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04-26-2002 02:48 PM  15 years agoPost 41
Phoenix-IT

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Yea the manual is good, but some of the illustrations in it are of a different helicopter.

BTW My setup is going to be:

Hitech HS-425DBB servos on the swash & throttle
Futaba 9253 servo on the tail
Futaba GY401 Gyro
Futaba 9CH & R148DP
Hirobo 36 Engine (1.3 HP!) with Century Torpedo Pipe

Chad

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04-26-2002 03:11 PM  15 years agoPost 42
JoFromStLouis

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Manual errors

Guys, just to clarify, the pic of the motor mount direction in the manual is wrong. You must install it upside down from what the directions show for proper clutch alignment. I will be flying tomorrow so expect a flight report on Monday.

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04-26-2002 03:22 PM  15 years agoPost 43
aashu

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Thanks

Thanks JoFrom..

I noticed that too ! Also it shows that aluminum hub type washer On Engine shaft stays while assembling the Fan/clutch . Is that true..?

See page 11 (instruction 2-1)

Thanks all !

Garden State, NJ

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04-26-2002 03:28 PM  15 years agoPost 44
aashu

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tailwhip

TailWhip , it starts exactly like Raptor and uses 6mm start shaft ..
Engine is mounted same way as Raptor except faces rear (i guess that will help maintain
counter baance the fuel tank weight and it can come down easily as raptor . I am not
sure about the pull start though . IF you can use it in Raptor , I guess you can use it
on this too . Someone else has any idea ?

Garden State, NJ

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04-26-2002 03:35 PM  15 years agoPost 45
JoFromStLouis

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aashu

yes, the fan/ clutch assembly is ment to mount onto the thick aluminum hub on the engine (hard to explain, but its the mount a prop would sit against on a plank)

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04-26-2002 03:45 PM  15 years agoPost 46
Taipan

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I guess the hub serves as a flywheel.

Keep it up guys, I'm interested to see how it'll go. Although I'll never fly mine as have enough helis & don't want to take on another brand. One is enough & need the cash from selling it to keep the others going. That is my story & I'm stickin' with it!

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04-26-2002 04:09 PM  15 years agoPost 47
Doug

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I guess a helicopter is a helicopter

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04-26-2002 04:17 PM  15 years agoPost 48
Zxyxx

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A Venture 50 would be in a different league than a Voyager 50.

I don't see why JR would compete on TT's and Hirobo's level with a plastic fantastic and then buck the trend by not making it upgradeable to a 50. I'd bet money that a conversion is in the works, if not already complete.

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04-26-2002 04:32 PM  15 years agoPost 49
JoFromStLouis

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agreed

all you have to do is look at the fan shroud and the mounts for dual tail boom supports to know that it was designed to be upgraded to a 50.

I am thrilled that JR is making plastic as I have had nothing but headaches and hassles with raptors. It's time for someone to step up and build a cheap machine that does not wah wah, woof and poof, eat clutches, and come prepackaged with a terrible motor (TT). I know there are many who love their TT's and have no problems with their raptors and thats great.

Say what you will about Whoreizon, I've had nothing but positive dealings with them and IF (time will tell) the Venture can fly without exhibiting these or similar misbehaviors it WILL replace the raptor as the beginner/ throw around heli to have.

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04-26-2002 04:32 PM  15 years agoPost 50
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Quite possible !!!!!!!!!!!

Could be true..

that makes life easier.. I do see that it is easily upgradable though (looking at the engine mount area /fan shroud etc)

Garden State, NJ

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04-26-2002 05:10 PM  15 years agoPost 51
Avropilot

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We had a JR Rep at the field yesterday flying one.I have to say I was impressed with the plastic wonder. Seems to me it would be a great machine to learn the 3D tricks on before you try it with say your Pro II K.
I have an ergo and do believe that ugly canopy will fit it.

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04-27-2002 02:19 AM  15 years agoPost 52
Bigfish

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Manual

You guys must have an older manual ....... I just looked through mine and ther are no diagrams showing stacked frames (unless you mean the swash plate diagrams on 29,30 and 31) .... what other pages?

