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11-03-2004 08:13 AM  13 years agoPost 1
pilot74

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I want to go out and try Tic tocs next time im out flying. i can do them quite okay on g2
How do they feel in real life as apposed to the sim ?

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11-03-2004 09:04 AM  13 years agoPost 2
Drunk Monk

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I found that you really have to bang the pitch when doing it for real whereas the sim seems to have too much power. Start by going too far, almost to inverted then back to the right way till you get used to how much power you need then shorten them.


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

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11-03-2004 09:44 AM  13 years agoPost 3
Adam Crane

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Try also to lead with the throttle stick, and try to be smoothe with the sticks.Banging the sticks will cause the head to bog a little. Also for your first attempts make sure you have plenty of distance between your heli and the ground.
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11-03-2004 09:50 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Ringding

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Also between the heli and you for that matter...

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11-03-2004 10:04 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Drunk Monk

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Ok, banging wasn't exactly the right word, I should have said use more pitch than you think you should need.


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

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11-03-2004 11:01 AM  13 years agoPost 6
mrNoodles

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As Adam already said, lead with collective and try it a safe altitude for the first times.

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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11-03-2004 08:37 PM  13 years agoPost 7
LunchBox

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Definately try horizontal tic tocs first. they're a little easier and more forgiving than vertical tic tocs

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11-03-2004 11:21 PM  13 years agoPost 8
pilot74

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hey thanks for the great replies.

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11-04-2004 03:18 AM  13 years agoPost 9
Alistair

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if you pause with your collective, you won't have to use as much of it... these are slower of course, but the look nice....

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11-09-2004 03:20 AM  13 years agoPost 10
pilot74

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Alistair.

Tic Tocs look better i think slow and controlled anyway like you suggested. . i tryed these out today and they were bit dodgy but i am getting the idea..

they feel similar to the sim though,, the nerves makes it a blur the first tiem you do them. your fingers donlt seem to go where they are suppose to.

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11-09-2004 04:28 AM  13 years agoPost 11
Alistair

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your fingers donlt seem to go where they are suppose to.
haha i think we all know that one

softly softly is the approach. just take your time, and remember to pause with the collective. you'd be surprised at how long you can get it to hang in the air without dropping when you do this. the collective is going against the helis inertia which is what allows you to do this.

i do like to do them in a blur too when i'm just plain beating the piss out of it though

squigle

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11-09-2004 06:31 AM  13 years agoPost 12
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Alistair,

I found also on the sim anyway that they look cleaner if you centre the elevator with each pass. can't explain what i mean,. here.. errrmmm actually let go of the stick and then go the opposite directioon along with stopping the collective makes them smooth and tight..

I ve never seen anyone do it but is anyone stirring the stick whilst doing their tic tocs? i guess a piroetting tic toc. tried them on the sim they are hard but look cooll..

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11-09-2004 06:44 AM  13 years agoPost 13
carcrasher

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I've seen a piro-tic-toc once and it looked cool as hell. Could never get them done right though on the sim.

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11-09-2004 06:54 AM  13 years agoPost 14
pilot74

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yeah done right it would look awesome.
im mucking around with them on the sim, nothing pretty though..

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11-09-2004 07:43 AM  13 years agoPost 15
Alistair

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make sure you lead your cyclic with your collective (fast or slow tic-tocs)

a four (eight or twelve) point tic-toc is NOT a piro-tic-toc.

yes, you are stiring your cyclic for the piro-tic-toc.

i think they are fun i like doing them slow (piro) and really big... but with a lot of speed..... lol but then again, the tight quick ones are oodles of fun too. an advantage to the slow big ones... people can actually see what your doing

squigle

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11-09-2004 09:09 AM  13 years agoPost 16
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So with a pirotting tic toc its continuous piroette as the heli goes tic, toc etc that is one hell of a maneuver

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11-09-2004 09:12 AM  13 years agoPost 17
Alistair

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yep... that's it.

imagine a piro-flip that goes back and forth to some odd 80 degrees or so...

piro-tic-toc

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11-09-2004 09:16 AM  13 years agoPost 18
pilot74

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Holy sh*& they woudl look so good especially if you had the tic toc going nice and slow and smooth going back and forth..

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11-09-2004 08:22 PM  13 years agoPost 19
Alistair

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yep, pretty neat just takes some trickery..

squigle

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