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11-13-2017 04:15 AM  6 months agoPost 1
Mattyg36

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Just thinking of going from Nimh to lipo for reliability reasons and was wondering what most of you are running for lipo setups. Chargers, batteries, regulators. Just looking for somewhere to start with my 600n

Thanks!

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11-13-2017 02:15 PM  6 months agoPost 2
JuanRodriguez

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T-rex 600 N here also......
Align 2200 30 C 2S battery

https://www.amainhobbies.com/align-...ASABEgKYgvD_BwE

Align 2 in 1 Voltage Regulator (has built in glo driver)

http://www.lowerheli.com/he50h10-b6...ASABEgIIOfD_BwE

I use the Revolectix PowerLab 6 charger but any decent lipo charger will do....

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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11-13-2017 04:50 PM  6 months agoPost 3
ticedoff8

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Mattyg36
Just thinking of going from Nimh to lipo for reliability reasons and was wondering what most of you are running for lipo setups. Chargers, batteries, regulators. Just looking for somewhere to start with my 600n

Thanks!
I have to assume you do not have any other toys that require a LiPo charger - right?

The important aspect of a LiPo charger is the balancer port.
A 2S (2 cell) LiPo still needs to be balanced as it is charged for longer life and lower risk of fires during charging.

If you never plan to buy any electric helis or other toys that use a 2S to 6S LiPo with a capacity greater than 2200mAh, then there a lot of decent, low current LiPo chargers with balancer ports.

Here is an example of an entry level multi-chemistry charger with a balancer port:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/hitec-...rc44253/p543245

But, if you plan to get a bigger heli or a toy that uses bigger batteries, you cannot go wrong with the iCharger line.
I used the Junsi iCharger units for all my toys. I get them from Buddy RC
My first "real" LiPo charger was the iCharger 306B:
http://www.buddyrc.com/icharger-306b.html
But these bigger chargers require an external power source that puts out +12V to +24V DC with at least 20A. The iCharger 306B likes 500W @ 24V.

The 600N is a kitten on receiver batteries.
I would not use anything bigger than a 2S 2200mAh with a 20C to 25C rating.
Assuming you still have the servos that are rated at 6v, then I would use a new Castle Creations BEC 2.0:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/castle...0154-00/p575485
I like this one a lot.
But, it does not have an on/off switch or a glow plug driver built in (like the Align 2-in-1).

But, I've had bad luck with the Align regulator / glow driver and I would not recommend them.

Also, if you are using FBL, the 2-in-1 may not have enough power to run the servos under load.
Its regulator was rated at 5A peak and was designed for the FB heli where servo loads are lower than FBL.

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11-14-2017 10:19 PM  6 months agoPost 4
Mattyg36

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Yea the 600n's really my only toy. I just figured on going to lipos after i lost my 50SE to a battery pack going bad (NiMh). Seems they just are more reliable and have better life. But I'll definitely look at the castle creations regulator. I have an align 2 in 1 that I was going to use originally but then decided to go with nimh until I had done some homework on lipos.

All my servos are digital 5945's except for a standard on the throttle and Futaba on the tail
I just don't really trust the 2000mah pack I've not now for more than a few flights and want to take the worry out of a battery failing.

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11-14-2017 10:51 PM  6 months agoPost 5
Flyin for Jesus

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There are battery meters that "try" to tell you how much is left in NiMh packs but since their voltage drops a lot less from full charge to empty, they are not so accurate.
LiPos are easy to determine if they are at 1/2 charge, 1/4 charge and so on. After leaving the NiMhs at home and replacing with LiPos, I have never looked back.
Next heli you can then get HV servos and you won't need a regulator of any kind.
You can easily buy a cheap charger like this that come in many RTF kits and will do what you need them to do. Should be able to buy one of those used for $15.
http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/D...ProdID=EFLC3010

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11-15-2017 07:21 PM  6 months agoPost 6
Mattyg36

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Probably not the brightest question by any means by why do all the regulators come with two raw ends like that for a negative and positive? Do different lipos just have different connectors?

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11-15-2017 08:41 PM  6 months agoPost 7
Flyin for Jesus

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Post a link. I can't say I'm following.
I've seen several with 2 pairs of output because a single connector cannot handle the power.
Don't know about 2 inputs for the LiPo.

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11-15-2017 09:04 PM  6 months agoPost 8
Mattyg36

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Well like in this link for the castle creations regulator the two leads for either input or output are bare wires.

https://www.amainhobbies.com/castle...0154-00/p575485

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11-15-2017 09:10 PM  6 months agoPost 9
Flyin for Jesus

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That one has one input for the LiPo ( the red and black wire with no connector ) the output is 2 leads. one 2-wire which is just power to the FBL or whatever you're hooking it to, the other lead is 3-wire, basically the same as the other but it needs the third wire to connect to the Castle Link and program it. Both with the servo connector are power output.

