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08-08-2004 08:11 PM  15 years ago
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Jeff Swartz

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Raptor 90SE build complete...
This SE version had some nice suprises!

The button on top the head block is a real nice touch!

didnt think I would like the rear tail servo placement, but it works much smoother than mounting it up front.

I like the option of having the phazing adjustable, and that ring really locks the head block to the main shaft.

Anyone building needs to use caution with all the head pieces that have been tumbuled for the finish, the threads are not real clean, and I snapped off a ball screw inside the new flybar carrier. Cost me a day to get a new one.

Shake down flights later today.
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08-08-2004 08:21 PM  15 years ago
rogers259

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get some pics and throw her in the air
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08-08-2004 08:35 PM  15 years ago
SkyfoxSXer

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Just make sure there are no Evos in the air when you make that maiden flight
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08-08-2004 11:19 PM  15 years ago
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Just make sure there are no Evos in the air when you make that maiden flight
lmao
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08-09-2004 12:04 AM  15 years ago
Jeff Swartz

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Flys Great!

Now if I could get the darm stock os90ps to get consistant!


Engine was pulled out of my milli3 and was already broke in so I was able to get up on what power I could get out of here right off the bat.

Easy build... blades tracked and only 2 clicks trim off the bench.

New head is very crisp and the airtronics 758z's make it come alive.

built completely stock with the 91t white main gear to give 8.27 ( I think I like the 7.9 better)

on the 5th flight, had a engine flame out while inverted fairly low and by the time I got it upright, there was not much room to re-build blade speed... Medium to hard landing and I broke the boom right behind the tail support brace. I Think that I may have had the mount a little to tight, but the cf boom in this kit did seem a little thinner than the other cf booms I have used. 20 minutes on the bench, and the boom is changed. Leaving it alone now till Ircha.

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Yes Rogers.... I will get some pics soon

Jeff

See you all there!
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08-09-2004 12:18 AM  15 years ago
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Hi Jeff,
I built an SE over the weekend and hovered in on the lawn yesterday, was highly impressed. Can't wait for the weekend to come round again to really have a go on it. The collective response on the 9350 was CCPM like.

It's the first Raptor I've built and I'm pretty impressed. Will be finishing a review on it shortly for my site.

Si
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08-09-2004 12:44 AM  15 years ago
Jeff Swartz

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Hey Simon,

Cant wait to see your review!

This was my 3rd r90 build this season... May and June I built the standards...

So... That made this build go real fast! I have the air frame finished in a couple lite evenings... about a total of 8hrs...

Another 6-8 hrs for the servos, duralites, receiver, 601, gv-1 and MP2 with fuel lines and just the normal tinkering.

I want to see if the cf frames will support the 90's with out the big aluminum side stiffners. I am thinking they will. But I;ll try that after the Jamboree.

Yea, the servos of today really make the non ccpm helis right on the same level as the eccpm machines.

I usually run the ko on 7.4volts, but this one I chose the airtronics in all 3 locations... dont know which is faster at the moment, but I will keep you informed.

Later
Jeff
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08-09-2004 12:49 AM  15 years ago
rogers259

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Glad to see you got her in the air.....any differences that u can see between the SE setup and the std's w/ quick heads as far as flying goes?

Matt
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08-09-2004 12:54 AM  15 years ago
Secret Squirrel

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I built this one with the 7.9:1 gear ratio as I have 8:1 in the Vigor (OS with MPII) and it pulls like a freight train. I feel that 8.45:1 for this engine/muffler config is a little high.

This isn't my heli, belongs to a mate (I built it for my review), but after just looking at the parts prices for Rappys, I'm starting to feel there might be an SE in my future after all. I've been a bit loathe to try 'cheaper' helis after having a Vigor STD compared to my CS. The Std just never locked in like the CS does and I've been a bit wary of cheaper helis in case they don't produce that feel also. I'm going to be keen to see how this one goes. If it feels good, I think I'll do that, I mean really, a boom for AU$25?????? I'd be crazy not to.

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08-09-2004 12:58 AM  15 years ago
Jeff Swartz

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well, its a very close call!

Both are Huge improvements over the plastic hubs.... I will now not do any heavy 3D with a plastic head on my machined!

I like the ring on the bottom of the tt head because it really clamps down onto the main shaft.

I think that both heads fly very simular to one another. I like the tt grips having the multi piece design and the parts are available seporately so if you screw one up, you dont have to buy the entire blade grip assy.
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08-09-2004 01:05 AM  15 years ago
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I like the 12/95 = 7.9:1 in my #1 STD machine.

Now I have to pull the clutch assy out to swap out the 11 for the 12 and change the 91 to the 95. That is going to be sort of a pain! oh well, maybe the 8:27 will grow on me.

I think the other stock options were 7.75 and a 8.45 ... not the greatest for us 3d ers.... I think 8.45 is way to high

But then again, I run v-690's and not the 710's
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08-09-2004 01:53 AM  15 years ago
Jeff Swartz

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Pics

Canopy sticker time
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08-09-2004 02:03 AM  15 years ago
blakka_1

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now thats sweet . thanx H.H, you need to make us a video of yourself flying that r90se.

i have only seen you fly the milli, would be nice to see you flying a rappy.
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08-09-2004 07:34 AM  15 years ago
BigChopper

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Gear Ratio
Hi HH,

That looks a great Heli!

After flying a Mill with a ratio of 8.0:1 I guess 8.25 feels a bit high.

I have a similar dilema after flying my Mill/YS91. I don't know what to go for on the Rap... 7.9 or 8.25.... mmmmmm

Let us know how you get on,..

Andy
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08-09-2004 07:53 AM  15 years ago
FrankT

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Have you guys looked here:

http://www.freestyle3d.com/YS/ys.htm

JK & Todd B. recomends 8.45 on a YS-91 !
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08-09-2004 09:39 AM  15 years ago
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ratio options
I'm a little unclear as to what options are available.

So, 11T or 12T pinion,

96T?, 95T, 94T ,?? ,?? main

I'm a little unclear as to what ratios can be acheived with available parts.

what comes as standard in the kit?

Andy
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08-09-2004 10:01 AM  15 years ago
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Dokeys YS runs nice with 8.45 using the hatori muffler...

sounds so much happier than on an MP2

Don't Email me as I wont reply - PM Only (spam countermeasures)
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08-09-2004 10:10 AM  15 years ago
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Hi:

Thanks for the pictures!

Are the SE paddles the same as the ones that come in the other Raptor kits?

Thank you very much.

David
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08-09-2004 02:15 PM  15 years ago
Jeff Swartz

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Galifrey, gonna have to try the hatori... I know my mp2 likes the 7.9 and approx 1850 at the head. I know the ys likes a little higher rpm range.

davehour, I think the paddles are diffrent, but I just chucked them into the box and stuck on the 95mm V's. I will check them out better tonight.

BigChopper, this baby is loaded with gear options! 11 and 12 tooth pinion come in kit with the 93 main. Options are.... 10,11,12 pinions and 91,93,94,95 mains

blakka_1, great idea! Dont get the xfc dvd to watch me.... I could hardley hover under all that presure , Im sure that Team Bob00 dvd of this years ircha will be off the hook again!! I may even get a little more camera time if I can...

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08-09-2004 02:24 PM  15 years ago
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Heli looks great Jeff. Looking forward to you putting it through it's paces at IRCHA in a few days. See ya Thursday morning.
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