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09-17-2017 03:36 AM  8 days agoPost 1
dilberteinstein

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Will they attack the US?

If they don't attack the US, why should we be concerned?

I don't an upside to attacking North Korea first...only negative.

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09-17-2017 04:03 AM  8 days agoPost 2
spaceman spiff

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Hopefully it only is a minor annoyance for several decades more, and does not turn into anything. With the kind of threats being made it is quite posible that no one will take the chance on precision minimal damage warfare if it comes to that.

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09-17-2017 04:31 AM  8 days agoPost 3
RM3

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no I dont think they will... but they will threaten and eventually the US will cave and give them what they want... money. Thats all these terrorist nations ever want... money (and the resources it buys), cause they simply cant understand how to make it for themselves.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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09-17-2017 05:23 AM  8 days agoPost 4
dilberteinstein

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Here's what I'm concerned about. Presidents come and Presidents go, but we have a State Department, CIA, and DC elites and they are here to stay.

Watch the following:

Watch at YouTube

Hillary says the US will provoke someone to attack the US and that will keep us in power as long as anyone can imagine.

I don't believe Hillary thought that up out of the blue. She said in the video that there are those that are saying the best thing that could happen to us is to be attacked by somebody...those are the ones in DC.

I believe the prevailing feelings of the DC elites is war is good for the US.

The US was making regime changes before Trump came on the scene. It was Marie Jana Korbelová AKA Madeleine Albright (Secretary of State) that said: "But if we have to use force, it is because we are America; we are the indispensable nation."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright

She justified our using force merely because we are the USA.

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09-17-2017 07:11 AM  8 days agoPost 5
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my God, the way she laughed, you can easily see her unstable "love of power", it kind of made me sick for a moment, maybe the right people saw that unstable "love of power" of her's and that is another reason why she's was elected out, thank God again !!

as for a war, I totally believe there wont be a Nuke war, the technology that the USA has is much much higher than you know,,, look at that Laser that was tested just a few weeks ago, do you actually believe it took 60 years to develop it, yet that's ONLY as far as they have come in 60 years, I think not. now I'm not saying that a Laser will save us !, I'm only saying that the Government has to keep things looking conventional in the eyes of the masses

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09-18-2017 02:09 PM  7 days agoPost 6
RM3

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I'm only saying that the Government has to keep things looking conventional in the eyes of the masses
you give the government WAY too much credit. keep in mind this is the same "Government" that had its servers hacked by "Guccifer" then tried to bury the whole thing because in the end they were too stupid to secure it. these are the very same people who get hacked every year, like the pentagon that gets its top secret tech stolen by the east on a monthly basis...

technology does not come from the government... it comes from inventors and entrepreneurs... the government just steals it and manages to ruin the security aspect of it on a daily basis, then goes and stalls its development to benefit the owners of older tech (think big oil).

they couldnt even manage to hack an Iphone that belonged to the San Bernardino terrorists... they had to cry to Apple to accomplish that... (I think apple did it for the FBI in secret).

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09-18-2017 07:47 PM  7 days agoPost 7
dilberteinstein

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Trump is being pressured to "do something" and I'm thinking maybe nothing is the right thing to do.

The man who does nothing does nothing wrong.

The leftists are saying Trump should negotiate with KIM...what is there to negotiate? Trump could publicly tell Kim if he is willing to disarm, then we are willing to talk...and that's about all he can do.

If Kim is not willing to disarm, what is there to talk about? If he doesn't disarm everything else doesn't matter.

In the meantime, preparing for an attack from North Korea wouldn't hurt anything.

Attacking North Korea is the wrong answer.

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09-18-2017 08:03 PM  6 days agoPost 8
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If they don't attack the US, why should we be concerned?
Because he is a direct threat to our allies in that region. What is the point of being allies if we leave them hanging when they need us?

Philippines, South Korea, Japan? Guam? Micronesia? Wake? That's just to name a few. Believe it or not, them being wiped out by NK will affect you financially and strategically. Then it wouldn't take much to be right on the US doorstep...aka Hawaii...happened once before.. It will not happen again.

Do you think he would stop there?

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09-18-2017 11:49 PM  6 days agoPost 9
dilberteinstein

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If Kim is willing to disarm, I'm good with negotiating.

But if he won't disarm his nukes, what happens if we attack him? I have no doubt a preemptive strike would take out his military.

That's what we did with Saddam Hussein and look at that mess. Yeah Saddam Hussein was a bad guy and we took him down, but the whole Middle East is a mess.

Attacking North Korea puts the whole Far East at risk with China.

If Kim is willing to disarm, I'm good with negotiating but not risking WWIII.

If Kim attacks even one country, I'm good with sending him to sky high.

I surely would want South Korea, Japan, and others in that area to tell us exactly what they want.

You may think I don't know a lot military matters, but I garnered a lot of respect from my superiors when I was in the Army...as a matter of fact I was addressed by my unofficial rank...General Screwup.

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09-19-2017 02:17 PM  6 days agoPost 10
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I have never advocated the assassination of another countries leader. However, I would make an exception for Lil' Kim Young Fat Boy, or any tyrannical leader that threatens the worlds people on a daily basis such as he does.

His family has held the world (and their own citizens) hostage for far too long.

It is time to take out the trash.

No I am not talking about all out war. Their are plenty of ways to get to him. He knows it and so do we. Why do you think he is posturing so much?

