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04-24-2002 08:20 PM  15 years agoPost 21
Zxyxx

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Venture

I'm picking up my Venture today. I'll fly it this weekend and let you know the good and bad. I've owned 4 R30s, so I have a point of comparison.

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04-25-2002 03:29 PM  15 years agoPost 22
JoFromStLouis

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got it built

well my venture is 100% complete and ready to go. I will fly this weekend and post some notes but for now here's a few details from the build..
1) part of the blade holders need to be removed via xacto knife if you want the blades to fold into a holder. do this before balancing (the woodies were very close to perfect balance.
2) the servo wires from the rear servos will not reach the receiver without xtensions. Plan on 2 extensions to get the wires to where the need to go.
3) In order to get my clutch to line up properly, I had to run the motor mount upside down from what the instructions say.
4) the battery holder is slick and I was able to squeeze an 1800 xtra pac in there.
5) be careful in muffler choice as the hatori I am running required very minor surgery to the frame to clear.
6) watch the run of the servo wires to the rear as they can interfere with both the rudder pushrod and the ccpm pushrod.

other than that, this kit went togeather like butter and it took me 4 hours to complete and program.
oh, one more thing, I LIKE THE CANOPY!!!!!
jo

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04-25-2002 04:05 PM  15 years agoPost 23
aashu

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Cool

Thats cool dude ! seems to me like everything is good so far .. Can you atleast post some pictures of yr setup ! I hope my TT muffler may fit well in it ..

Thanks

Garden State, NJ

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04-25-2002 04:09 PM  15 years agoPost 24
Zxyxx

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I am impressed with the quality of the Venture. If this thing flies as well as it's quality suggests, JR has a winner.

Problems:
I had to carve the frame a little to insert the lower muffler bolt.

One of my blades were warped. -- I will be returning the set to my LHS today. They are Revolution brand. I like the look of the Raptor blades much better.

I'm having a problem getting the clutch to line up properly. -- I will try JoFromStLouis's fix.

The instructions for servo reversing were backward from what is suggested in the manual.

These are minor problems that are easily fixed. The guys at the field were impressed also.

Of course, nothing matters if the Venture doesn't fly well. But I expect it will.

It seems to be slightly heavier than the Raptor, however, I think the frame is beefy because of an impending 50 upgrade. The frame is equipped to handle single and dual boom supports and the amount of clearance in the fan shroud would easily accomodate a .50.

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04-25-2002 04:21 PM  15 years agoPost 25
BladeRunner

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Bag???????

Steve Campbell2, .........ROTFLMAO!!
"uncontrolable urge to wear a bag over my head".....hahahahehe......Steve.....you crack me up;
I can picture that in my mind.....the unknown comic flys helis!!! hehehe.

I have always said that the Raptor has a face "even a mother couldn't love". Even if the Raptor had a nice pork chop around it's frame.....the dog wouldn't play with it!

But on the same note; I have never said that it couldn't fly very well,( I haven't flown one) by all accounts the Raptors are capable flyers right out of the box without a million dollars in upgrades.

It's just my personal opinion that those things are butt ugly. However that does not say anything about how well they fly.

"Bag over my head"....I'm still trying to get my coffee down!!!.

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04-25-2002 04:26 PM  15 years agoPost 26
JoFromStLouis

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asshu

I would assume your tt muffler will fit because it utilizes thinner flanges than the hatori. even so, VERY minor clearancing is all that is required. I dont have a digital camera. specs:
531 cyclic/collective
4735 throttle
5000/ 8700 gyro
Os 32
Hatori (for ergo 30)
1800 xtra pac
649 PCM

ZXX? - were the leads on your rear sevos long enough? I have 531's and they will not reach without extensions.
Flip that motor mount over and your clutch will be perfect. also dont forget to check runout. there was a huge difference in mine when I mounted the clutch both ways

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04-25-2002 04:38 PM  15 years agoPost 27
aashu

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Thanks

Thanks for info .. Here is what I am going with

OS32
Hitech 615MG x3
Hitech 525 HS MG for Throttle
GY401+9253
New TT muffler
JR 1100 niCD Battery

Hope to hear from you guys sooon ... can't wait to get mine .
I guess those clutch fixs and small adjustments donot matter if it flies well .. My rappy has/had clutch problems too ...

Keep posted

Garden State, NJ

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04-25-2002 05:50 PM  15 years agoPost 28
Zxyxx

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My servo leads weren't long enough. I'm using 4131s. I should have mine ready to fly tonight. I still have to get the extensions and a switch.

Specs:
4131 cyclic
4735 throttle
401/9253 gyro
TT .36 (Mine runs well)
KSJ muffler
1500 maH battery

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04-25-2002 06:20 PM  15 years agoPost 29
JoFromStLouis

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thanks

thanks for confirming the servo leads deal. its kinda cool being in on the ground floor of a new heli. I'm sure there will be many issues as time progresses. thanks again

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04-25-2002 06:52 PM  15 years agoPost 30
Phoenix-IT

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I've seen some guys talking about paddles for these.... saying they tried KSJ and they are pitchy (usually are) and some were going to try V-Paddles.

