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11-01-2004 11:15 PM  13 years agoPost 1
PullPitch

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Bend, OR

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I'm not a 3d guy, I want to do camera work & scale like manuvers. I borrowed a G2 for a week and feel my skills improved greatly. I went to buy XTR and played with it at the hobby shop (only a few minutes). My first impression, I like G2 better!?!?!? I like on G2 how you can increase the visual scale of the heli, and set the view so that you can always see the ground. I have a 7U TX now, but want a new TX soon.

Can I buy a XTR TX cord separately?
Will any radio fly any heli on XTR (ccpm)?
Can I change the visual scale of the heli on XTR?
Do you have to program pitch curves to fly XTR?
Is a Nvida Gforce2 video card enough for XTR?
Does XTR have a gasser with adj. weight?
Is G2 a good enough tool for non 3D?
Would I be a big idiot to buy G2?

Help!

PullPitch
www.skybercam.com

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11-01-2004 11:54 PM  13 years agoPost 2
sabooo

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Allentown, PA area

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It depends - do you think that its realistic to be able to increase the scale of the model? Will making it easier to see prepare you for learning orientation at distance which will be one of the hardest parts about flying camera ships?

XTR is protected by the cord / dongle thingie. That is what you are paying for when you buy the sim.

Any radio can fly any heli on XTR - you can either fly the mixes in the radio, or use ones programmed in the software of the sim. Model weight is adjustable for any heli, although I haven't seen a gasser for XTR yet.

To answer your last questions - you absolutely can assist yourself in learning to fly with G2 / G3. Buy what you like.

The trick with Sims is to approach their use in a disciplined manner. Dont just 'avoid crashing,' use it to learn to fly in a controlled fashion.



I was going to take up Origami, but someone said the local club folded.

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11-02-2004 02:17 AM  13 years agoPost 3
PullPitch

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Bend, OR

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Visual scale
I agree on the visual scale not being realistic. It was a nice feature for initial familiarization though.

You lost me on the cord / dongle thingy. If I buy a 9c or 9103 later can I buy a cord separatly?

Good to know I could fly a ccpm heli with my old radio, that was my biggest concern. I think I have a Gforce2 video card, but forgot the specs, I hope it is good enough.

Other than the video card, I have a 1.8GHz P4 w/ 512k RAM running XP.

I'm leaning toward reflex but hope to get more input. I want to practice maintaining a constant altitude through smooth turns and stops for video work.

Thanks for the input saboo.

PullPitch
www.skybercam.com

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11-02-2004 04:05 AM  13 years agoPost 4
cwhover

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El Paso, TX

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PullPitch,

I started with G2 and just got reflex. To me, the flight characteristics of reflex are better-more lifelike. But as saboo said, either will help improve your flying.

Hope you're having a nice stay in Albuquerque. Enjoyed dinner with you the other night.

Carl
VISA field rep

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11-02-2004 01:32 PM  13 years agoPost 5
pH7

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Sterling Heights, MI - USA

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PullPitch,

The "dongle" is a USB device that plugs into your computer and serves 2 purposes: 1) security for the software, XTR must see it to run in simulation mode, and 2) it has a jack that the cord from your transmitter plugs into. If you get XTR and later change to a different transmitter you only need to change the cord. (You can make your own.)

HTH

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11-03-2004 01:08 AM  13 years agoPost 6
PullPitch

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Bend, OR

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I bought Reflex
The only concern I have is -
Minimum video card is 32mb
Recommended 128mb

I have 64mb

It will work but I was wondering how well. I cant check til I get back home to Alaska. Anyone out there running a 64mb card?

Also, a special thanks to all the great guys who showed me a good time on vacation here in Albuquerque. The heli only field was way cool!!

PullPitch
www.skybercam.com

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11-03-2004 09:35 AM  13 years agoPost 7
Ringding

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Austria

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64MB is not a problem, it's the graphics processor that matters. It even works with 32MB on current ATI mobility chips. You need either a good GF4 (not MX!) or higher (GF FX 5200 is barely usable) or a Radeon 9xxx. Maybe also Radeon 8xxx works, don't have one to try.

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11-04-2004 02:59 PM  13 years agoPost 8
PullPitch

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Bend, OR

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Video card
I have a 64 mb G3 TI. Hope it cuts the mustard. Can I turn the resolution down on the grass/clouds or somthing if I get a jerky screen? I'll be home this weekend and put Reflex to the test in my tower. It will be nice to get stick time even when its below zero out!

PullPitch
www.skybercam.com

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11-04-2004 03:03 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Ringding

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Austria

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The panorama resolution can be lowered but this really only helps with 32MB cards. Other than that, let us know if it works with the GF 3.

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11-04-2004 03:42 PM  13 years agoPost 10
nheather

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Horsham, West Sussex, UK

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I first ran XTR on a machine which has

Athlon XP 1800+
512MB Ram
Geforce 3 ti500

This ran the old Reflex at very good screen rates 85fps and higher

With XTR, I felt that it was okay but I wasn't happy. Basically at best, I got 30fps when in the air (simple background) but closer to ground would drop to 10fps or less.

This was with V-Sync on. With V-Sync off, things were a little better but not greatly.

In truth I think you will find it okay with the GF3 but you will feel a little disappointed and will soon be looking to upgrade your card like I did.

I now have an ATI 9700Pro and frame rates are back in excess of 85fps.

Cheers,

Nigel

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