'Look at me, look at me, LOOK AT ME!'

His time is almost over. The question is: How deep down the pyramid of corruption (leadership) do we go? 1 general, 2 generals, 3?

A 'deal' needs to be made prior to his demise.

It will happen...hopefully sooner then later. On a bright note, love seeing Japan build up it's military forces again. About time.

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09-19-2017 02:32 PM  6 days agoPost 11
Ladymagic

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If Kim is willing to disarm, I'm good with negotiating
Yes, that would be wonderful. But if that were the case, he would have done so by now. He won't because his nukes are his best bargaining chip. Plus you ever wonder who's been helping them with their nuclear program? China? Russia?

What Un really wants is a Korean peninsula unified under one communist banner. His family lineage has wanted this at least since before 1950. South Korea wants unification also.

Problems is South Korea has flourished as a democratic nation and does NOT want to be subjugated by a communist regime understandably so.

There is no compromise. I spoke with South Korean taxi driver a few months ago and I was naively speaking to him as though we were doing him a favor by trying to keep the peace between both sides and he said he wished the US just obliterated NK instead of just an Armistice. I was surprised because many families were split when the DMZ was created. He just wanted NK gone.
Attacking North Korea puts the whole Far East at risk with China.
Exactly. China is the main reason we can't just go in an mow over NK. We could but China will take any action against NK as an act of aggression against them because NK is China's border buffer. That's a can of worms nobody wants to deal with.

It would destabilize the entire pacific region economically and strategically. I don't believe China really likes NK nor do they want a fight but they will and I bet Russia would join is also. It would be an expensive war and would cost many lives.

It's really a no win for anyone and NK knows it...that's why they are so bold. They know they would lose heads up, but also they know what's at stake for everyone else. SK would suffer the most.

Mellisa

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09-19-2017 05:06 PM  6 days agoPost 12
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...as usual, it all comes down to money.

its going to get to the point that Companies and investors making billions from cheap Chinese crap are gonna have to eat $hit and die along with NK military.

I think the US and for the most part the rest of the world will survive just fine AFTER the destruction of NK...

We really should go after China too, they seem to be pulling strings all over the world, but claim to be victims while doing it.

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09-19-2017 05:20 PM  6 days agoPost 13
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^^^^^^^ exactly!!!!

I started learning Mandarin -just in case


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09-19-2017 06:56 PM  6 days agoPost 14
utahbob

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what we outta do..

Is send Seth Rogen and James Franco over there with a big box o'ganga and a bunch of porn..to settle that dude's nerves..and if they don't come back we will at least not have to endure anymore lame movies from those two!

I do a great decending funnel!

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09-19-2017 07:33 PM  6 days agoPost 15
RM3

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Im pretty sure Lil Kim has all the porn, hookers, drugs and cheese burgers he wants...

the one thing men (even short fat ones) with power/money ever want is more power/money.

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09-19-2017 08:20 PM  5 days agoPost 16
dilberteinstein

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Ladymagic

It's really a no win for anyone and NK knows it...that's why they are so bold. They know they would lose heads up, but also they know what's at stake for everyone else. SK would suffer the most.
I totally agree. I think anything to be done in that region needs to be in complete agreement with SK, Japan, and others.

We need to pressure NK neighbors to tell us straight up...what do you want?

Our taking out bad regimes has led to many deaths and has only caused more turmoil in the world.

I do not agree with the US deciding the fate of the far east.

Right now the suffering caused by Kim is restricted to a portion of the people in NK. Any military action can only cause that to spread.

Doing nothing is an option.

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09-19-2017 08:29 PM  5 days agoPost 17
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Right now the suffering caused by Kim is restricted to a portion of the people in NK. Any military action can only cause that to spread.
Doing nothing is an option
So what do you suggest? wait for Mr chubby to missile the crap out of Guam?, then Hawaii, followed by the East Coast.

Our military has already acknowledged that we only have a missile hit probability of 40%... and that little $hit has plenty of missiles to fire the moment another woman confuses his penis for a nipple...

"Doing" nothing is what Obama did... and the very reason Kim now has nukes.

doing nothing now is akin to letting go of the steering wheel and feet off the petals just before an impending freeway crash while yelling "Jesus take the wheel..."

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09-19-2017 09:26 PM  5 days agoPost 18
dilberteinstein

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RM3

^^^That's pretty much what I'm saying.

Our record on regime changes has been very poor and I have little doubt NK would nuke SK right away if we made any kind of move...other than totally destroying NK.

An unless we are willing to use a preemptive strike on NK and have our guns loaded for China and maybe Russia, this is our best plan of inaction.

Who wants war and maybe WWIII?...nobody.

Who wants negotiations?...everybody.

What is there to negotiate?...without KIM disarming, nothing.

I suggesting there is nothing to negotiate and war is the last option.

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09-19-2017 11:26 PM  5 days agoPost 19
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We really should go after China too, they seem to be pulling strings all over the world, but claim to be victims while doing it
I wouldn't recommend it; picture 6 million clowns getting out of one clown car. That's what it would look like if we picked a fight with China. Plus, they've copied pretty much all of our technologies...might not be as high quality but it will still do the job. Just think about Align.

Mellisa

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09-20-2017 03:01 AM  5 days agoPost 20
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We need to go to China and Russia and tell them that they either put a stop to this right now or we are going to give South Korea and Japan every kind of nuke we own.
See if they like that on their borders.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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