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04-27-2002 11:39 PM  15 years agoPost 1
Sillyness

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What is the intent of gluing the stock woodies?:

1)To bond the plastic to the wood, in which case expoxy would be better.

2) To reinforce a poor factory bond between the wood in the blade root and the wood in the rest of the blade... if this is the case, would thin CA work better?

Just curious, all in the name of not killing myself or my friends/family.

L8r,
j

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04-28-2002 03:35 AM  15 years agoPost 2
Gearhead

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For the reason, so your Raptor doesn't throw a main blade on it's third flight (like mine did),,, for the reason, so there wont be $220 in damage when it throws a main blade, (like mine),,, for the reason, so you wont have to wait 4 months to save the money to fly again (like me),,, for the reason, so you will not be pissed off about it, (like I was),,,,,, but then again, my friend has flown his two Raptor 30s for 2 years and has just glued his blade grips for the first time !!,,, he has never had a problem,,, go-figure !!

the Wasp

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04-28-2002 04:25 AM  15 years agoPost 3
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Try this.

Do a search on "Gluing Wood Blades," this topic has been covered many times. And also the aftermath has also been posted by those that did not. Also keep in mind that there is also a lead weight about 2" or so from the end of the blade. Blade tip speed is somewhere in the neighborhood of 350-450mph. CA glue penetrates quite well into the balsa (that's why you have to cut the plastic wrap out from under the blade grip before gluing.) Now knowing how fast it moves, do you think that 1/2" or so of balsa wood will hold in the grip from the centrifugal force all the time. Do you really want to take the chance, the above post should be enough to make you think, if it doesn't then I recommend you do a search on the topic in this forum, then come to your on conclusion.

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04-28-2002 03:01 PM  15 years agoPost 4
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I realize that I need to glue the blades.... in fact I'm terrified to fly without.

My question is: Is CA better to use than the cheap epoxy supplied with the kit. Do they supply epoxy because it's cheaper for them to throw a smidge of that in than a tube of spendy CA.

Thanks for you replies,

j

P.S.- I think I'm just gonna order V-Blades

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04-28-2002 03:14 PM  15 years agoPost 5
z11355

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you can 'just buy Vblades' if you want but when you crash (and you
will), you will kick yourself for putting $110 blades on a $220 machine.

Just glue the wood roots on w/ either CA or 30 min epoxy. I rough
up the inside of the plastic roots and then C clamp them to get a
good bond.

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04-29-2002 08:50 AM  15 years agoPost 6
nedyah

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I used Thin "CA" glue, as that's what the instructions said to use in my manual. I also used "CA" because it penetrates into the wood and strengthen it as well as gluing the plastic grips onto the blade.

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04-29-2002 09:32 AM  15 years agoPost 7
justme

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use CA+epoxy

use CA with the root itself (apply thin CA on the wood surfcae) and ull see how the glue penetrates the inside of the blade root.
than put the plastic grips while applying some more thin CA, and after u put the plastic grips together, apply some epoxy (2 ton if available) to seal it off and strengthen the whole thing even better.
But for the matter of fact thin CA alone is good enough.

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05-02-2002 05:05 PM  15 years agoPost 8
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Sam's Club???

I want to shop where z11355 shops!!!

If could buy a kit, Receiver, Gyro, 5 servos, Engine, Muffler, Clutch Shim, Battery, Voltwatch, Throttle Arm, Header Tank, Frame Brace, and Remote Glow Extension for $220 instead of the more typical $1000, I have to believe I would have a whole fleet of Raptors. There'd be so many buzzing around that they would have to spray for them in my neighborhood.

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05-03-2002 02:54 AM  15 years agoPost 9
nedyah

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I think you'll find that "z11355" was referring that $220 for the "R30" Kit only, is not worth it.

Which I would not spend that amount of money on. When cheaper blades will do the job.

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05-03-2002 04:59 AM  15 years agoPost 10
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I'm not trying to start any sort of arguement here, but here's my thinking...

I have a Raptor that flies great... granted, I've never flown a Fury extreme .91, but all in all, my lil' Rappy is smooth, it responds well, and it watches the house while I'm gone (my wife has named it "Fido").

To me, spending a thousand dollars on a kit alone, then buying V-blades to boot seems a lot like traditional government thinking... if you have money in something you might as well throw more money at it.

Why not pamper my little Rappy? I'm not going to go nuts and upgrade to a metal head and all (after all, aluminum has a fatigue life where as the nylon composites practically don't).

What makes an airplane fly well? Keeping the pointy end forward and having a great wing. Why should a rotory wing be any different?

As for crashing... I'll be a lot less upset crashing my raptor with V's than would crashing a Vario-Mammoth with V's.

Anyhow, it's late, I'm tired, and I'm rambling.

Good night all, and sleep tight.

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05-03-2002 01:50 PM  15 years agoPost 11
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I'm not saying that the "R30" is not worth spending too much money on. I have one too and think it's a great Heli. It's just that personally I wouldn't spend that amount of money on blades for it. I would rather put it towards a new Heli. I'm also not saying that V'blades aren't any good, I'm sure they are excellent blades for their price. But if you want to spend that on your Rappy to make it look better, go ahead I'm sure you will be very happy with it.

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