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11-15-2017 09:14 PM  6 months agoPost 10
Mattyg36

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Ahh I see, so youd just have to wire in your own connector to hookup your lipo?

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11-15-2017 09:37 PM  6 months agoPost 11
JuanRodriguez

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Yes..... the mfg has no idea what connectors will be used hence the bare wires....

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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11-15-2017 10:15 PM  6 months agoPost 12
ICUR1-2

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Myself I am using a 2s5000 mah 20C hard case for a rx battery and it feeds a 20 amp cc BEC and the 2in 1 for the glow plug only.

On a single charge I get 8-9 flights or about 80 minutes of use.

The large battery also helps with getting the CG right.

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11-16-2017 08:35 AM  6 months agoPost 13
datidun

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The other option is just use a Life 6.6v battery, no need for any regulators.

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12-16-2017 11:02 AM  5 months agoPost 14
wifeorheli

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Run lipo for sure! If your not HV setup I would run the castle creations bec pro. Open up the case and fill it with hot glue. Especially around the wires and you won't be sorry. Two power leads and adjustable output voltage!

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01-12-2018 06:34 PM  4 months agoPost 15
ssrobzoom

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I went from Nicad/Nimh years ago and never looked back, to a 2 cell Lipo setup. Main reason on the Nimh, when you do hard manvers this causes voltage spikes and will make your receiver/flybarless unit to reboot (which happened to me causing, you guessed it a crash).

You can do it many ways.

Using your current servos, get an regulator and step down all the voltage to meet your current servos specs. I started by using a the Duralight 6.0 voltage regulator for years with no issues at all, only because I didn't want to change servos. I think all these have been discontinued. Here's some examples:

http://www.myhelis.com/DURALITE-SYSTEMS/

Going forward on my heli I upgraded the electrical system to a 2 cell Lipo. Here's the one I run:

https://www.helidirect.com/pulse-25...po-battery.html

I get 3-4 flights per charge depending on how hard I push it.
I also charge 3 batteries per Helicopter to the field.

I then upgraded my cyclic 6.0 servos to HV servos JR8917's, but I'm still running a 4.8 volt JR 8900 tail and a micro Futaba 3155 micro servo,

Now I.m running a "Perfect Regulator", regulator. which steps down all the 2 cell lipo to the throttle servo using a separate voltage regulator for the tail servo. The Perfect Regulator also provides a fail safe switch on the unit or remotely if desired.

http://www.perfectregulators.com/Safe-Switch-2-Plus

http://www.perfectregulators.com/ma...itch_2_plus.pdf

I prefer to run the micro throttle servo for weight reduction and have been running it for about 12 years, only having to replace it once due to failure:

https://www.futabarc.com/servos/spe...s-futm0655.html

I have tried both the step down diode, but there are many of them out there, or you can make your own and the tail voltage regulator.
here's an example of the stepdown:

https://www.amainhobbies.com/align-...fBoCL9UQAvD_BwE

Here's an example to the voltage regulator I run: (https://www.futabarc.com/accessories/futm0960.html)

I personally prefer the tail regulator which is a true voltage regulator and not just a couple of diodes. I get very little hum and or noise from the tail servo when running a true regulator.

When the present low voltage servos (tail and throttle) goes away, I might replace then with HV servos which will allow everything on straight 2 cell, but as of now I don't see the need. My heli flies great and the more HV hardware your running, the less flight time between charges.

I hope this helps!! What a great Hobby we have!

Let's make Nitro great again!!!

**** Beware *****
What ever you do, when upgrading to a Lipo, Get you a new charge or use the correct setting which can charge Lipos, Never using a charger which is not designed for Lipo to charge with.

Very Dangerous and can cause a FIRE!!!

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01-12-2018 08:13 PM  4 months agoPost 16
wifeorheli

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I'm straight 2s 2550mah pulse y ed into beastx. Last weekend I landed and sat was blinking. So you can still brown out straight 2s. I get 4 .flights tops

Novarossi Motors U.S.A
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01-12-2018 08:17 PM  4 months agoPost 17
datidun

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Curious why run a 2s lipo with a regulator when one can use a Life 6.6v pack which has the punch and is safe to use?, a step down for the tail if low rated.

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01-12-2018 08:24 PM  4 months agoPost 18
ssrobzoom

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I don't like LiFe only use lipos, Life pack have a sudden drop off in voltage.

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01-12-2018 10:38 PM  4 months agoPost 19
ICUR1-2

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ssrobzoom pid=6691607 I don't like LiFe only use lipos, Life pack have a sudden drop off in voltage.

Same reason here

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