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04-22-2002 08:17 PM  15 years agoPost 1
ChrisMoore

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I jus read Rays authoratative Helicopter Manual, i couldnt agree more with his logic to set 50 percent throttle and hover pitch to meet at 2/4 stick. who out there has their heli set up like this?

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04-22-2002 08:20 PM  15 years agoPost 2
z11355

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04-22-2002 11:45 PM  15 years agoPost 3
Itsindilas

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Personally, I prefer to have both 1/4 and 3/4 points nearest to the middle stick point because it seems to me more convinient. So, in order to archive it I set up my pitch for 6 and -6 deg instead of 5 and -5 deg. In this way the stick changes are easier when you play move from negative to positive and via versa.

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04-23-2002 01:09 AM  15 years agoPost 4
jonnyergo

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U wana be hovering at mid stick. its much better. thats all i have to say.

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04-23-2002 01:11 AM  15 years agoPost 5
ChrisMoore

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whats your reasoning for hovering at half stick? is it because its what you learned and what everyone else is doing?

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04-23-2002 01:25 AM  15 years agoPost 6
03fomoco

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3/4 stick

Personally I like hovering at approx 3/4 so that idle 1 and 2 sort of line up with normal. I set the throttle curve so that the very last part of the stick in normal is a bail out setup. I.E. about 90% pitch and 100% throttle. It just seems to make hovering in normal and idle one feel similiar. Just my 1/2 cent and most likely wrong but what does it matter as long as the person flying it can get good results.


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04-23-2002 01:52 AM  15 years agoPost 7
jonnyergo

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hey chris. I just wanna create a boost to this conversation. Ive only been flying for helis for 10 and just starting circuits&nose in hovering so my point of view is pointless.

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04-23-2002 02:24 AM  15 years agoPost 8
driftrider

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I prefer the switchless inverted setup (hover at 3/4, inverted hover at 1/4 in idle-up). Just remember that the actual stick position that the bird hovers is not as important as the having a linear pitch curve (or very close to it) and having the throttle curve set so the rotor speed stays as close to constant as possible. My heli, with the rotor speed at 1500 RPM and the pitch curve at (-9,-4.5,0,5,10) the heli will hover at a little above 3/4 stick. If I up the RPMs to 1650 it will hover at tad below 3/4 stick because the higher rotor speed allows the blades to create the same amount of lift with less pitch. Eventually you'll just get used to where the hover point is for your setup.

Using switchless inverted setup from the start makes you learn finer control of the collective and sets you up for FFF, aerobatics and 3D.

Mike

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04-23-2002 02:50 AM  15 years agoPost 9
ChrisMoore

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driftrider

if using the '3/4' stick setup will help me learn finer control of the collective and help prepare me for FFF, aerobatics, and 3d...then thats a good enough of a reason to use the setup. thanks for the feedback.

chris

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04-23-2002 03:14 AM  15 years agoPost 10
rchelipilot

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3/4stick

I hover just below 3/4 stick center stick is 0 pitch reason it's a little below 3/4 because I like the collective a little touchy around center
inverted hover is the same.On my normal flight mode I do hover at center stick I just compensate for the drop when I flip the switch my head speed also goes up another 150 RPM in idle up!

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04-23-2002 12:15 PM  15 years agoPost 11
ed vega

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linear pitch curve here. with carb barrel mix.

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04-23-2002 01:02 PM  15 years agoPost 12
Virtual1

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I started with 1/2 but decided to go to 3/4 recently since I hope to get started into acrobatics shortly and I don't think inverted flying would be smooth & easy to manage if normal is 1/2 stick. (unless you're doing switched inverted, which is apparently not very popular)

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04-23-2002 02:14 PM  15 years agoPost 13
ChrisMoore

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what's carb barrel mix?

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04-23-2002 02:31 PM  15 years agoPost 14
Malorie

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For hovering, ie normal flight mode, I prefer 1/2 stick. The reason is simple, when you set up a curve for a specific purpose, you want your most used pitch at center stick. You get the most feel at center stick.

My idle up is a linear pitch curve, that puts 0 degrees pitch in the middle and hover some where around 1/4 and 3/4. Of course it isn't exactly linear because as you all know (I'm certain), helis fly differently inverted and the pitch demands are different.

A lot of people prefer the 3/4 stick position for hover because it is easier to transition to idle up unnoticably. Usually once I'm in idle up, which I usually do on a climb out, I stay there for most of the flight.

Just my 1/2, 3/4 cents worth,
Mal'

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04-23-2002 06:29 PM  15 years agoPost 15
ed vega

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chrismoore,
adds a leaner mixture from rich when you program it and you want the higher throttle power curve. you need a extra servo attached to the needles. it squeases the barrel alittle more. mixed with the pitch function on a futaba 9ch at full pitch -10+10 or what ever your max pitch is .

returns back to rich normal setting in a hover real nice . you program an extra unused switch position for this to work . linked master/slave functions. it's not the same but similiar as set it and forget it constant throttle. but with the added mixture offset on demand.

you have the option of turning it on/off at any time during flight.

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