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11-23-2017 12:18 AM  18 days agoPost 181
EEngineer

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My apologies for morphing the thread.
It morphed long before you made a post....

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11-23-2017 02:05 AM  17 days agoPost 182
gologo

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since when did this turn into ANOTHER FBL v FB thread.
Kind of what I was thinking
RC aircraft are fun. Helicopters are the most fun.
Now I am going to get it
Actually I think you DID get it! Model 'AVIATION' is fun, and this thread
has been all over the place, subject wise, just like model aviation is...still a great thread

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11-23-2017 02:09 AM  17 days agoPost 183
PaulBowen

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Great to see we’re all here!

I’m more than happy to continue sharing my opinion of the state of the hobby although this probably wasn’t the intended place for it, but

I am fed up with our more conventional designs being discontinued to feed the technology and image obsessed 3d crowd. I’d be surprised if most people could extract more than 60% of the true potential of the average 10 year old 3d helicopter. I feel less engaged in the hobby since it turned into a big marketing monster, but I guess thats capitalist democracy at work. No Goblins for me!

I may sound negative but I know I’m not alone.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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11-23-2017 02:30 AM  17 days agoPost 184
jbjones

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PaulBowen
I am fed up with our more conventional designs being discontinued to feed the technology and image obsessed 3d crowd.
No worries there, mate. As you already know, Hirobo, Quest/Kyosho and MinAir are still going. I just ordered a Caliber 5 canopy from Kyosho USA. By the way, there is a major fire-sale going on there! If you need a part go search for it.

You can easily get Quest(Kyosho) kits from rcjapan and bad-assed upgraded Quest contest machines from Germany (Flybarred..2 blade, 3 blade)

I don't think the conventional designs are gone. They're just not advertised!

Cheers Paul,
-JB

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11-23-2017 03:27 AM  17 days agoPost 185
PaulBowen

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Yeah you’re right jbjones.

I tried to buy a Caliber 30FT canopy from Kyosho USA but unfortunately they won’t sell to anyone outside of the US.

The Calibers are all nice fun helicopters. The 5 was a pretty popular machine for a while, the 6 would be even better.

I think an important note about RR is the fact that online forums actually allow us to feel part of a fraternity that is these days a bit thinner on the ground. I don’t really have the opportunity to fly with other RC helicopter comrades but I can always chat on line with them (or argue!). For this we are very lucky.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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11-23-2017 03:45 AM  17 days agoPost 186
jimm

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To bad Quest did not have a dealer here in the US.

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11-23-2017 03:47 AM  17 days agoPost 187
BeltFedBrowning

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I have been buying all of my dream helicopters from back in the day. They can be had for pennies on the dollar, and they still fly great. Some of them have been torque tube drive tails. The gears are no longer available, so I have been converting them to belt drive tails. Lathe work, silicone molds and casting plastics, sand molds for cast aluminum parts. I have been having a great time, that is what a hobby is to me.

Opening a tail box so a belt can pass

Silicone mold for a plastic boom mount

Silicone mold for a front belt pulley

Making a tail pulley

Sand casting an aluminum boom mount

perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim

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11-23-2017 04:06 AM  17 days agoPost 188
jbjones

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PaulBowen
I tried to buy a Caliber 30FT canopy from Kyosho USA but unfortunately they won’t sell to anyone outside of the US.
Oh, wow. Ok, if there's anything that I can do to help PM me.
PaulBowen
The Calibers are all nice fun helicopters. The 5 was a pretty popular machine for a while, the 6 would be even better.
Never had one, so one day I was wanting a "plastic fantastic" and came across the Quest site. Honestly,I would have done better with finding the Hirobo USA site first, but that's just how it works.
PaulBowen
I think an important note about RR is the fact that online forums actually allow us to feel part of a fraternity that is these days a bit thinner on the ground. I don’t really have the opportunity to fly with other RC helicopter comrades but I can always chat on line with them (or argue!). For this we are very lucky.
100% right my friend. Glad you got this thread going, and glad that you have got so much positive feedback in it.

