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04-30-2004 10:08 PM  13 years agoPost 21
rickc

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This video of the 25-14 is good enough for me. Excellent performance.

http://www.c2vm.org/leprez/test2.mov

Rick

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04-30-2004 10:57 PM  13 years agoPost 22
Larry

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whats involved in putting the orbit in the machine?? any additional parts needed ??

i have a hacker controller i was going to use with the 13l hacker motor, will this controller handle the higher voltage ??

Thanks

Larry

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05-01-2004 12:40 AM  13 years agoPost 23
rickc

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An 18 tooth pinion for the 25-14. I doubt the Hacker controller will work. An 8S2P is 33.6 volts, check the specs of the ESC.

Rick

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05-01-2004 02:07 AM  13 years agoPost 24
novaman

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rick

that motor looks and sounds nice, i am thinking of ditching the b50-15xl and trying one of them.
i got a hacker in the package, its a 48-O-heli, 10-32 nc /4-10 lipo/ 12-42 volts. i would prefer a castle but it will probably be at least 2 months before we will see the new high voltage controllers.

novaman

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05-02-2004 12:25 AM  13 years agoPost 25
rickc

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I thought my motor and esc might have been delivered today , oh well I still need to get other items together to complete the change over. I've also been looking for a pre-built canopy somewhere in stock. #2791. Haven't found one as of yet.

As for a controller, I like Schulze. I have a fut32.k40 being shipped with the 25-14. I received an email form Icare saying thanks for the payment, I sent a reply asking if it has been shipped. No reply from them so far, I believe the items were in stock. I'll just keep watching the mail.

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05-23-2004 10:11 PM  13 years agoPost 26
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With an 8S2P and a 25-14 motor, what kind of flight times am I looking at? I'm getting ready to order two TP3800 4S2P's and was wondering the flight duration, it has to be better than what I had with my B50-11L and 2400's. 3 1/2 to 4 minutes of 3D and a minute of hovering.

Rick

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05-25-2004 01:28 AM  13 years agoPost 27
rocheleaud

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hey all ,

Got back from CapeCod , this is why i did'nt answer any of you ... it was so nice ( first slope flying experience ) ... but i did more heli flight than slope . The 25-14 is a blast but 2100 of hs is too much for me . I put back a 16 pinion and now i am at 1800 . In term of flight time , i am around 3 flight of 6 to 10 minutes . My guest is it will be around 20 min of soft flying and 13-14 of hard 3d . I did'nt time it yet exacly but my buddy's changed their corona's battery 4 times whille we alternate flying helicopter over the beach . I will post back some other video . Please note that i am not a 3d flyer , so it's not the type of video who will throw you over your chair !!!

Larry : you bolt it on ... as easy as that !!! perfect fit ... you don't even need the motor adapter .

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05-25-2004 02:13 AM  13 years agoPost 28
rscamp

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Rocheleaud.

Good to hear your heli is working well with the Orbit. My experience has been a good one too.

I finally got mine in the air with the 9s2p TP3800s and Hacker B50-16XL and it works very well. I'm no 3D pilot either but I find the heli is so "sweet" at 2krpm+ I'm going to keep it there. This setup has so much torque I could use much more than the +/- 12 deg. pitch range that is available (or go to larger blades).

I'm sure your Orbit works well but people with the XL Hackers shouldn't toss them aside just yet. Very high efficiencies are possible.

I'm really glad I tried a 9s setup. The heli seems to fly effortlessly because of the power headroom. At 10C, there is fully 1265 Watts in or about 1.4HP out available. It is practically intoxicating!

What is the weight of your heli? My total weight is a hefty 5lb 5oz. You should be 4-5oz lighter.

Rob

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05-25-2004 03:05 AM  13 years agoPost 29
rickc

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Thanks for the info, I haven't received my ESC yet from ICARE, it should ship this week. And now the TP packs are going to include a PCB to protect the pack. I'm glad I held off on purchacing packs. The new packs should be available in early June it looks like.

Rick

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05-28-2004 03:46 AM  13 years agoPost 30
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I'm getting ready to order my packs, I'm going to use two TP3800 4S2P's in series for the 25-14 motor. With my carbon frames it looks like it will be very tight getting the packs in below the mainshaft. I have right at 1 1/2 inches of clearence and TP says the TP3800 packs are 3/4 inch high a piece. rocheleaud, you having troublers getting the packs in?

Rick

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05-28-2004 04:29 PM  13 years agoPost 31
rocheleaud

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Rick , did your receive your stock yet ???

Sometime customs are frustrating , it's not busines oriented.... each time i order from the states , it can take up to one month even if i choose express int shipping , and i know that it's the same the other way around ( Canada to Us ) .

I build a test pack from 4x 3s1p and 2 2s1p thunder power gen 1 before going with 2 4s2p ( i was waiting for gen2 ) . I did a brick and it's much more versatile in term of placement . I will post a pic . I did a home-made carbon fiber support with a special foam in sandwich to hold the battery and protect it . Thanks for the info , i was ready to order the gen2 pack but i will old it off until the new pack are out .

Rscamp : with 1265 Watts , do you have a carbon frame to hold it on and do you feel any frame flex Like Garry reported before ??? that is enourmous power !!! like a 90 in a 30 ... hehehe , i like that . Last time i weight it , it was a litle bit under 5 pounds ( but almost 5 ) .