What are the second pair of paddles included in the kit? Are those KSJ or are they made by JR? Has anyone tried them?

Chad

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04-25-2002 07:00 PM  15 years agoPost 31
JoFromStLouis

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paddles

the "hot rod" paddles are KSJs. The "beginner" paddles are adjustable in that you can add or subtract weight to them. I dont believe Vic is making 30 sized paddles YET so Vpaddles are out. On the KSJ's rounding the leading edge takes out the pitchyness very nicely.

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04-25-2002 07:15 PM  15 years agoPost 32
sluggo

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The secound set of paddles in the kit are made by ksj. The little wing on the end is to stop them from being pitchy in FFF. Scott G had them on his Venture 30 last weekend and they worked great. They had alot of roll and flip rate and was very stable in FF.

Chris

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04-25-2002 07:20 PM  15 years agoPost 33
JoFromStLouis

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so both sets are made by KSJ?

I knew the optional ones were, but I did not realize that the ones with the airfoil were as well. Why in the world would Scott Grey be using the airfoiled paddles as opossed to the thinner lighter ones? Seems odd. Thanks for the info

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04-25-2002 08:06 PM  15 years agoPost 34
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I think he has been testing the paddels for ksj for some time now. He is also using them on his vigor. From his flights with the 30 last weekend the paddels are all you will need for normal and 3d flying. The heli performed great and was able to do anything he wanted it to do.

It will be interesting to see how the heli holds up after a season of hard 3d. I also talked to Scott about the motor mount and he did not seem to be mind it was plastic at all. Also for you guys that do not like the look of the canopy Steve Gray sells mini vigor glass canopies that are made for ergo 30 to 46 but will fit the venture geat. here is a link to his site

http://members.rogers.com/flite-craft/

One area that I think needs beefing up is the boom supports. The kit only comes with one like the ergo's. When I had my ergo 30 a good heading hold gyro would wag do to not anuf support in that area so two may help.

Chris

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04-26-2002 01:02 AM  15 years agoPost 35
tailwhip

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Just ordered one!

HI!
I just ordered a venture today from Horizon!
They said the first batch sold out and the second is selling fast.
I asked them about the muffler,they said use a 30 size.
so I got one from them.not sure what it is.
I told them I was going to use an OS. said it would work.
They carry webra , will I have any problems?
How does it start? can I use my pull start OS? or will I have to buy a different engine?
How are the blades that come with it? should I get different ones?
are the reps flying with the stock ones?

Thanks
Dennis

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04-26-2002 01:05 AM  15 years agoPost 36
Horacio

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I just ordered two of them today! One for me and one for friend just getting into the hobby. I ordered mine from Heli World. Heli, Os 32, and muffler for $374.95!!!!! I fly ONLY Furys, but this one really got my attention. Only 5 hrs of labor incl. programming!! I'll thrash on it this weekend for sure! Maybe even teach my father how to hover!! It seems like a fun heli to kick around and try things I don't care to subject my Fury to.....like the GROUND!!!!!

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04-26-2002 03:03 AM  15 years agoPost 37
tetsuo1

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50 Upgrade???

I have not seen information anywhere that says there will be a 50 upgrade for this heli.

JR already has a 50 heli available... it would seem odd to me that they would make this heli upgradeable to compete with their own 50.

Jason

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04-26-2002 05:43 AM  15 years agoPost 38
Buzzin Brian

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I saw one demoed this weekend myself in Wichita Kansas, and I to was impressed. It would do anything that the pilot wanted it to. And he was really letting it have it. It also apeared to auto quite well. Other that a set of V blades on it, it was stock. And apeared to be a great new bird. I am not crazy about the canopy as well. But by what I saw of its performance, I do definatly think it deserves a chance. Only time will tell from this point. You guys that have them, keep us imformed.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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04-26-2002 01:50 PM  15 years agoPost 39
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I think the canopy looks alright... it's not a butt-ugly big toe with a black toenail like the Voyager E canopy.... or a pelican with a mouth full of fish like the Raptor canopy.

For those of you that have one... Have you noticed the illustration errors in the manual? There is more than one picture of a heli with stacked metal frames, you can even see the hex couplers between the frames.... I think it's the Ergo CCPM. As a matter of fact in one illustration it shows the elevator servo mount as vertical, where as the Venture's is horizontal.

I really do think it's a plastic Ergo.... This makes sense... If they use as many Ergo parts as they can in the design it's going to help several things. First, it will get to market faster because allot of the parts are already available in the warehouse. (We've seen this.) Second, the overall cost of the model will be less because with fewer NEW parts they won't have to retool as much of their factories. Third, retailers are already going to have some parts in stock before the kits even arrive. (Mine does, fuel tank, tail boom... etc.)

Well thought and executed JR!

Chad

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04-26-2002 02:39 PM  15 years agoPost 40
aashu

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Hey ! manual is good

Someone complained about

part of the blade holders need to be removed
Servos need extension..

I guess it is already mentioned in the Manual . .. I like the instructions.. much better than Raptor manual ..Well ! that does not mean I donot like my raptor !

Garden State, NJ

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