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11-06-2017 12:39 PM  39 days agoPost 21
Dan Minick

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You guys say all the improvements are aimed at 3d, what other changes would you like to see made? What could a manufacturer start catering too? Genuine question, not trying to be a smart ass.

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11-06-2017 01:07 PM  39 days agoPost 22
870heli

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I think that the FBL did kind of kill a little of why people got involved in heli's. I remember when they were just coming out the guys at the LHS were saying it's over for your flybared heli's. 3D was the only thing that mattered anymore. It was a turnoff to a lot of people that wanted to try out heli's. I started when if you could fly a circuit you were a hero.
Look at the classified and see, if it's got a flybar it's junk. I remember flying with no gyro. I know it was not like 3D but it took real control.
Times change new things come and go but there has to be a reason for someone to get into helicopters. 3D and combo kits for $1000+ are not the answer. There were a lot of good heli's in the past. Not everything needs to be made of carbon and plastic worked just fine in a lot of places.
Price would bring a lot of people back in and good flying heli's that you can use your servos (not a combo) would help.

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11-06-2017 01:19 PM  39 days agoPost 23
InvertedDude

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Bringing back

30 heli nitros would be nice with an electric conversion package.

Some people just like to fly small nitros that sip on fuel. I am one of them!

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11-06-2017 03:14 PM  39 days agoPost 24
EEngineer

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I like the advance of the technology.....

And FBL controllers, too.

The technology didn't "kill" people's desire to get into helis.....it's the people themselves.

If people don't want to get into helis because of FBL technology....they sure as hell wouldn't get into helis with flybars.....because of the added complexity of the build and setup.

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11-06-2017 03:25 PM  39 days agoPost 25
InvertedDude

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EEngineer

Flybar are simple machines....I absolutely love them. Sitting in front of a laptop is not my idea of a hobby. IMHO

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11-06-2017 03:27 PM  39 days agoPost 26
RM3

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where is everyone?... um, they've moved on. The explosion of RC heli brought alot of newbs (I was one of them)... and those newbs have now gone... few remain, some transitioned to drones... its simply gone back to the pre FBL levels... back to when we only had one magazine and back to when you had maybe one or two heli pilots at the field...

look at the RC boat and RC car guys... never really saw a meteoric rise like helis did, but they are still with us and have been for a very long time... Drones are the new kids on the block and they too will soon fade to "normal" levels.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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11-06-2017 03:37 PM  39 days agoPost 27
CostaRicaHeli

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It's got nothing to do with flybars!

Drones are just superior to the not mechanically inclined and poor piloting hobbyist:

1. No setup needed. Flies perfect out of the box;
2. Automatic stabilization so that crashes are less prevalent and is way easier to fly;
3. If you crash, odds are nothing will happen to it and you can just fly it again;
4. If something does break, its cheap and easy to repair when compared to a heli;
5. Less dangerous than a heli. It's just way safer;
6. Entry point dollars needed are waayyyyy less....

I prefer helis and their complexity, but those of us who do not value points 1-6 (and enjoy the challenge), are few and far between.

IMO the advancement of technology (FBL), has made them easier to fly so more people can fly them, not the other way around. Thanks to drones BTW.

Franz

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11-06-2017 05:22 PM  39 days agoPost 28
Richardmid1

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.I have almost no interest in new models or brands. I have a really strong interest in existing and particularly older designs, not really old more 2000-2010, the most exiting era for me.
This is so me right now! I've just bought an MA xcell fury extreme 90 and I'm falling in love with the flybar again! (Eengineer will be shocked! ).

FOR ME (Mengineer ) and I'm sure many others, half if not more of the attraction with helicopters is the mechanical engineering involved (flybar and nitro). A lot of that is lost with modern FBL helis (pretty much no more nitros either).

I used to fly helis a hell of a lot more simply just testing different blades, paddles, flybar lengths, head dampening, tuning engines, trying different fuels, pipes etc. etc.!

Now you just plug a battery in, press buttons or click a mouse and the heli flys perfectly with no skill needed to get it there! It's boring! Very little sense of achievement either! I look at new models but then I think, well I'll have it setup perfectly in 5 minutes and it'll fly just like my other FBL helis so what's the point!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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11-06-2017 07:43 PM  38 days agoPost 29
EEngineer

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Eengineer will be shocked!
I'm totally shocked, I tell ya!......

Speechless....lol

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11-06-2017 08:35 PM  38 days agoPost 30
ICUR1-2

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Maybe we start up topics on where to find nitro and flybars.
I would like a fly barred 30 size nitro that is able to take a .50 .
I had a Hawk pro with a 50 hyper in it and ran 570's
That heli sipped fuel and had 15 Minute flights.

Ps.. the nx4 stretched is not an answer

spending time, paying attention

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11-06-2017 09:14 PM  38 days agoPost 31
RM3

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Maybe we start up topics on where to find nitro and flybars
thats easy, Mark already did... the classifieds.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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11-06-2017 09:25 PM  38 days agoPost 32
ICUR1-2

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Lol besides the classifieds

spending time, paying attention

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11-06-2017 10:00 PM  38 days agoPost 33
EEngineer

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The antique section?.....

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11-06-2017 10:06 PM  38 days agoPost 34
gmcullan

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Southbridge, MA

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One word. Drones.

The LHS where I work used to sell 10 helis for every drone. Now we sell 10 drones for every heli.

And thanks to the internet, the customer doesn't want it cheap, they want it CHEAP!

Oh ya, I forgot, they also want it to require no skills or knowledge to perform at a world class level.

Drones. Rhymes with groans.

Gerry Cullan,
Gaui 200, 255; T-Rex 250, 450 SE & SA, Mini-Titan, Blade 450

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11-06-2017 10:13 PM  38 days agoPost 35
dgoss999

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Oh ya, I forgot, they also want it to require no skills or knowledge to perform at a world class level.
World class level at what?? Zero challenge!

Try snail racing!!!

"Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see." • Benjamin Franklin

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11-06-2017 10:14 PM  38 days agoPost 36
PaulBowen

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I’m sitting at home drinking coffee with my Ergo 30 (it drinks heli fuel). I didn’t realise when I first bought one in 1997 how much fun I could have with it 20 years later. I’m pretty excited this morning with the realisation that we can still buy brand new a Kavan Bell 206 and Lockheed 286.

I’d love to see a resurgence of the classics.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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11-06-2017 10:18 PM  38 days agoPost 37
RM3

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I’d love to see a resurgence of the classics
...and I'd love to see my hair grow back...

aint gonna happen.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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11-06-2017 10:19 PM  38 days agoPost 38
RM3

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...EVER

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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11-06-2017 10:21 PM  38 days agoPost 39
870heli

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They have places you can go for that !!!!

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11-06-2017 10:29 PM  38 days agoPost 40
EEngineer

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Yeah, but the side effects are worse....lol

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