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HelicopterMain Discussion › What fuel produces the LEAST amount of smoke?
04-22-2002 06:36 PM  15 years agoPost 1
Harbinger

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Im currently running cp 30% and love the fuel but it makes too much smoke. Sometimes its very distracting through certain maneuvers. Ive heard wildcat produces less smoke. Any opinions?

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04-22-2002 06:49 PM  15 years agoPost 2
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smoke

Wildcat 30% certainly does smoke less than CP30% but CP25 or 20% smokes dramatically less also. If you need the nitro, try the Wildcat.

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04-22-2002 06:59 PM  15 years agoPost 3
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5% nitro if you can find it .

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04-22-2002 07:16 PM  15 years agoPost 4
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Smoke or no smoke, Cool Power 30% is pretty hard to beat..don

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04-22-2002 08:23 PM  15 years agoPost 5
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Fury Flyer,
I tried the Wildcat in my heli as that was all I ran in my airplanes but couldn't get it to run as well as the CP 30%. To give it an honest test I probably should have run more through it than a couple of tanks though!

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04-22-2002 09:27 PM  15 years agoPost 6
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Fuel Adjustment

Rotor,
When you switch from CP30 to WC30 it will take some time for the motor to Settle down as it is now operating at a different temperature (about 20 degrees cooler in my tests) and in essence must re-break in. It took my YS61ST2 about 2 gallons before it settled down and ran smoothly. I started a motor on WC30 and it ran good from the very beginning.

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04-22-2002 10:05 PM  15 years agoPost 7
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I used CP 15 in my nexus, it had just a light haze of smoke. it still had good power aswell. try some CP15 see how you like it. the smoke is the icing on the cake!

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04-23-2002 12:26 AM  15 years agoPost 8
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Hey Furyflyer, if a fuel smokes 100% less than CP 30, that means no smoke at all. I would start to worry.

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04-23-2002 01:49 AM  15 years agoPost 9
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Smokeless, now that would take some getting used to after Cool Power 30%!!!!

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04-23-2002 02:39 AM  15 years agoPost 10
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That was meant as a joke, but since you brought it up, you stated that all helimix Wildcat fuel smokes 100% less than CP 30%. From that I guess you mean that all Wildcat heli fuels are completly smokeless?

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04-23-2002 03:08 AM  15 years agoPost 11
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Gotcha

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04-23-2002 03:17 AM  15 years agoPost 12
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Least?

Well, though no one has mentioned it; if you want to get right to the point.......gasers smoke the LEAST!
I know you probably were referring to nitro fuel,but you did ask "what FUEL" smokes least.....so that's my answer.....did I win???

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04-23-2002 03:25 AM  15 years agoPost 13
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Least?

I would like to thank my producer, my fellow pilots, the academy, my dog and everyone who supported me during this wonderful time. You all know who you are.

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04-23-2002 03:44 AM  15 years agoPost 14
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Seriously, I may try Wildcat again, because Gordie says it works well and I trust his opinion. Less smoke won't hurt. I wish I could get it at a cheaper price though, the local dealer( a very big dealer at that, he keeps hundreds of kits for planes, a great deal of them ARF, several dozen radios, maybe a hunderd and fifty engines and some heli kits and stuff, all in stock. He also is very good at special ordering stuff at a good discont.) wants almost identically the same price for it as he charges for CP30. As for the smokeless fuel, I don't think I'm ready to try that. Everything I've heard on it says that the needle settings become super critical. One click too much and there goes an engine. Maybe some day in the future when they develope much better lubricant packages.

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04-23-2002 03:50 AM  15 years agoPost 15
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Easy Answer

Gas mixed 75:1

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04-23-2002 03:59 AM  15 years agoPost 16
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Smokeless

Dyehard,

The "Smokeless" fuel is a pure contest fuel and does take some getting used to. First, you have to set the engine by ear, since you don't have the smoke as an indicator. It is not "extremely" sensitive and after numerous flights the engine was torn down with no significant wear. The engine was sent to YS for analysis and was given a clean bill of health. The fuel is only sold through Wildcat directly and is recommended for contest use only, that is simply because most guys at that level are able to set up an engine by sound anyway. Our standard Heli fuels use a "Low smoke factor oil" produced for us by Klotz and is very low smoking (see advertisement Model Airplane News).

Jerry

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04-23-2002 05:00 AM  15 years agoPost 17
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Runryder Benefit....

Howdy!!!
I heard everyone talking about my favorite fuel, so I thought I would chime in... I heard about Wildcat on this forum, and am very glad I did.. I got tired of paying $24.00 a gallon for CP 30% and was looking to switch to 15% and a Musclepipe.. I have never liked CP 15%, but could find no other local all synthetic fuel.. So I tried the Wildcat 18% oil/15%nitro fuel and have enjoyed LOTS of COOL smooth POWER since.. This stuff rules. I get lots of compliments on how well my engine runs (61SX).. I will pay to mail order it if I can't get it locally. It's the best 15% nitro fuel I have EVER used.. And.. it smells great!!!!

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04-23-2002 05:02 AM  15 years agoPost 18
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Lets not forget that Powermaster Fuels also has a low smoke fuel. There is a choice for all people out there. But what I find kinda funny is when someone says there engine runs better and smoother after they try someone elses fuel. These are the same guys that you give a glass of pepsi too, and then another glass of pepsi too, and then ask them which one is Coke, and they say the second one.

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04-23-2002 05:24 AM  15 years agoPost 19
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Alan....

Howdy!!!
I did try PowerMaster 15% fuel,and it does run good, though not as well as the WC. I even used 3 gallons of it, because the hobby shop I had been using was in the process of changing locations when I needed fuel.. I went to another, much further away shop that sells only PM fuels. The PM is acutually a buck cheaper a gallon than the WC, PM is located about 40 miles from where I live. The owner of Power Master is a member of the club I belong to here in Austin.. He's a nice guy and donates fuel to the club to use for prizes at events... Power Master would be my second choice if I could'nt get WildCat...

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04-23-2002 06:16 AM  15 years agoPost 20
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PowerMaster might be my second choice as well. At least the guys at IRCHA seemed to really talk it up. I used 15% WC and now use 20%. I get complements on the way my engine sounds and performs by many at the field including those who only fly airplanes. I think they mostly like the lack of smoke.

I found a neat idea on the internet you guys might want to try for checking your engine temp. I found it while looking for on board temp gages. It records maximum and is dirt cheap. You can get it at Wal-Mart! I've not tried it yet, but might this weekend.

http://teamrcv.com/article.php?sid=43

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