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11-22-2017 07:33 PM  24 days agoPost 141
dilberteinsteinrrNovice - texas - USA - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

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Strangely the ones whom take most offense to the kneeling don't have to worry about being shot dead because of a misunderstanding or simple bigotry

https://www.statista.com/statistics...police-by-race/

The raw numbers show whites are the race being killed mostly by police.

When you look at murders in Chicago, 75% of the murders are against blacks while 71% of those doing the murders are black.

http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...erers-are-black

As far as black deaths go, police are far below abortion and murder by other blacks.

90% of life is "showing up"

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11-22-2017 07:59 PM  24 days agoPost 142
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Not sure why i thought of that now.
..meds wearing off maybe?
I could have sworn we have an address system here. I guess the guy who has one unverified example is right.

Well, off to the pub to apologize. Thanks RM3, I would not want to go around thinking pretty much everyone here has an address. embarrassing.

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11-23-2017 02:00 AM  24 days agoPost 143
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well well well, wrong again

Ummm no, he was NOT famous. He may be infamous but he is no celebrity. He is a cold-blooded killer and he deserved to die in obscurity
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He should have been executed decades ago.
so you feel people with a SICK mind should be executed, wow, I'm surprised you feel that way !!, I guess some here will say that's the democrat in you,

please go to YouTube and see Manson's interviews, see what he was truly like, the man did NOT live in reality !! and YOU and I have NO rights of judgment to blame a Sick mind for being born !!,, he had a SICK mind and that is why his life was spared,

you stand against racism, yet you judge a sick mind and call for it's execution, so now, who is better ??

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11-23-2017 02:05 AM  24 days agoPost 144
Gearhead

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I think they should stop patrolling in those areas altogether... let the locals figure it out on their own. Maybe they can get some of these multi-millionaire ball throwing brainiacs to throw money at the situation in hopes of solving the problems.
I was waiting for some one to reply and say "give them more guns, that will help fix the problem"

Jim
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11-23-2017 02:45 AM  24 days agoPost 145
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so you feel people with a SICK mind should be executed, wow, I'm surprised you feel that way !!, I guess some here will say that's the Liberal in you,
I thought "a SICK mind should be executed" was the sign of a conservative It's the liberals that want to be generous to everybody.

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11-23-2017 03:36 AM  24 days agoPost 146
EEngineer

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I thought Manson was spared because Kalifornia had outlawed the death penalty at the time....

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11-23-2017 03:37 AM  24 days agoPost 147
EEngineer

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liberals that want to be generous to everybody.
Wrong....they want to be generous....not with their money....but with other people's money.

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11-23-2017 03:49 AM  24 days agoPost 148
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I thought "a SICK mind should be executed" was the sign of a conservative It's the liberals that want to be generous to everybody.
oops, I got that wrong, I will go back and edit it, have a look

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11-23-2017 03:54 AM  24 days agoPost 149
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I thought Manson was spared because Kalifornia had outlawed the death penalty at the time
LOL that too

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11-23-2017 05:55 AM  24 days agoPost 150
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Dil, Those are fake statistics. Those white guys that were killed by the police were true "thugs" so that doesn't count. The black guys were innocent victims.

Most if not all of the law enforcement accused of such brutality are charged and sent to trial. Am I wrong? If found innocent then its a conspiracy? Is that the point?

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11-23-2017 02:35 PM  23 days agoPost 151
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Taking a knee doesn't help anyone or any problem, it just a way to insult the American Flag and national anthem.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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11-23-2017 05:46 PM  23 days agoPost 152
EEngineer

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I wonder if they will "take a knee" during the games on Thanksgiving Day?

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11-23-2017 06:02 PM  23 days agoPost 153
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Dil, Those are fake statistics. Those white guys that were killed by the police were true "thugs" so that doesn't count. The black guys were innocent victims.
How silly of me...I gotta get with the program.

90% of life is "showing up"

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11-23-2017 06:10 PM  23 days agoPost 154
dilberteinstein

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Taking a knee doesn't help anyone or any problem, it just a way to insult the American Flag and national anthem.
When a person steps in a fresh cow patty, he has the option of pulling the offended foot and wiping it off with leaves and whatever...or he can insert the other foot and do a little stomp dance.

Continuing to kneel is the act of doing the stomp dance.

They have offended many and caused resentment while saying NOTHING about the group that are actually killing blacks...blacks themselves.

90% of life is "showing up"

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11-30-2017 05:35 PM  16 days agoPost 155
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Ladymagic
You do realize regardless of whether or not you agree, they are not just taking a knee to take piss you off...there is a real issue with policing in this country and I think you know that.

Making jokes and trivializing the reality of being the minority in the US is just bypassing the core issue which, plain and simple, is a dangerously biased enforcement of the law. Hundreds of minorities have died at the hands of bad police officers without accountability....it's not a joke.

