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11-02-2004 03:23 AM  13 years agoPost 1
wannaflyguy

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Hey Guys,

I am flying a Century Hummingbird FP micro. And I have been considering stepping up to Nitro and CCP. Over the weekend, I attended an open house at the Maryland Heli Association and most of the guys there were flying Raptors. They were really pushing Raptors, but I really like Century.

Can anyone convince me or give some advice why I should do a Hawk Sport over a Raptor?


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11-02-2004 03:40 AM  13 years agoPost 2
albatross

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I never have owned a Raptor so I can't personally give any recommendation on their line.

I have owned and still own everything from the Hawk 2 through the Falcon SE 2. I love the Century line and am waiting till my flying skills improve enough for the Predator Gasser. (one very nice heli IMHO.)

The Hawk if built right flies great out of the box and with a few upgrades like the TT drive and a good HH gyro it is even better.

They are a very durable helicopter at a price point that no one else has come close to.

Sounds like you have already made up your mind and don't let others second-guess yourself.

As far as people saying part support is bad...BS; Rick's is who I use but their are many others including Century. Yes is it is mail order and you might have to wait a day or so but the parts support is there. (Have a second Hawk or Raven on standby

I say go with what YOU like and run with it. Ross

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11-02-2004 05:15 AM  13 years agoPost 3
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wannaflyguy,,, you may be beyond the Sport,, if so then you want the Raven !!

straight out of the box the Raptor will out 3D the Sport, but not the Raven as I see it,,, you want the Raven for 3Ding,,,

hit the links and read, you'll get the answer you want, in the last link pay close attention to the listed problems the Raptor and Evo are festered with,,,

http://runryder.com/t138339p1/

http://www.runryder.com/t134136p1/

http://www.runryder.com/t134041p1/

as I said you may be beyond the Sport, but if you want the Sport, the Sport is more of a beginner heli than the Raptor, but guys here on the Century page have flown their Sports for 2,3 years without problems, but yes there is a few upgrades I would recommend for the Sport, such as the SS torque tube tail drive, all 4 long balls the the swash's top plate, and the bearing upgrade kit, and you may want the slipper clutch for auto'ing,,, don't get me wrong, even a Century owner will tell you the Raptor is a well flying heli, but as an amateur machinist I see that Century is a higher quality product,,,

I say buy the OS 37 and the Futaba 401 gyro with servo,,,

good luck and let us know what goes on.


Jim

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11-02-2004 06:29 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Ray Fernandez

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I agree with Jim. Get a Raven instead. This because you are saying you want CCPM.

I've owned several Raptors and found them to be good helis, however, I've also owned my share of Century Hawks and Falcons and currently have a Falcon SE V2 and just love flying it around.

Another consideration you might want to look at is that since the rest of your friends fly Raptor, you might want to consider it being that they might be more familiar with that brand.

As you can see, I don't really care too much for these "brand" wars, just want to make sure that if a person wishes to fly, they should get whatever they can afford and go from there.

Good luck in your decision.

Ray Fernandez - GUAM

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11-02-2004 05:08 PM  13 years agoPost 5
wannaflyguy

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Hey guys!

I really appreciate your insight. I'll read the threads you posted up Wasp.

I just really want to make sure that I get a well built machine with good mechanics from the start without having to do NEEDED hop ups. I like the Century products and I agree with Ray F.-- that the guys flying Raptors are probably just sold on them more because that's what everyone else is flying. Truth is though..... I don't want the same ole same ole.

Any more advice on the Raven will be helpful such as governors, absolute must have hop ups, etc....

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11-02-2004 05:09 PM  13 years agoPost 6
wannaflyguy

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Hey Ray....

I'm a Guamanian too! My father is a native... and grew up in Agana!

Will PM you later. Haffadai.

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11-02-2004 05:58 PM  13 years agoPost 7
BANDANA

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I have both the Hawk Sport and the Raptor 30 V2. Same support equipment. Both have taken me from hovering to FF to loops and ugly flips. Only upgrade is the BB's in both. IMO, the Raptor just feels more solid in a hover(could be the pilot). When I'm heading out the door in a hurry the Hawk always jumps in my hand first.

Fly which ever one you like best and get some ear plugs. You can't please everyone, all of the time.
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11-02-2004 07:32 PM  13 years agoPost 8
concept1

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If you are past hovering, I'd go for the Raven. I have flown century for the last 3 years, and now am flying a Raptor 50V2. personally I believe the hawk Sport is a great first heli, but the Raven is the best heli. it will outlast anything and perform as well or better then the rest. with either the Raven or Raptor you can get the 30 and upgrade to 50 later, but again if you are inro FFF comfortably now, you may want to go for the 50 now. the Raptor is a good flyer but it NEEDS upgrades for duribility and quality. I've now got 3 gallons thru mine and have had to do many mods and upgrades. most of which I only did because it did not meet my quality standards which I have been acustom to with century products. I figured out for a 50 heli the kit cost is about the same, but the raven needs nothing for years of flying. the Raptor needs and will require first a metal washout assembly $40-85 depending on which one you get, a metal head block $50-78, seesaw $27-38 and you must glue in all your bearings and bolts since the tolerances are way off all my bolts are too small for the bearings the bearings wobble on the bolts, so I had to glue them in (not a problem unles I need to dismantle several times) I am now very happy with flight characteristics of my Raptor but Cost will tell you to stick with the raven

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11-02-2004 08:54 PM  13 years agoPost 9
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Bandana,,, get yourself some thrust-bearings for your Hawk's main blades grips and you will feel a big diff.

Jim

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11-03-2004 12:26 AM  13 years agoPost 10
BANDANA

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Wasp~ Got a part#? Winter is coming. Thanks for the tip, I'm going the heatshrink route to firm up the dampening too. All in all, it's been real good to me.

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11-03-2004 12:31 AM  13 years agoPost 11
albatross

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Thanks for the tip, I'm going the heatshrink route to firm up the dampening too. All in all, it's been real good to me.
I just did this on my Sport and man what a cheap and easy upgrade. Don't get me wrong the head is not as slop free as my Falcon but man o man this change is coming to my Hawk 2 and soon. Ross

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11-03-2004 02:19 AM  13 years agoPost 12
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I have both the Hawk Sport and Raptor 30 V2. Get the Raven.

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11-03-2004 04:51 AM  13 years agoPost 13
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11-03-2004 08:11 AM  13 years agoPost 14
BANDANA

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Thanks Wasp.

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11-03-2004 03:44 PM  13 years agoPost 15
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I have a Raptor .50........... But when I saw, Doug Adams flew his Raven and he ran me through the raven's mechanism, compared to the Raptor .50.... The Raven is solid and it's 3D performance is beyond the Raptor.

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