agoPost 39
Clayman

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If u use a piston lock will might punch a hole in the piston. But some people use it I personaly wouldn't get the crank lock tool u have to reef on that clutch hard to make it tight.

If U Don't Fly U Don't Try

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11-13-2004 06:33 PM  13 years agoPost 40
Supertoyz

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I bought a Caliber 30 as my first heli and love it. The only reason I'd every buy anything else would be to add to the collection, I'd never get rid of the Caliber.

That being said I have done a fair amount of tweaks, modifications and upgrades..........I think it looks pretty awesome and far from stock. Someday when I have a minute I'll post some pictures. Out of all I've done to mine the best mods have been:

Raptor 60 Skids - Stock skids now look silly in comparsion
Raptor 30 V2 Canopy with Rotor Graphics Decals (never even trimmed out the stock canopy)
Maverikk Fiberglass Blades - Never used the wood ones.

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