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01-26-2018 03:12 AM  88 days agoPost 1
sjgusmc21

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No deal, no DACA, no freak'n illegal aliens! They broke the D@MN law....get out NOW!

Don't do it Mr President....you are making a deal with the devil.

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01-26-2018 03:36 AM  88 days agoPost 2
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Just imagine a Democrat talking points tooting his horn:

1)Illegals had children with no choice of theirs to come to America! You gonna deport them? They have no knowledge of their former country.

2)DACA people are members of our society from all varieties of employment.

3)You are being a bigot for deporting DACA KIDS!

4)DACA kids pay taxes too, are they entitled too?

5)Constitution affords DACA their due process!

Just a few examples:

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01-26-2018 03:49 AM  88 days agoPost 3
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I'm not imagining anything....and I don't care what they say or think.

If you are illegal...OUT NOW.

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01-26-2018 03:55 AM  88 days agoPost 4
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I'm not imagining anything....and I don't care what they say or think.
If you are illegal...OUT NOW.
I hear you! Nothing is going to get fixed. We are just going to keep losing piece by piece until there is nothing left of America.

It is actually 3.6 million FYI.

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01-26-2018 01:40 PM  88 days agoPost 5
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'It is actually 3.6 million FYI.'

Yeah, I know, but I was quoting the POTUS. That is just another reason to say...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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01-26-2018 01:41 PM  88 days agoPost 6
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But, a deal is going to have to be made, regardless.
1.) I'm hard core conservative and even I would say there's no fair way to deport those kids. Deport them to where?? To who??? Want to deport them, fine. But let's start with the adults that are in prison and proceed from there, we can't even do that right anymore. Deporting those kids should be the last of the deportations.
2.) So, in the meantime, give them temp residence, and in exchange, we fire up the deportation machine and start chucking them back over the border by the bushel.
3.) Also in exchange, we immediately fund construction of the wall (making up for it by taking that money out of the foreign aid given to those countries).
4.) We permanently end chain migration and the visa lottery.

If DACA kids are their piority as they claim (and we know it's not), then we've just called their bluff. We'll give you DACA in exchange for controlling our border. The Dims won't sign off on that and we'll have called their bluff. Then proceed to hang it around their necks in 2018 like a millstone.

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01-26-2018 01:58 PM  88 days agoPost 7
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fla heli boy
I would say there's no fair way to deport those kids
Kids??? what kids? the average age for a DACA recipient is like 24... the Kids you are referring to are those that are coming over on the chain... that is a completely different issue.

and That is the key to getting this issue fixed for good... I think we need to break up the whole problem into its individual parts... scrap the bad ideas,,, alter the good ones and dont make any new ones...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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01-26-2018 02:02 PM  88 days agoPost 8
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Not disagreeing with you Florida. But, you have to draw the line somewhere. And when you draw that line, you have to mean it. I agree that this will go no where, the Dems will never agree to a wall. Especially with all the crap Schmucker has taken on caving to the POTUS. The Gov will be shutdown again...and I'm good with that. Shut-r down....let them scream and whine like the little demon liberal step-children they really are.

Look, I have a heart. I have 5 and 9 year old daughters. It is never the children's fault. But that doesn't mean MY DAUGHTERS have to grow up paying their D@MN bills. And they will. Also, my wife is from the Philippines. H@ll, she bristles more then I do when she see's all these illegal vermin getting free sh#t. We have paid a lot for her to come here legally, and we will pay even more very shortly for her citizenship paperwork.

So yes, I have a heart and yes, I am COMPLETELY OPEN for those that come here LEGALLY. But when it comes to ILLEGAL ALIENS, NO, NO, FOREVER, NO!

Take a stand Mr. President...that is what you were elected for.

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01-26-2018 02:40 PM  88 days agoPost 9
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If it shuts down again start sending them back period. I can assure you there will be a deal on your table in no time.

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

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01-26-2018 02:49 PM  88 days agoPost 10
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they should enact a law that fines each senator/congressman for a shutdown per day to be paid from each of their individual office budgets...

I guarantee you'll never have another shutdown again...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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01-26-2018 02:52 PM  88 days agoPost 11
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Good with that to...but in the long run, its OUR MONEY regardless, as we pay their salaries....how about not paying them period? How's that....worthless bunch of low-life tramps.

Sorry, kind of fired up today. Heck, I even wore my 'America!' red t-shirt into work today....have never not worn a collared shirt to work...everyone else does, but not me.

Just fired up over this entire freak'n sh#t-show.

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01-26-2018 03:41 PM  88 days agoPost 12
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Not a huuge fan of the proposal. BUT, look at it this way. For 8 years Obama PROMISED immigration reform - whiled ABSOLUTELY controlling a filibuster proof Senate, House and Big Chair. Wouldn't it be absolutely EPIC if Trump gets immigration reform in his first two years?

