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09-02-2017 04:58 PM  17 days agoPost 1
dustyattic

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Castle, Oklahoma

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Well I signed in here last night for the first time in a couple of years. I noticed my last post was requesting a briefing about what had happened to the hobby in the previous 3 years. I guess I like to take multi-year breaks from flying helicopters.

I thought I'd ask here again for a current update.

I had the urge to trade/give away all my old helis and buy a new kit to start fresh...something with good parts and aftermarket support. I was surprised to find that during my initial searches, I can't even find anyone selling glow powered helicopters anymore.
Can you even get a basic foundational sport heli like the Hawk Pro, or Raptor 30/50, etc? If vendor names aren't allowed, please PM the info.

I'm not sure how I feel about electric. If I have to go that way, I'll consider it. I actually enjoy the fuel engine aspect of it.

Thanks

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09-02-2017 05:30 PM  17 days agoPost 2
Evolite

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Nitro is awesome... I built a big electric this year and sad to say it just doesn't do it for me like my nitros do

but really the technology is a lot better while a bit more expensive at the same time

have you looked at synergy stuff n5c and n7 are great helis I'd be hard pressed to recommend anything else.

that said the pantera 50 is a great beginner heli

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09-02-2017 05:40 PM  17 days agoPost 3
EEngineer

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TX

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"but really the technology is a lot better while a bit more expensive at the same time"

Tech is definitely better, but.....

Is it really more expensive if one accounts for inflation over a period of time?.....

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09-03-2017 01:19 AM  17 days agoPost 4
utahbob

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St. George Utah

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All the fun is still there for those that are motivated..

I still like my nitro's but in all honesty flying these light; nimble and powerful electric heli's have re-invigorated my interest in getting out and flying..there's many good models out there to choose from!

I do a great decending funnel!

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09-03-2017 01:58 AM  17 days agoPost 5
PaulBowen

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East coast Australia.

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I'd like a move toward more linkages, fly bars and mechanical complexity, oh and some more smoke!

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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09-03-2017 03:28 AM  17 days agoPost 6
EEngineer

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TX

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And FBL controllers with more telemetry capabilities, too....

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09-03-2017 11:59 AM  16 days agoPost 7
Dan Minick

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Columbus, WI

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Whatever you do dont believe all these guys condemning fuel powered saying electric is so much EASIER or cheaper. By the time you drag your power supply, charger, generator(maybe) to the field on top of buying all the batteries, and maintaining all those batteries. Electric has its place dont get me wrong, I have had many models and will have many more. But if you dont mind fuel power, there is no reason you NEED to switch.

Team Synergy, Team FBL Rotors---Formerly Dyecocker1-------if its not broke...it will be!

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09-03-2017 01:09 PM  16 days agoPost 8
learnedthehrdwy

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Saginaw, MI

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The initial​purchase of batteries and a charger is pricey but after that you can pile on 300 flights a month for 2-4yrs without buying a drop of fuel. Plus the modern electronic will make your nitro feel like there's an elephant in the cockpit.

Can always buy a cheap 450 electric then grab a 50w charger off Craigslist for $20 plus a few 6s 1200mah for $20ea to try it out. The smaller lipos don't last as long but you still get 800+ flights out of each $20 battery.

Doesn't have to be expensive, all how deep you want to dive just like many things in this hobby. Even a charging setup for a 700 doesn't have to break the bank.

Fly em both since they're both great in their own ways

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09-03-2017 01:16 PM  16 days agoPost 9
EEngineer

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TX

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"By the time you drag your power supply, charger, generator(maybe) to the field on top of buying all the batteries, and maintaining all those batteries."

I don't go to the field for a campout.....

Just take my batteries to the field.....and they're easy to maintain.....

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09-03-2017 01:19 PM  16 days agoPost 10
fastflyer20

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N. Tonawanda, NY

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While electric is the most prevalent, nitro seems to be having a bit of resurgence.

A few that come to mind:
Trex 600
Trex 700
Synergy N5c
Synergy N7
SAB Goblin Black Nitro (650-700)
MSH Protos Nitro (700) being released late Fall

It does not matter how you power it, just enjoy the hobby!

Tom
CAUTION - my posts are based on my experiences, yours may be different.

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09-03-2017 01:33 PM  16 days agoPost 11
EEngineer

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One big difference between glow and electric is the flight times, regardless of the support equipment needed....

