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11-17-2017 03:57 AM  6 months agoPost 141
PaulBowen

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Victoria, Australia.

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I’ll begrudgingly ad the Vario Skyfox and Xtreme to the cool helicopter list although I have some serious reservations about certain aspects of that brand.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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11-17-2017 10:52 AM  6 months agoPost 142
Richardmid1

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Synergy N9! N5 wasn't bad but went a bit Aligny after that!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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11-17-2017 08:08 PM  6 months agoPost 143
PaulBowen

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Synergy N9, going back to the good old days of Cyberheli!

What ever happened to Jason Krauss?

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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11-17-2017 09:48 PM  6 months agoPost 144
870heli

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I don't know now.
I was at the heli meet in CT. when Jason flew the first Synergy in front of anyone. He and Alan Szabo were there and it was quite a show. I talked with Jason for a wile on the design of the Synergy. He was a nice guy to talk with. Shortly after that he was working for Align and getting them to build great heli's. He may still be there.

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11-17-2017 11:11 PM  6 months agoPost 145
ICUR1-2

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I am also under the impression that Jason still works for Align but not as a pilot.

spending time, paying attention

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11-17-2017 11:56 PM  6 months agoPost 146
870heli

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I think he works as a designer and has been involved in most models in the last ten years. Maybe longer.
Someone may know for sure.

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11-21-2017 09:44 PM  6 months agoPost 147
eyeflyhelis

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i was just wondering the same thing today, im guilty of taking a few years off myself and not following anything or keeping up with the forums. i looked through all my friends list and only 1 posted in the last 3 months others are 3- years. i guess i was gone for about 6 years too.

only you have the power to make no difference!

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11-22-2017 12:05 AM  6 months agoPost 148
maxell44

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InvertedDude
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Flybar are simple machines....I absolutely love them
I'm with you there. I like flybar heli's too. Their not rocket science. Easy to set up. Gives you some mechanical prowess. I prefer the older machines and don't like all this FBL stuff. I don't like anything electronic between me and the servos. Just a gyro for the tail and that's it. You fly the heli...You have more feel with a FB heli.

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11-22-2017 12:16 AM  6 months agoPost 149
MattJen

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maxell44
I'm with you there. I like flybar heli's too. Their not rocket science. Easy to set up. Gives you some mechanical prowess. I prefer the older machines and don't like all this FBL stuff. I don't like anything electronic between me and the servos. Just a gyro for the tail and that's it. You fly the heli...You have more feel with a FB heli.
Yep totally agree, I flew FBL and just did not feel the connection I had with a FB machine,

All The Best

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11-22-2017 12:21 AM  6 months agoPost 150
ICUR1-2

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maxell44
I'm with you there. I like flybar heli's too. Their not rocket science. Easy to set up. Gives you some mechanical prowess. I prefer the older machines and don't like all this FBL stuff. I don't like anything electronic between me and the servos. Just a gyro for the tail and that's it. You fly the heli...You have more feel with a FB heli.
Yep totally agree, I flew FBL and just did not feel the connection I had with a FB machine,
And when you set-up and fly a FBL unit you end up chasing that feeling

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11-22-2017 12:43 AM  6 months agoPost 151
maxell44

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I never flew a FBL Heli yet so I don't have a common frame of reference to go by but, I agree with your statement. On that note I am in the process of converting a Raptor 50 "FB" to electric. Just have to get some 6s battery's and start the install process and fly.

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/sho...-50-to-Electric

The reason I wanted to do this project was because of reading the "Conversions" thread, (every page to the end), here at Runryder.

https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/f92p1/

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11-22-2017 12:56 AM  6 months agoPost 152
870heli

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RR is a good place to go for knowledge, help, and advice. There are always things that people will come up with that will help or get you steered in the right direction.
Evan flybars. LOL

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11-22-2017 01:41 AM  6 months agoPost 153
EEngineer

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TX

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You fly the heli
You don't fly the heli with using FBL???????

Have to very much disagree with you there.....

I hated the linkage slop with FBs thru the flybar to the main rotor.

You still have to be meticulous with the setup on a FBL machine....it's just that most people aren't....

