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11-01-2004 10:46 AM  13 years agoPost 1
U.S.U.L

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Poland

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Hey guys

I'm just learning to fly(hover) my h2. It's my first heli. Could you tell me what is the easiest way for starting with it. I had two boom strikes becouse of hitting throttle stick down(with -2 negative pitch) before i could crash on wall. I think i'll adjust my pitch only for positive(+1 to +9).
I have stock motor, 3x1500 lipo, no mods, bell-hiller, just blades weighted on tips(about 2g).

Thanks a lot for helping me

Cheers

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11-01-2004 10:54 AM  13 years agoPost 2
Saint728

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The easiest way to learn is to practice on a flight simulator. Another way is not to panic and chop the throttle. Also it would help if you practiced in a bigger area so you can fly without hitting a wall or something.

Take Care,
Cheers, Patrick

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11-01-2004 05:33 PM  13 years agoPost 3
Gary Jenkins

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One degree of positive pitch is a good idea. Try hovering only a couple inches off the ground. Then when you panic and cut the trottle the heli won't hit the ground so hard.

Saint728


Your a big help. Why didn't you tell him not to crash.

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11-02-2004 06:02 AM  13 years agoPost 4
SBK

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NE Ohio

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I am learning too. Shouldn't there be some negative pitch, say, -2, or even -1, so when you want to bring the heli down, it would come down. With all positive pitches, the heli may refuse to come down?

May be it is different from a large heli flying outdoors. I had an experience with some difficulty to bring the heli (Logo 10) down when a gust of wind blew it upward and I, as a novice, had set the pitch at 0 - +11, and could not bring the heli down easily. The recommended pitch for beginner, I finally agree, should be -3 to +11, or +12.

Does Hornet, a micro heli, behaves differently from its larger brothers?

Lots of simulator practice and the dowel and ball training gear are must's for a beginner.

SBK

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11-02-2004 04:04 PM  13 years agoPost 5
OT45

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Kingston, NY

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I agree with SBK, a training gear is a must. It comes in handy also when setting up a new heli. As far as pitch is concerned, if you are only learning to hover inside, neg pitch is not needed. If flying outside, some neg is recommended. You can set up your radio with different pitch curves for that. As an example:

Flight mode 1: 0 to +9 deg pitch.
Flight mode 2: -4 to +9 deg pitch.

This way, if the need for neg is needed, you have access to it. One thing to note is that your stick position for hovering might change between switching from mode 1 to 2. Try to keep both pich curves the same around the hovering stick position.

The HII likes high headspeed. Keep the max pitch below +9.
U.S.U.L,you might want to add flybar weights (wheel collars) to reduce cyclic esponse on the BH upgrade if you haven't done so already.

Keep practicing!

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11-02-2004 05:58 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Gary Jenkins

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You don't need any negative pitch, think of flying a fixed pitch heli.

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11-02-2004 08:05 PM  13 years agoPost 7
yf22k

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Long Island, NY

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if your flying outside you definitely need negative pitch. I found this out the hard way when i first stared learning. I forgot to swtich to idle up 1 which had negative pitch. I had no negative pitch and had problems bringing the heli back down at 0 pitch because the wind was blowing. luckily the wind died down when my h II was about 20 feet up. I was able to bring it back down but the wind blew again and screwed up my landing.

-Keith

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11-03-2004 02:51 AM  13 years agoPost 8
Blade-X

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Singapore

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Has anyone brought this up?

USUL ,
to protect your boom, u should also use longer 2mm rods for the boom support rods.... ditch the horizontal fin and get yourself another of those boom/support rod connectors. Double this up into a thicker stack. And glue this down way way closer to the tail rotor. So the next time, your blades wanna say hello to your boom, they'll be greeted by the boom support rods first.

This setup also makes the boom setup more rigid if u set it up properly./tightly

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11-03-2004 02:54 AM  13 years agoPost 9
yf22k

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Long Island, NY

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i'm kind of lost in your translation. Do you have any pics?

Thanks,
Keith

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11-03-2004 04:32 PM  13 years agoPost 10
U.S.U.L

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Poland

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Thanks guys

I will try to fly with no negative and no wind

Cheers

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