Cheers again!

-JB

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11-23-2017 05:22 AM  17 days agoPost 189
InvertedDude

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BeltFedBrowning

Bad ass work you are doing!!! Any chance you live close by me?

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11-23-2017 10:52 AM  17 days agoPost 190
joeskeeter

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Nice parts. I didn't know it was possible to make the black plastic parts, like the pulley.

Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face - Mike Tyson

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11-23-2017 01:15 PM  17 days agoPost 191
Pistol Pete

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Hats off to BeltFedBrowning

Ive never seen you share this before. Great stuff.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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11-23-2017 03:06 PM  17 days agoPost 192
BeltFedBrowning

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Kansas City

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The hardest part of making the plastic parts is making the prototype part to make the mold with.

Cutting the original boom mount and moving the boom down inline with the tail drive gear by gluing it back together.

Lots of body filler, sanding, and primer to make it look like the new part. It is very fragile at this point.

Make a mold out of silicone using the prototype part.

Cast a new part. I use a 2-part polyester casting resin that is very hard and very strong.

All the hard work is done, so if I crash I can make a new part using the mold.

perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim

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11-23-2017 03:18 PM  17 days agoPost 193
Chuck Bole

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Nice work BeltFedBrowning.. Some craftsmanship there for sure.

chuck

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11-23-2017 03:24 PM  17 days agoPost 194
CostaRicaHeli

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Costa Rica, Central America

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I love my Goblins!

I started out with a Nexus 30 back in 99'. Joined RR in 2003. Moved to X-Cells and loved them. However, now the quality is way better, the parts count much lower and the performance (for whatever you want to do) much higher and dependable.

My advise (take it or not) is to fly what you want, without necessarily putting down what others fly. As a corollary to this, I would also advise to keep up with technology. It's far from a fad.

Happy flying!

Franz

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11-23-2017 03:39 PM  17 days agoPost 195
BeltFedBrowning

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I wonder if "keeping up with technology" is the hobby for some, while flying a helicopter is the hobby for others?
I am not here to try to impress anyone with what I can buy.

perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim

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11-23-2017 03:47 PM  17 days agoPost 196
Jim-bob

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Awesome work BeltFedBrowning.

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11-23-2017 03:51 PM  17 days agoPost 197
BeltFedBrowning

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Thanks guys! I forgot to mention, the piece of aluminum that I am melting in my home made furnace is an aluminum thermostat housing. I think I used part of a water pump as well.

perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim

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11-23-2017 04:22 PM  17 days agoPost 198
CostaRicaHeli

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BeltFedBrowning
I am not here to try to impress anyone with what I can buy.
Niether am I. I am just not bashing anyone for advancing with the technology afforded to us. BTW, I think I fly pretty well.

Franz

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11-23-2017 04:24 PM  17 days agoPost 199
Richardmid1

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A big reason the hobby is shrinking is the old hands angrily shaking their fists at the sky due to new developments.
Hey I fly both, I just prefer the flight feel and satisfaction of tuning a machanical flybarred head. The hobby is shrinking because those two things have gone!

No body is buying upgrades or buying new helis because they all flew differently when flybarred, now they all fly perfect and the same with the same FBL unit so there is no point trying different helis!

I have recently gone back to a flybarred heli and have spent more money in model shops than I have in the last 2 years because I was so uninterested in flying or buying FBL helis! So think again as to why this hobby is shrinking!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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11-23-2017 04:33 PM  17 days agoPost 200
Richardmid1

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The two different brands of FBL systems I use dont compensate in this manner !
What brand are you referring to
I want to see this
Yes they will. Providing your swash is level at mid stick the FBL won't care if your servos aren't exactly at 90 or are different lengths. It's just like your tail doesn't care what pitch is set at neutral, as long as the gyro is in HH it will simply adjust the servo to where it holds the heli still. You do a climb out on a FBL with wonky cyclic servos it will simply correct for any unwanted axis rotation.

I'm not saying it would be optimal but the heli would still fly better than a well setup flybarred heli.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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