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10-26-2017 09:49 AM  23 days agoPost 1
MattJen

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Hi All
I was looking through some old Model Helicopter World magazines from back in 2004 and was chuckling at the training tools on offer along with looking at models that were sold as beginner models which were supposed to be easy to setup and fly out of the box..

It made me laugh as some took loads of upgrades to get working, like the piccolo or Protec Zoom, but what I did remember was the vast range of training undercarriage, some of which were just plane dangerous,
the one pictured below I had the pleasure of having a go on, it basically was a trolley that had the helicopter chained to it, it would move around with the cyclic inputs, just wondered if anyone else had seen this or had another pointless part/tool..

Matt

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10-26-2017 12:01 PM  23 days agoPost 2
870heli

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Yes there were a lot of crazy tools. I remember the run up stand that you had to build. Made of steel around four feet high that you mounted your helicopter on then started it up. You ran your heli full bore so you could adjust your carburetor from underneath. Not a good idea. LOL

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10-26-2017 12:42 PM  23 days agoPost 3
Dan Minick

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When I first started I tried mounting my blade 450 to a sheet of plywood mounted to a "lazy susan" bearing screwed to my table. I thought it would be nice to get used to the control inputs, especially the tail. First spool up the thing vibrated so bad I thought it was going to blow up right then and there. I immediately cut the throttle. Turns out hard mounting a heli isn't a good idea, especially something as sloppy as a blade heli.

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10-26-2017 12:47 PM  23 days agoPost 4
KJH

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The infamous Whiteman stand:

I never had one, but from what I heard, it wasn't worth the investment.

For my American RC Mantis back in 1984, I strapped a hula hoop to the skids. Did save a few tip overs.

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10-26-2017 03:12 PM  23 days agoPost 5
EEngineer

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I wonder what Ron Popeil would have come up with?....

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10-26-2017 04:10 PM  23 days agoPost 6
Vance

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10-26-2017 05:03 PM  23 days agoPost 7
MattJen

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HA HA the infamous Foo, reading his comments was funny late in the evening after a depressive day at work.. his comments did make a lot laugh, especially after him drinking the hooch and smoking pot..

keep them all coming folks, has been fun reading some of them...

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10-26-2017 05:59 PM  23 days agoPost 8
wjvail

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I always find it tricky looking back in time and passing judgment.

I've been flying helicopters sense before there were internet forums and computer simulators. Some of the devices noted in previous posts, back in the day, seemed to be a good idea. When I built my first helicopter, an X-Cell .60, there were few people to ask questions and the only other people flying models were nearly as clueless as myself. Buddy boxes existed but who was going to hold the instructor box?

There are two separate challenges to model helicopter. Flying them is one. Building them is another. When I began I didn't know how to do either -and there was really no one to ask. A device that held onto your model while you spooled it up seemed to be worthwhile. I didn't know how to fly one and I was pretty sure something was about to fall off or break. A stand of some sort seemed to be on the right track.

With the above said, I never bought any of the devices noted above. Dowels and whiffle balls did it for me. It's all I could afford.

Question - How would you adjust blade tracking, engine tune and tail rotor when you can't hover?

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10-26-2017 07:24 PM  23 days agoPost 9
HilliHeli

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^^^^^ This one reminds me of the slogan (sign) that was above the equipment room of the small college in the town where I was born and raised ;
" We furnish everything but ... GUTS !! "

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10-27-2017 12:45 AM  23 days agoPost 10
MattJen

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Yeah agree back then helicopters were a piece of engineering. I remember seeing people spend days and weeks getting their clutches and engines dialled in on their xcells.. I still fly my tempest.

One tool was the metal pen to lock the piston i wondered how many people out holes in their pistols using it.. this was prior to the delrun lock that fitted once you took the backplate off.

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10-27-2017 02:57 AM  23 days agoPost 11
dkshema

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Blade tracking...grab the end of the tail boom of the heli (heli downwind) and hold it firmly while controlling throttle/pitch with the other hand. Lift off, check tracking. Land, make adjustments, repeat as needed.

It wasn't unthinkable for you and your buddy to lie on your stomach and tweak needle valves. Friend holds skids on one side down while you do same and adjust the needles.

Maybe not smart or safe, but those of us who did it still have all our fingers and toes, most still have hair (albeit gray).

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10-27-2017 03:05 AM  23 days agoPost 12
EEngineer

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No wonder youze guys hate planks.....LOL

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10-27-2017 04:39 AM  23 days agoPost 13
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I learned on the Dave Brown DOS sim, I had a MA 30 and I bought the sim at the same time, but I had a chance to buy my boss's 85MPH race boat with a Chevy 396 in it so I soled the heli, well I flew the sim for like 4 or 5 years and wrote the time down in a little notebook, by the time I bought my next heli I had over 200 hours on the sim,, looped on my 2nd gallon, the guys were behind me hooting "loop loop loop loop" boy was I shaking going into that first loop LOL

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10-27-2017 09:36 AM  22 days agoPost 14
dgoss999

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Morley string method!

Tie a short length of string to the end of your tail boom and put your foot on the other end for a perfect training aid to control tail yaw in the hover..... Job Done!

"Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see." • Benjamin Franklin

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10-27-2017 11:38 AM  22 days agoPost 15
KJH

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Blade tracking...grab the end of the tail boom of the heli (heli downwind) and hold it firmly while controlling throttle/pitch with the other hand. Lift off, check tracking. Land, make adjustments, repeat as needed.
Dave, like this?

This photo is in Dieter Schluter's book, "Radio Controlled Helicopter Manual"

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10-27-2017 06:10 PM  22 days agoPost 16
reddragon

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I was asked to build and set up the Whiteman helicopter stand many years ago by my friend's Hobby Shop in Ridgewood, Queens. That thing made me laugh, it was sheer comedy. I gave it back to my friend and told him that it would not sell well.

Thanks for sharing the pics KJH. They brought back memories. For the other devices I am still chuckling.

Wayne - Fly it like you stole it! You're in good hands with Runryder!

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10-27-2017 07:25 PM  22 days agoPost 17
dkshema

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Yes...did that many a time with my Schuler and Revolution helis.

Also had no qualms about holding the heli above my head to tune the needle valves. Just remembered to be VERRRRRRRRRRY careful.

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10-27-2017 08:20 PM  22 days agoPost 18
JuanRodriguez

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Inverted Training Stand

My buddy Al wanted to learn how to fly inverted so he designed and built this "inverted training stand"......Since I already knew how, I was commissioned to "test fly" the device...... The idea was to take off from the inverted position and go from there.....

I guarantee that you've not seen anything like this ever and never will !!

Although it worked as advertised, Al was never successful in his quest...... If my memory serves me right, he crashed it on first attempt

Watch at YouTube

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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10-27-2017 08:54 PM  22 days agoPost 19
Doublah

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Lol, that is nuts. Worked as designed, though. Flying helis is tough..practice, practice, crash, fix and more practice.

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10-27-2017 09:15 PM  22 days agoPost 20
reddragon

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Juan,
Wow. It actually worked. Stunning.

Wayne - Fly it like you stole it! You're in good hands with Runryder!

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