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09-03-2017 02:03 PM  16 days agoPost 12
icanfly

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ontario

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it isn't a matter of lipo or fuel it's all about horse power, electric wins that debate. So what guys do is put a 120 in a 90 to increase glow hp closer to e power for the same size heli. Electric has poor flight times between reloading lipos compared to glow refueling though if you could match hp neck and neck the glow motor would sip fuel as quickly in as few minutes as e power in a flight time comparison. The heli might need something like a 250 to match e hp, energy per mah or energy per ml/3, what do you want the heli to do for you?.

120 replacements for 90s is what has changed.

and EE, there's a "quote" icon on the top bar in blue in the reply page. Highlight the sections you want quoted and click the "quote" tag to make your reply quotes stand out more in a box in the replies, makes it easier to read the reply knowing what was is being quoted from other statements, like this
abcdefg
this should be my new hf acc one day

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09-03-2017 02:27 PM  16 days agoPost 13
EEngineer

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TX

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and EE, there's a "quote" icon on the top bar in blue in the reply page.
Oh, I get it......thanks.....

So that's what everybody's been griping about......LOL

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09-03-2017 04:16 PM  16 days agoPost 14
dustyattic

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Castle, Oklahoma

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Thanks a lot for the info.

For me, while the fuel/electric debate is important, it's secondary to the consideration of which model company is still in business, and most likely will be in a few years. Align doesn't look to fade away soon, does it?

I was also pointed toward Audacity, which I do like.

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09-03-2017 04:33 PM  16 days agoPost 15
utahbob

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St. George Utah

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It depends on your goals as a pilot..

If you want to push your skills in the 3d direction..watch some competition vids and see which brands really perform..just my Humble opinion.

I do a great decending funnel!

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09-03-2017 08:38 PM  16 days agoPost 16
Andy from Sandy

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Bedfordshire, UK

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One big difference between glow and electric is the flight times
With my OS55 properly tuned I am getting 9 1/2 minutes with my T-Rex 600N.

With favourable weather conditions I can get 10 minute flights.

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09-03-2017 09:44 PM  16 days agoPost 17
PaulBowen

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East coast Australia.

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I know there is the cost factor but I'm not sure a 450 should ever be used as a comparative example.

I personally think electric is probably a little cheaper depending on setup but I still really don't enjoy charging at all. My Vibe E8 is absolutely lovely to fly and never fails to entertain me. My Forza 450 on the otherhand I don't really consider a real rc helicopter. To me it feels more toy like, almost drone like. I know they have their place but it just doesn't keep me interested. I don't want to downplay anyone's pride aand joy helicopters but any less than a 550 just doesn't feel like a serious machine to me.

I'm also not a fan of direct servo to swash linkages. For me less complexity means a lot less brain stimulation and eventual boredom. Buying glow and gas powered helicopters has reignited my passion and enjoyment for this hobby.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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09-05-2017 02:25 AM  15 days agoPost 18
chicken

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naugatuck, ct,usa

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Well, dustyattic in my neck of the woods my main hobby sore is closing & the other which primarily carried nitro buggies/ truggies & has an outdoor track has stop that portion. And another one closed earlier this year. So it's starting to look pretty grim.
Too catch you up to speed on nitro heli's they seemed to take a back seat to the electric heli. And if you're going to take that kind of break from the hobby then the electrics are the way too go. No clogged engines.
Also quite a few vendors aren't available any more. Thunder tiger, Miniature, J.R.just off the top of my head

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09-05-2017 03:04 AM  15 days agoPost 19
reddragon

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Brooklyn, N.Y.

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I have never had a clogged engine and I get much longer flight times on my nitros.

But to each his own. Electrics are much easier, just plug and play. Electrics are clean. Each has it's place.

Wayne - Fly it like you stole it! You're in good hands with Runryder!

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09-05-2017 04:17 PM  14 days agoPost 20
dustyattic

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Castle, Oklahoma

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I thought Thunder Tiger was a juggernaut that would never die.

I guess what I'll do, is get rid of my obsolete helis, (JR Venture 30, ElyQ Vision 50) repair my Hawk Pro, and possibly buy an Audacity P6n.

Any psychics have an idea as to whether Audacity will be in business in 5 years?

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