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11-02-2004 06:30 PM  13 years agoPost 1
MBorrett

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Sorry i am a complete Newbie to Helis and Need some help on setting up my TX so that I can start the training on the Reflex XTR, I figured that spending £115 on this sim may save me a lot of dosh in repairs at the begin.

Anyway back to the Set Up I have A Futaba FF7 and dont have any real clue where to strat, I have just finished choping the wires round to get the dam thing to work with Reflex XTR, now all I need is to get the channels set correctly.

Look forward to the replys

Thanks

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11-02-2004 08:50 PM  13 years agoPost 2
zagidave

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are you going to use the ff7 to fly your rapter (when u finish building it)

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11-03-2004 12:48 AM  13 years agoPost 3
Buggy

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Hello MBorrett,

I'm just about as new as you are but if my 9C setup is anything close to your FF7, then the following works:

Ch1: Aileron (Left-Right Tilting)
Ch2: Elevator (Front-Rear Tilting)
Ch3: Throttle (part of collective pitch)
Ch4: Tail Rotor
Ch5: Autorotation (not entirely sure what this is for)
Ch6: Pitch (other part of collective pitch)


Hope this helps.

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11-03-2004 07:45 AM  13 years agoPost 4
MBorrett

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Thanks Buggy for that, I give it ago when I finish work today.

I have still got to read through the destruction manual that cam with the FF7 to work out how to use all the different switches and gimmics.

Just to added another question to this thread, does anyone know of a good Heli club here in sunny Bournemouth????

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11-03-2004 09:07 PM  13 years agoPost 5
acwman

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sunny Bournemouth
I'm pretty close. I live in Christchurch, which is just down the road..but it ain't sunny around here at the moment

I fly in Christchurch, though have been flying with the New Forest club before, but they are looking for a field for the club since lost the last one through noise complaints Hopefully one will turn up soon! There were quite a few of us who flew, and ppl came from bournemouth and poole to fly there! Great bunch of ppl to mix and learn with!

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11-05-2004 11:45 AM  13 years agoPost 6
Wright Flyer

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MBorret,

You don't need to worry about all the advanced heli functions in your FF7 to get flying helis with XTR (but you can start to use them later). You can actually fly the helis in Reflex with just a simple, non-computer 4 channel radio if you want (something you can't obviously do in real life!).

The "clever bit" in a proper heli Tx like your FF7 is the way it uses the up/down movement of the left (probably - I assume it's Mode 2) stick to control two different things. On a "real" heli this not only controls the throttle(ie speed) of the engine but also adjusts the blade pitch. You have clever "curves" you can program to try and get the right balance of both throttle and pitch at each stick position and that's where Tx heli programming gets real complicated.

But to get going in XTR you don't need to worry about any of that because most of the helis are either already enabled (or can with a single tick in one of the model menus) for "govenor mode". In which case the simulator handles the throttle for you and the left stick-up/down singal from your transmitter is used ONLY for adjusting the blade pitch and, in reality, I guess you could just call this the "up down control" for flying the heli (which, even with all the picth/throttle curves and whatever, is, I guess what it is in reality anyway).

Later on, when you start to learn about curves you can then untick the govenor thing in XTR and then start to program real curves in your TX and have it separately control the throttle and pitch channels but, like I say, for starting out you don't need to worry about any of this in the sim.

In fact I have a Hitec Eclipse 7 that I use for helis (cos it has reasonable heli features). I bought it to replace my FF6 (which has lousy heli features) but I now use the FF6 on my XTR for practicing heli flying cos it doesn't NEED to have the advanced features anyway and it is just useful to not have to keep attaching/removing plugs to the transmitter. I just use the FF6 as an "XTR controller" and the Eclipse as my "real" Tx. I say all this just to show that you can get started with the simplest of transmitters in XTR (or ignore the advanced features of a complicated one). In fact the model memory I use on the FF6 for XTR isn't even set to "heli" mode it's still set to plane mode!!

Cliff

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11-05-2004 05:49 PM  13 years agoPost 7
MBorrett

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Hi Cliff

Thanks for the advice, I have now got myself set up on XTR and have started the basic hoover training which sems to be coming on nicely, I guess it will be much harder in real life!!!!!

Im flying Mode 2, Ive herd that I should remove the clicky bit (not sure of the techinical term) on the throttle stick inside on my TX as this will give me more control over hoovering. Has anyone done this ?

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11-05-2004 05:58 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Drunk Monk

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I've removed the rachett on cheap crappy radios but haven't needed to on my 3810 as the rachett is smoothish to start with. If you find that the rachett is a little too strong then just remove the back of the radio and bend the rachett a little so that it's a little smoother. I'm not too sure about the FF7 but sometimes you can unscrew the rachett and turn it over and screw it back in. This leaves some tension on the collective but makes it smooth.


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

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11-08-2004 05:50 PM  13 years agoPost 9
MBorrett

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Thanks Stephen

Just gona give that a go now, sounds like an easy job

Matt

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11-08-2004 05:57 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Drunk Monk

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sounds like an easy job
Famous last words.....


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

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11-08-2004 06:13 PM  13 years agoPost 11
MBorrett

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Just $h*t myself, I open the TX up turn over the little springy thing and re attached it, then I thought I would j see it the hand set worked still, and it didnt then I realised durh the batteries was in the back plate to the Tx and wanst connected (ROFL)

Needless to say its now working fine

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11-08-2004 06:34 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Drunk Monk

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LOLnothing like a heart stopping moment to keep you on your toes


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

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