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11-02-2004 02:03 PM  13 years agoPost 1
shooter

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Just getting ready for a new sixty heli, which one is the best choice and Why? X-cell Fury expert or Raptor 60?

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11-02-2004 02:18 PM  13 years agoPost 2
still_learn'n

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x-cell or TT 60
If I may please add one more question to that..???? How many oz. of torque should the servos have for these birds?

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11-02-2004 02:32 PM  13 years agoPost 3
pilotError

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How much money do you have?
The real question is how much are you willing to spend in a crash. The Raptor isn't going to cost you your first born. The fury does fly great once you set it up correctly. It's much more agile than the Raptor, but if you crash it hard, your looking at $300 to fix it (minimum). The fury will not fall apart on you like a raptor will over time though.

I have an expert with a YS61 in it, a very reliable combination and a ball to fly. It will fly for about 15 min's on a tank, much better than my extreme and about the same as my EVO.


In response to the Servo question, 9252's are a good fit for the Fury.

You can do a search about crash costs and servos for both heli's.

Mike...

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11-02-2004 02:57 PM  13 years agoPost 4
870heli

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I am also thinking of buying a new 60 . A Fury Basic is all I think I want. Maby I will learn something hear and change my mind before I spend my money.

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11-02-2004 03:03 PM  13 years agoPost 5
RLO1

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Wait until you can afford the expert version, the upgrades are worth the wait. It is cheaper to pay the extra for the expert than spend the money on the upgrade parts later.

my two cents
-Ron

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11-02-2004 03:45 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Bobby Watts

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A pilot at our field flies the hell outta his Raptor 60 and it is great to him. Maitnence is not his forte and he still manages to fly it week after week. It is very tough too.

Many people out here in MD have Fury's and without question, they are the best. Only problem is that they cost more to crash. If crashing and maitnence is not an issue, go with the Fury Extreme or Expert.

I just got a new Raptor 90 SE and am loving it. I have gotten 8 flights on it and boy is she smooth. Very stable and tough as nails.

Either helicopter is great and you won't be disappointed with it.

My $.02 for the day,
Bob

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11-02-2004 04:00 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Gary

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What is considered the Mercedes Benz of Helis
I'm wondering what is considered the best heli on the market. I've got a Tempest, Vigor CS, Raptor 90 SE, 60V2. What I'm looking for now is what is considered the premier heli going.

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11-02-2004 04:03 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Santiago P

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Q1: Do you have a CCPM capable radio?
Q2: How much money you are looking to spend?
Q3: What kind of flying you do or want to do?
Q4: What are the other guys (if any) in the area fly?
Q5: How much risk you take, and how often you crash?

I own 2 XCells and have flown a well setup Raptor 60. It flew well, but my XCell outperformed it. If you crash often, get the Raptor. They repair cost per crash is MUCH lower.
In fact, if you still learning basics, stick to a Raptor 50, with some minor mods like metal head block, lighter paddles, and a good engine like theOS50 hyper with a muscle pipe, or a large volume Hatori.
The Raptor50 has better power to weight ratio than the R60. The 60 is more stable.
I have a Raptor 50 which is my everyday beater. Good to learn new things with. My XCell will outfly it, is much more responsive and stable, and scares the sh#^ out of me the thought of crashing it while leaning a new trick.
What others fly in your are is important, because they will be your first line of help in the long run. Also, there is always this forum.
I have not flown a Fury, but I take it is somewhat better than the XCell.
A catch with 60 size heli if you are going to do hard 3D and string out manuevers, you have to run it hard. I run my YS60 close to 17000RPM on my XCell with 680mm blades, 1800RPM ont the head. Performance is awsome, BUTT the fuel consumption is close to a 90! ANother point, if you are going to slowly upgrade your 60 Heli, the cost difference between the Fury and the Raptor will wash out. Raptor quality upgrades are pretty expensive.
Last, a good setup can make a great heli fly like crap, and a crappy heli look good. Same thing with good and mediocre pilots.

Money no object, Fury Extreeme all the way.

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11-02-2004 04:18 PM  13 years agoPost 9
pilotError

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Raptors
just got a new Raptor 90 SE and am loving it. I have gotten 8 flights on it and boy is she smooth. Very stable and tough as nails.
Be aware, I have a buddy with the same heli, and he has stripped 3 sets of tail gears on it so far, resulting in having to Auto it in. I don't know if that's a problem with his building skills or a problem with the heli.

Mike...

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11-02-2004 04:33 PM  13 years agoPost 10
Santiago P

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One of the local guys who own a Raptor 60, decided to upgrade it slowly to get better performance. After frame stiffeners, metal control linkages, carbon boom, all metal head, he had over $1300 in it, more money in it than a Fury Tempest, and still, did not fly as good as one. If you like the Raptor stock, you 'll be ok.
I have a buddy with the same heli, and he has stripped 3 sets of tail gears on it so far
I know other folks with R90 and have not gears problems. One friend in Fort Wayne, that also owns a Freya X-Spec, and says the Raptor 90 does not fly as well. He is a great young pilot, with great feel.

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11-02-2004 06:13 PM  13 years agoPost 11
Santiago P

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Buddykitchen is right. I tent to forget Bergen's helis cause I don't see too many of them. Bergen helis are top notch. Very reliable, good performance, tough as nails. I have set up and flown their industrial twin, and was impressed with it simple rugged design, and performance carrying 4-6 lbs. It could easily carry another 5 lbs. Stable as a huge rock, yet I could do any 3D if I want it.
Above all, good customer relations and service. Larry Bergen is a great guy to deal with. I cannot underline the last statement enough.


Santiago
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11-02-2004 10:16 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Unbalanced

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I've flown the bigger raptor since it was first released - progressively upgraded to a 90STD now. They are durable, everything that moves is ball raced so the only real maintenance is checking bearings and that things are tight - bits have only been replaced on mine through "upgrade opportunities" usually coinciding with decking it. Mechanically I've only had issues with the auto bearing on the 90 but its not a biggie.

The 90STD or 50 are imo the best heli's if you are looking for value for money and easy setup and maintenance. Even the 90 is simple - for example you can strip and reassemble the frames in a few hours without raising a sweat (I'd reckon the 50 could be easily done at the field over a coffee). They are very well thought out and designed and fly well - sure others may fly better but I'll be honest my ability is way more a limiting factor than the heli's - once you've picked you're flash heli out of the mud a couple of times you get pragmatic about these things.

I'm not sure how the SE versions in the long run will go against the Fury's etc - maybe they are trading of loyalty to the cheaper raptors or something.

Good luck and have fun with whatever you decide
Jeff

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