Strangely the ones whom take most offense to the kneeling don't have to worry about being shot dead because of a misunderstanding or simple bigotry. By focusing on being offended you are simply attempting deflect and detract form the real problem.

And don't say they were all "thugs" because in the past month...we all know it hasn't been those "thugs" who have been shooting up churches and schools, and killing women and even children.

Be offended by those men. And why is it that Charles Manson's death is announced as though he was some famous celebrity. News stations are doing reflection stories on his life as though innocent people did not gruesomely die at his hands. What's worse is he wasn't even slightly remorseful. Yet he gets to live out his life and die at the ripe old age of 83. That is bs. He deserved to die alone and be buried in an obscure, unmarked grave in the corner of the prison cemetery. Yet, people here celebrate the death every time an unarmed minority is killed by a cop. Society is all backwards.

Do you not see the hypocrisy? Or does it just not matter because you are on the beneficial side of the double standard?
We do have an issue with police in this country most of it is simply due to people not complying to lawful commands such as Stop, Put your hands up, Do not resist, Keep your hands where I can see them ect ect. You are entitled to your opinion however you are not entitled to your own facts. A brief look at the FBI crime stats will discredit your opinion quickly.
I understand that you are liberal and because of that you have difficulty seeing outside of your own narrow views. I think the picture is quite an accurate depiction of these despicable people. I would go into detail on why I personally find them despicable but I do not have the time nor inclination.
I do see the hypocrisy in your statement though so I have some homework for you
Question #1. What group of people by ethnicity have the highest percentage of murdering others based on the total population in the USA.
Question #2 What group of people by ethnicity have the highest percentage of violent crime perpetuated on others based on the total population in the USA.
#3 Use your answers from questions one and two to determine why your opinion from your previous statements is flawed.

I will credit you on the statement most of the people offended by the kneeling don't have to worry about being shot dead because of a misunderstanding or simple bigotry.
You forgot to mention other reasons we do not need to worry about being shot by police so I will list a few starting with my own personal experiences being as how I have traveled some overseas and in the Americas.
1 Obey orders from police officers.
2 Do not associate with criminals knowingly.
3 Do not rob or steal or involve oneself in criminal activity
4 Have common sense

I hope this helps, thanks

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11-30-2017 06:30 PM  16 days agoPost 156
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HOW dare You...

How dare you use logic and verifiable data to prove a valid point... how dare you point out the obvious...

you sir deserve to be shot.

I did some reading over the weekend about the inner city issues, about cops and the perception of injustice and here is what I have concluded.

1. Are Blacks getting shot by cops "wrongfully"? Yes. Is it the primary reason blacks are dying in the streets? Not even close. It is a very tiny percentage of blacks that have encounters with cops that end in this worst of outcome. But it is perceived as an epidemic by the media... no one listens to good news... Bad news however polarizes people.
Why? cause cops are now the product of the areas in which they serve. So therefore they are simply reacting to any tiny thing. They simply cannot trust any suspect to comply with any directive. Many, instead of putting their hands up, they nearly always run, and when caught fight back. (and cop goes into predator mode). Cop becomes so overcome with emotion and Adrenalin they make stupid mistakes. we all would.

2. Cops dont feel supported in the communities they serve... the people dont like them, dont want them there, when they ask for info most lie to them. and the threat of being shot at at any time whether you are ready or not is ever present, imagine sitting in a patrol car knowing you are outnumbered and alone in a hostile area with only a pistol to protect you and the only help you got is at best 5 - 10 minutes away, which might as well be an eternity. now imagine doing this for low pay, away from your family everyday as a job. What would be your attitude after a year?

3. Many inner city minorities dont see that it is their actions that continue to perpetuate the very issues they face everyday. Their poor attitude simply acts as a magnifying attribute that then leads to further accidents and mistreatment (when it happens). And this attitude is then supported by the community they live in thereby causing a self feeding cycle that can only be broken by the populace...

If the neighborhoods were not so bad, you think the cops would be hyper-vigilant and over-reactive... I dont think so.

If the same cop was patrolling an uptown sub, and he pulled aside a kid with a tucked in shirt with a tie, backpack on a bicycle on the way home from school in daylight, the encounter is magnitudes less stressful due to perceived threat... and therefore the cop would act accordingly

So this cycle between the cops and the citizens needs to be broken by the side that holds the power... and that is the people, not the cops.

Imagine if tomorrow all the inner cities notorious for these incidents suddenly stopped acting like thugs, stopped hanging out on street corners in wife beaters and pants down to their knees, stopped trying to steal, buy and sell drugs, stopped the rival gang shooting, went to school and tried, cooperated with the cops when something did happen, and were respectful to all other around them in both language and attitude...

the attitude of the police officers would also change...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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