Novaman : don't ditch the 15xl , keep it for a logo 20 ;o)) , but i agree , the 15xl is big for a logo10 ... this is why people who put the C50 xl series in a logo10 feel the need to upgrade some parts ( longer boom, longer main blades , carbon fiber frame ) why not , they have the room for it . I prefer to keep my small logo10 3d stock with my small motor , and buy a logo20 instead for the 15xl . Haaaaaaaaaa too much toys to play with . But i will not chalenge the choice of the 16xl motor , it's one of the top one and it can be a personal preference if you whant somethig to give you room to grow .

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05-28-2004 10:19 PM  13 years agoPost 32
rscamp

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Rocheleaud.

I notice the frame is indeed quite flexible between the motor mounting/main lower bearing plate and the battery tray/landing gear. To a large extent though, I think this spring-mass issue is true regardless of the motor size. It makes an excellent blade balance detector, as I found out!

Rick.

If it helps, I measured the standard frame and there is about 1.650" between the top surface of the battery tray and the main shaft (standard). The thickness of two of the TP batteries varies a bit but is slightly under 1.500". So you will be a bit closer but probably okay if you secure it firmly. Is your battery tray flat across? If it is split like the standard frame you might be able to mount the lower battery with the leads on the bottom and gain a bit of height that way.

Rob

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05-29-2004 03:07 AM  13 years agoPost 33
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Here is a pic of my battery tray Rob. With my carbon frames I have 1.5 and that's it. I'll figure it out somehow.

Rick

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05-29-2004 10:56 AM  13 years agoPost 34
rscamp

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I think you'll be okay Rick, because 1.5" is the thickest part of the batteries. There are places along the cells that are less so if you line up the top layer of batteries right you'll have clearance.

Piece of cake.

Rob

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05-29-2004 07:09 PM  13 years agoPost 35
rockcrawler

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Used Logo powerplant and ESC needed

I see people on this thread are doing some motor swaping.
I need a motor and esc for my logo (For mild 3d).
I have a few cool things to trade im not using.
1) 3 JR DS 8417 servos. (Low hr's they were backups, I now fly all futaba.
2) YS 63 4 stroke plank motor.
3)One TP 2700 3s NIP (Paid 79$ good replacement cells for a TP pack. )

Terry.
1425 221 5294

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05-29-2004 07:54 PM  13 years agoPost 36
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I have a Schulze 45Ho ESC that I used with my 12 cell setup. It's in excellent shape. I can't use it with my high voltage setup. PM me if your interested. 65.00 shipped

Rick

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05-29-2004 08:54 PM  13 years agoPost 37
rockcrawler

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Im new to this, would that ESC work with TP 4s 4p?

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05-30-2004 12:00 AM  13 years agoPost 38
rickc

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It would be perfect controller for that setup. It's good for 18 sub c cells or 21.6 volts. A 4S4P is fully charged at 16.8 volts. Schulze is the cadilac of controllers, they have the best govenor mode available.

Rick

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05-31-2004 07:16 PM  13 years agoPost 39
rocheleaud

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Everyone , I am back from an helicopter only club around Montreal ( club Crash ) . I wanted to look for someone to help me tuned the logo 10 with my brand new motor in it ( i am still new to helicopter ) . To make a long story short , one guy named Nick asked me if he could try to fly it around and help me tuned it . Every one where curious and stoped to whatch because it's the first electric helicopter of this size that they saw .... he told me that he will do circuits only ... nothing too much ...

Man , i am still shaking ... the hs was 1800 because i have the 16 thoots pinion on it ( still wait for the 18 ) but the fist thing he did is fliped it and tuned it inverted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he did tic-toc ,.... he almost cut the grass , he did funels , he fliped it 3 feet over the ground and did all other sort of trick ( rainbow ???) that i saw on the Fury Ion video and other video . And while he was doing this he told me on a relax tone that he will pay for any damage ... and all that in a 25 km wind . we filmed it and got it on video of a member of the club ( i still need to run after this guy to put a hand on this damed video ) ... he landed it after 7 minutes and told every one that he whant one ... the only thing he found sad about the L10 is there is no driven tail in auto ... **** ... i did'nt realise the potential of this helicopter and combo and how powerfull hight voltage can be . I put 1700mh back in the pack and he flew it 3 other time in the after noon . I almost cry seing MY helicopter being trown around like that . Think i will become member of this club even if it's an hour drive from home .

I still banged my head that i dismised my video camera when i whent there ...

High voltage IS the way to go ... no mather the combo that you will choose ...

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05-31-2004 07:50 PM  13 years agoPost 40
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Sounds like you had a great time, I'd like to see the video once you get a hold of it. I called ICARE and they said my controller was in stock and would ship last week, so it should show up this week sometime.

I still need to order packs. TP is going with a new safety device on the new packs avaiable the the first half of June. I'm debating to wait for those or to order a set of Gen 2's and just fly. My main concern still is having the packs and not being able to fit them in the carbon frames due to the headroom. It would have been excellent if novaman stretched the lower part of the frames down to allow about a 1/4 inch more for battery room, it would be the perfect frame setup for the 8S2P or two 4S2P's. I'd hate to have to go back tot he stock frames.

Rick

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