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10-10-2017 05:49 PM  12 days agoPost 21
RM3

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let me guess... would you prefer I pull the records from the FBI database... they say the same thing.

Oh wait, maybe I should pull them from the BLM database...

what does it have to do with the NFL taking a knee... um skin color and racism based on false information.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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10-10-2017 05:49 PM  12 days agoPost 22
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I know if i aproached someone and said some crazy **** like " Hey you are an asshole and your great great great grandma was an asshole because she was (green, white, black) .... " I am surely not on the road to being friends. Probably never. Snowbals chance in hell. If on the other hand if i said "Hi i am Spiff i see you are a wildcats fan, did you see...." That conversation will have a completely diferent outcome.

I agree with you here. Some black people have developed an unhealthy mistrust of all white people. And that's not fair to those Spiffs that aren't all about white power and all that stuff. But you have to admit it has to go both ways right?

Even small white children understand that, yet black adults struggle with it. Why? I don't get it.

I don't agree with this statement. Many black adults do sir....they just do. It's all about the environment you were raised. You just don't see the ones that do as much because the media and the bigots only feed the stereotypes by focusing on the ones that fit their agendas.

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10-10-2017 05:50 PM  12 days agoPost 23
RM3

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I don't necessarily trust all facts
well I guess then by logic you believe in some lies...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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10-10-2017 05:54 PM  12 days agoPost 24
Ladymagic

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well I guess then by logic you believe in some lies...
No...I just take in as much information from various sources and then arrive at a conclusion...not just go to "I hate black people.com" or "all white people are racist.com" and plaster all their "statistics" as fact.

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10-10-2017 05:59 PM  12 days agoPost 25
RM3

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first you say this:
Teamwork? By Whom? I doubt all the slaves that died working for nothing, or native Americans who were essentially wiped out and their land stolen, or Chinese immigrants were treated less than human while building railroads so the white people of the time could benefit from their efforts without doing any of the labor, "teamwork."
then say this?
Not sure what that has to do with the NFL or what going on with policing today...
maybe you should answer that... you started it.

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10-10-2017 06:07 PM  12 days agoPost 26
spaceman spiff

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But you have to admit it has to go both ways right?
Of course.

I never aproached anyone and said that they are a piece if sh!t because their great great great great grandpa was a piece of sh!t. I understand that the person i am talking to is not someone who has been dead for 190 years. Nothing in the past can be fixed.

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10-10-2017 06:18 PM  12 days agoPost 27
Ladymagic

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I understand that the person i am talking to is not someone who has been dead for 190 years. Nothing in the past can be fixed.
...if only everyone had your logic sir.

At the end of the day....protest means progress if it's done responsibly. Progress means we all become stronger.

The first American settlers protested taxation without representation did they not? They tossed a whole bunch of English tea into a bay. While the tea really had nothing to do with the issue it was a symbolic gesture that got the British 'attention. I bet they are the "Kapernics" of their time. But look what they accomplished by that gesture. Nuff said.

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10-10-2017 06:44 PM  12 days agoPost 28
AirWolfRC

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The incomprehensible (to me) part is that the people, that are trying to use the past committed by people that are no longer alive, are somehow owed a debt and responsibility by the people that live today.

I don't think so. Times have changed and are still changing.

Unless you have invented some kind of time machine . . . your rhetoric is falling on deaf ears.

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10-10-2017 06:44 PM  12 days agoPost 29
RM3

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While the tea really had nothing to do with the issue it was a symbolic gesture that got the British 'attention. I bet they are the "Kapernics" of their time. But look what they accomplished by that gesture. Nuff said.
...and resulted in some 100,000+ people dying as a result 4 years later.

progress has a cost yes... but are you willing to sacrifice your life for those that dont value it?... Im not.

Nor should you sacrifice the lives of others in pursuit of self righteousness...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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10-10-2017 06:50 PM  12 days agoPost 30
spaceman spiff

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What progress will come of footballers protesting? Will i get a 50+ million dollar 4 year contract so we all can be equal?