They assume the FBL will take care of their sloppy setup practices....which an FBL controller can't. How can an FBL controller tell if your blades pitch is fubar between blades.

Of course, youze guyz aren't like that...it's the others....

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11-22-2017 02:02 AM  6 months agoPost 154
Steve_JR

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A couple of months ago I was approached by a RR member offering me his Kyosho Caliber 60 for sale NIB!! Turns out my offer was not high enough and someone else snagged it. I had been waiting since I got into this hobby in ‘99 to get one and missed it. The excitement of almost having one was sure fun though.

In fact, when I think back on what has brought me the most joy out of this hobby, it was the time spent flying my small nitro helis of yesteryear that does it. One of these days I’ll pick one up again for the fun of it all.

On that note. It’s hard to convince myself to buy new old nitro helis because you can find them used for pennies on the dollar. There is no getting your money back in the classifieds for nostalgia - that’s for sure.

Steve - Mount Joy RC Club

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11-22-2017 04:03 AM  6 months agoPost 155
eyeflyhelis

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this was thread jacked, i tried to bring it back- oh well.

IMO id rather set up a FB heli than FBL. I always know whats going to happen when i lift off!!!

only you have the power to make no difference!

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11-22-2017 04:43 AM  6 months agoPost 156
EEngineer

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I always know whats going to happen when i lift off!!!
You crash moments after....

j/k

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11-22-2017 08:39 AM  6 months agoPost 157
Richardmid1

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.They assume the FBL will take care of their sloppy setup practices....which an FBL controller can't. How can an FBL controller tell if your blades pitch is fubar between blades.
You level the swash with servos at 90 and 0 pitch then you fly and fine tune the blade tracking if needed and that's it! Even if your servos aren't all exactly 90 or if you used different length servo arms the FBL system will compensate!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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11-22-2017 12:59 PM  6 months agoPost 158
banshee rider

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Richardmid1

You level the swash with servos at 90 and 0 pitch then you fly and fine tune the blade tracking if needed and that's it! Even if your servos aren't all exactly 90 or if you used different length servo arms the FBL system will compensate!
The two different brands of FBL systems I use dont compensate in this manner !

What brand are you referring to

I want to see this

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11-22-2017 02:30 PM  6 months agoPost 159
maxell44

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You still have to be meticulous with the setup on a FBL machine....it's just that most people aren't....
Meh, I just can't see the point of putting a computer controlled propeller on top of my Heli.

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11-22-2017 03:31 PM  6 months agoPost 160
Eury

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A big reason the hobby is shrinking is the old hands angrily shaking their fists at the sky due to new developments.

Think that a FBL heli doesn’t require careful setup? You are wrong. It is different than flybar setup, but it requires the same setup skills, it just eliminates the setting of 2 more links, and making sure the flybar and paddles are even.

Computer controlled propeller on top of your heli? I suppose you’ve been flying an old Futaba Gold Box or something then. Helis have been computer controlled for decades, FBL doesn’t take away any of the skill in flying, it still goes where you tell it to go, and doesn’t fly itself. It just takes out the control interactions that we had to mix out manually back in the dark ages. Yes, there are FBL units that have self level, but people don’t fly around in that, no one is spooling up a heli and watching it fly a preprogrammed routine.

If I were new in the hobby and went out and encountered the flybars only mentality displayed here, I’d be flying multirotors after one conversation with some of you guys. First off, dislike new tech all you want, fact remains that there are so few flybar helis even available anymore that they are practically nonexistent. The old stuff is/has died off because the new stuff works so much better. New tech is cool and fun. When some new guy shows up and wants to talk helis, i put them on the buddy box. EVERY one of them refuses at first, then I show them that I can hit rescue and the heli repels itself from the ground and the intimidation of crashing my machine goes away. After they see that it’s now a 0 stress fun experience, and I can show them how things work on a modern heli and get them interested.

Compare that to the new guy walking away and unable to buy anything that the ancients worship, and being welcomed instead by the multirotor crowd who have an “all are welcome come see this cool new tech” attitude. Which crowd would you rather spend time with?

Nick Crego

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