Another Obama FAIL and another Trump WIN.

MAGA!

Steve

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01-26-2018 04:59 PM  88 days agoPost 13
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I understand your theory, and you are not wrong. But I just can't except and I never will, rewarding those that break the law...might as well leave the sanctuary cities alone then. Draw the line and stick to it.

I know what I am saying will never happen. But d@mn if it shouldn't.

YES, by all means, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. But not at the cost of our souls.....

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01-26-2018 05:04 PM  88 days agoPost 14
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But I just can't except and I never will, rewarding those that break the law
I cant do anything but agree with you 100%. We are between a rock and hard place.

Steve

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01-26-2018 05:41 PM  88 days agoPost 15
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As terrible this suggestion is. If we really wanted to stop illegal immigration. Bullets are gonna have to fly and there will be some dead children on the border. It is the only message that the border is locked down and your life is in jeopardy if you invade. Politicians are gutless cowards, but they are happy to send you into war to enrich their bankster buddies. Washingon DC just needs to be nuked, there is no fixing it!

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01-26-2018 05:51 PM  88 days agoPost 16
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Once again, I am not disagreeing with you what so ever.

Fire every d@mn senator and congressman: hold special 30 day elections in each state. If they are good, then they will win again.
Limit EVERY CANDIDATE to 2 million dollars to spend on their campaign and a predetermined free amount of tv and radio air time.
Enact TERM LIMITS-8 years TOTAL.
No one running for the Senate or Congress can gross over 200K a year,
No lawyers,
And whatever laws they pass, THEY MUST FALL UNDER THEM FULLY AS WELL!!!

Arrest all MAYORS AND GOVERNORS that are declaring their cities sanctuary area's.

Build the wall, build it strong, build it right.

ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

Rant off.....

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01-26-2018 07:40 PM  88 days agoPost 17
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The Game has been going on for so long by those in control in DC. When did we the people ever allow Congressman to pass laws and exempt themselves out of. We have created a beast of our own making. Term limits is the only thing that could slow the monster, but that will never happen.

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

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01-28-2018 01:55 AM  86 days agoPost 18
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I can't believe the Trump-a-teers and pom-pom squads are supporting this crap. This is a BAD DEAL. Bad for Americans, Bad for future Americans.

I just can't believe it.....BOHICA!

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01-28-2018 02:23 AM  86 days agoPost 19
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I’m with it if they filter out the DACA by those that are working hard and not on any welfare... if they are leeching off government programs, have a criminal record, or haven’t accomplished graduating from high school, launch them over the boarder... no questions asked. Then stop the chain and lotto program and enact minimum standards for immigration into USA . And include funding for more security. Everybody gets something and everyone gives something up.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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01-28-2018 01:50 PM  86 days agoPost 20
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I will never be for it. We are being duped folks. The dems will get their 1.8 million voters, and btw, you can probably triple that number at the very least. The wall will never be built, and if any part of it is, it will be a small, ineffective portion. Then he can place the blame on the dem's and repubs that de-funded it. Illegal immigration will still grow out of control and the countries demographics will forever be changed. This is a bad , bad deal. The most we can really hope for is that the dems ask for more, Trump actually stands his ground (he didn’t over the wall and a government shutdown) and the entire thing implodes and shuts the government down. Then maybe, and I mean just maybe, some conservatives can get into the play and talk sense to the POTUS. Not holding my breath on this one though.

From Mark Levin:
On Thursday’s Mark Levin show, The White House has done something extremely disappointing; they have taken DACA and expanded it to include Dreamers which brings the number to 1.8 million and offered them citizenship. This is a bigger number than even Barack Obama contemplated. Those outside of the 800,000 are those who did not come forward. Some are crooks and criminals and others didn’t have evidence that they came here as children. But we are told not to worry because of concessions the White House got. After this, Daniel Horowitz of Conservative Review calls in to talk about DACA. The main problem is that the DACA compromise President Trump and the Republicans are engaging in is the wrong mix of ideas and politics. They have lost their leverage and Democrats don’t have any incentive to agree with them. They will just pocket the 1.8 million and not build the wall like Trump had campaigned on. Democrats are just doing to Trump what they did to Ronald Reagan, promise border security while not appropriating the funds when they reclaim power. In addition, you will see the pretend conservatives come out and say: “What do you want perfection”? There is no perfection, that is just a diversion and Republicans are giving Democrats numbers they didn’t even dream of. This is why we need serious people of substance talking about this. Later, FBI agents, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were concerned on being too tough on Hillary Clinton, because she might be their next President. There is your obstruction of justice.

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