Will Afirmative Action be applied to NFL for hiring only blacks?

I don't see how progress is going to be achived, The methods are self defeating, and so far the mesengers ( BLM and footballers ) are poor examples. Is politics going to infect everything? I am really bummed that news is nothing but viciously twisted crap, nothing like when i was a kid. i stopped watching almost 2 years ago , but now football too?

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10-10-2017 07:00 PM  12 days agoPost 31
RM3

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What NFL players SHOULD be doing...
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/29/...rson-foundation

unfortunately further research shows that ONLY 2-3 from each team on average donate time and money to anything charitable... if its a team effort most show up as per peer pressure is my guess.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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10-10-2017 07:49 PM  12 days agoPost 32
InvertedDude

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Quit watching or supporting them

Just cut it off cold turkey! I have more respect for Military and First Responders.

Not wasting any money nor time watching professional sport fools for quickly forgetting their place.

There is a saying, if you mess with pigs. The mud will fling upon you as well.

Anyone that messes with Trump seems to roll in the mud! Trump doesn't give a damn, it is best to leave the big giant pig alone! Especially if you do not want mud flung upon yourselves.

NFL may be a rich organization, but they are good at destroying themselves due to their ego. When people leave sports, it is usually permanent.

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10-11-2017 02:13 AM  12 days agoPost 33
rcmiket

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I don't see anything about "dancing on the graves of slaves".
Me either but I just consider the source of that claim and move on.

Mike

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10-11-2017 12:35 PM  11 days agoPost 34
rcmiket

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At the end of the day....protest means progress if it's done responsibly. Progress means we all become stronger.
Tell that to antifa..

Mike

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10-11-2017 12:46 PM  11 days agoPost 35
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You can't tell anything to Antifa.....

Antifa stands for Anti 1st Amendment.....not Anti Fascist as they would have you believe. In fact, Antifa is pro-fascist. A resurrected bowel movement from the 1920's and 30s.

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10-11-2017 12:58 PM  11 days agoPost 36
rcmiket

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You can't tell anything to Antifa.....
Apparently not. They are a terrorist group IMO promoting violence based on a political agenda.

Mike

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10-11-2017 02:03 PM  11 days agoPost 37
RM3

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You can't tell anything to Antifa.....
sure you can... you just gotta make sure your message is traveling at optimal muzzle velocity
No...I just take in as much information from various sources and then arrive at a conclusion...
well tell us oh mighty one, what sources do you get your information from and how are they vetted, and why do you trust it...

find and post your "facts" with source that more blacks are indeed shot by police than whites, that most that are shot by cops are NOT thugs, that most in jail are not criminals...

and lastly explain how this protest, which was started by Colin Kaepernick protesting what he claimed as hate crimes by white cops, whos parents are WHITE, whos girl friend Nessa Diab whom has significant influence over him is a Muslim will... how all of this will lead to respect and change for those that serve both in the military and police.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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10-11-2017 02:12 PM  11 days agoPost 38
rcmiket

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sure you can... you just gotta make sure your message is traveling at optimal muzzle velocity
True but than we are no better than them......................

Mike

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10-11-2017 02:35 PM  11 days agoPost 39
RM3

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True but than we are no better than them...
yeah but history is not written by the loser... violent revolutions are always caused by those that influence others to do their bidding while minimizing their self risk...

All the mega rich throughout history went out of their way to crush the opposition... This is why we have Iphones(Steve Jobs - ruthless), MicroSoft(Bill Gates - Monopoly), Disney(Child manipulation/product placement), NASA(run by Nazi scientists), McDonalds(stolen from creators)...

and this is the very reason we will never win the war against Terrorism... because we want to play by rules that favor the ruthless...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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10-11-2017 02:43 PM  11 days agoPost 40
rcmiket

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and this is the very reason we will never win the war against Terrorism... because we want to play by rules that favor the ruthless...
In the past but I think were now playing by a different set of rules under the current administration. While antifa is a issue they ain't no ISIS.

Mike

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