I am using the OS32 engine and the figure in section 2-1 on page 11 seems to be correct (shorter distance to the top) - there is an addendum at the start of the manual that points out that the longer distance goes at the top for the Webra motor.

I noticed that the fan has an aluminun hub unlike the picture posted of the Australian model earlier .... that appears to be all plastic.

Mine arrived yesterday from Heliproz ....... Oh and I really like the canopy - the new Voyager 50 (mini Vigor) canopy will fit if you like that one .....

BF.

PS I would not worry about the "plastic" engine mount ..... I am an engineer in the automotive industry and there are much thinner plastic parts used in a modern day V6 engine like the ones you may have in your garage

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04-27-2002 02:49 AM  15 years agoPost 53
Raj Patel

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Venture 30

I personally looked a venture 30 over in Wichita. It was brought by a JR rep.

I thought it was designed very sturdy and looks pretty darn good, BUT, I did notice that the static tracking was off by about 1 inch!!!!!!

This is possible WOOF material :+)

I suspect either his spindle is bent, or head block is molded crooked???

Any observations from anyone on this list who has built one would be appreciated.

Raj

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04-27-2002 03:02 AM  15 years agoPost 54
tailwhip

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thanks aashu

Thanks for the info.
I'm glad we have this site to share info. keep it up guys!
Does that shaft come with the venture or will I have to purchase it seperately if my pullstart wont work?

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04-27-2002 04:17 AM  15 years agoPost 55
Bigfish

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Hex Starter

Does anyone else have two starter hex adapters in their kit ?

I just fitted one and then noticed there is another one in a small bag stapled to the big bag?

Here is a link to the pictures of the Venture 30 that I took at Toledo if anyone wants to use them as reference ......

Venture at Toledo

BF.

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04-27-2002 04:24 AM  15 years agoPost 56
Buzzin Brian

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Hey Raj, I see you made it home OK. It was cool getting to meet you, as well as seeing your Nexus kicking some major drag raceing but.

As for the static tracking thing, I saw this as well. Perhaps HeliHut will have a metal head block for this bird like the one for the Raptor. Or not. But one can hope cant he?

I did apear to fly very well though.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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04-27-2002 05:31 AM  15 years agoPost 57
sluggo

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I checked out Scott Grays today and the tracking was perfect. He has carbon blades on it so maybe it is the stock woddies. Steve Gray had his out a couple weeks ago with the stock wood blades and seemed to fly great (not sure of the static tracking on his 30) with no signs of woof poof or any other bad things, the seemed to rip it up great even with stock woodies.

Chris

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04-27-2002 05:33 AM  15 years agoPost 58
Buzzin Brian

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Nope the woodies wasn't what was causing it. The one at Wichita had V blades on it. Nice try though.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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04-27-2002 06:02 AM  15 years agoPost 59
Taipan

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Bigfish, actually the fan has a metal hub moulded into the bottom.

Did anyone get clutch shoes with partially drilled mounting holes? Either the buyer or I will have to drill it out fully.

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04-27-2002 04:34 PM  15 years agoPost 60
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I got one too. I am impressed with the rigidity of the frames. Much stiffer than Raptor 30 or even the Sceadu 50 that I have. The engine went in with the mount direction shown in the manual no problem. The t/r ptitch lever has a metal ball not plastic! All the preassembled linkages on the head assembly must have had the JR sizing tool treatment because they are very smooth and they even look like they were pre-sized. Overall I am very impressed with the quality of the plastic, seems very strong and rigid and the overall parts and the way it was preassembled. There is really not much to do to get this heli flying. One question I have is regarding the servo choice for this heli. On the one hand, it's CCPM so that means the servos work together and theoritically you don't need alot of torque. The manual strongly suggests using the heavy duty arms that come with the kit (that is really cool of JR to include them!) but it also strongly suggests to use the 20mm hole on the servo arms so there is no adverse interaction with the CCPM system. 20mm out on the arm is a lot! This means that your ATV will probably wind up below 100% and the torque of the servo is much less at that distance. If people use the cheap servos wouldn't this create potential problems as the mechanical advantage is much less at 20mm out? What do you guys think?

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