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08-15-2017 02:19 AM  8 months agoPost 1
AaronBmore

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So here is my setup,
Sab Goblin Black Nitro 700 also an Align Trex 600pro with dfc head,

Both setups are nitro so throttle servo, backplate sensor, and onboard glow. I use one channel for bank switching and one for gyro adjustments.

I would like to put rescue on a switch.
With all the channels used I am unsure how to do this.
I really don't want to dedicate an entire bank to rescue, or auto level.
Does anyone know of a way to accomplish my goal?
Thanks in advance

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08-15-2017 09:58 AM  8 months agoPost 2
Eury

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Assuming you are out of channels, do it like the older versions of the Ikon firmware required and dedicate one of your 3 banks to rescue. When you flip that switch to the bank, the heli will level and go up.

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08-15-2017 01:23 PM  8 months agoPost 3
AaronBmore

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This is precisely what I am trying to avoid... There are channels in the ikon for settings. Is it possible to use one of them?. I have a dx9 tx. As far as I can tell I'm only using 8 channels currently.

I dont WANT to break it!

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08-15-2017 01:32 PM  8 months agoPost 4
Eury

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Ok, your original post says "with all channels used", I read that as you had used all the channels so you couldn't do it any other way.

In the rescue screen there is a check box for use aux channel for rescue or something similar. Check that, then in the advanced settings pick an unused channel from your radio in the aux selector. In your radio you should be able to assign that channel to a switch, and you'll be good to go.

Here's a YouTube video, not mine, just the first link when you google it:

Watch at YouTube

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08-26-2017 12:51 AM  8 months agoPost 5
AaronBmore

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Took another look.... My aux channel is being used for my switchglo pro.. I can make it ALSO activate rescue, but the switchglo also ignites the plug and beeps.
The main problem I can see with this is the onboard ignitor beeps for 12 seconds and stops. I usually forget to flip that particular switch back to off position.

I can't find an AUX 2. Just seems that ikon channels are limited when they shouldn't be.. damnit I can't get what I want with Ikon and Vbar is too expensive to switch all my helis to.....

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08-26-2017 04:04 AM  8 months agoPost 6
Santiago P

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Hey AaronBmore

I am very ol school when it comes to anything extraneous as any form of rescue.
Meaning I rather rescue my own ass out off a ugly circumstance every time.

I tested the HeliCommand / Bavaian Demon uit about 30 times for starters. The unit worked as advertised every time.

What do I should say objectively?

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08-27-2017 08:04 AM  8 months agoPost 7
rik

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Even if you do not say which radio and receiver do you use, you have two options:

1) If using rescue on the AUX channel means you are not using a "Standard" receiver but you are using a "Serial" receiver. Usually, all serial receivers in addition to the serial bus connector have other ports to which servos can be connected, and in many systems these receiver ports can be programmed on any channel.
Simply connect the Glow Switch to a receiver port that you can assign to channel 9 or 10 or 11 or 12, etc.

2) Instead of activating Brain Rescue on the AUX channel, activates it on one of the three Setups. The Setup change function will be on a separate switch and as suggested in the instructions is different from the Idle Up switch. Instead of using the switch you assigned to the AUX channel to activate Rescue, you will activate Rescue by changing the Setup.

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08-27-2017 02:08 PM  7 months agoPost 8
AaronBmore

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Sorry rik, you are so right, i didnt mention what tx i am using. My fault.

Using a Spektrum DX9 with DSMX satellites directly into sat ports of the ikon2.
My switchglo ignitor is controlled by the aux channel.

I can get rescue to be triggered by the aux channel in all banks, but the switchglo also turns on at the same time.
I would like to have two separate switches(channels) operate rescue and ignitor.

As far as i am aware, the aux channel cannot be triggered below a single threshold. E.G. 0%=off to 100%=Rescue and glo.

It would be nice to be able to set it up similar to cleanflight or betaflight so i could have a 3-position switch set up like, 0% off, 50% switchglo, 100% rescue. I would then be able to have my ignitor on a switch and set up a mix to trigger rescue on another switch

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09-02-2017 04:12 PM  7 months agoPost 9
rik

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"I would like to have two separate switches(channels) operate rescue and ignitor."

As I have already explained in my precedent post, you can use in your transmitter a switch for the transmitter channel assigned in the Brain to the AUX output (CH2/Aux) and another separate and different switch for another transmitter channel assigned in the Brain to the change Setup function.
In one of the three setup (for example Setup n°3) you can activate AutoLevel+Rescue checkbox.
So, when you move the transmitter switch for change from Setup n°1/2 to Setup n°3 you activate AutoLevel+Rescue. After Rescue is finished you can return to Setup n°1 or n°2.
With the other switch assigned to the Brain Aux channel, you can activate the Glow Ignitor connected to the Aux port of Brain (CH2/Aux).
Obviously, you must deactivate the AutoLevel+Rescue functions on the Brain Aux channel because you already use those functions on the Setup n°3 (or setup n°2 or Setup n°1)

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09-02-2017 05:31 PM  7 months agoPost 10
AaronBmore

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Yup, and as I said in original post, Rik, is that I would like to avoid using an entire bank to activate rescue. The purpose of this post was to find out if I there's a second aux channel that I didn't know about. I think the long and short of it is "No." I would suggest to ikon that they open the additional channels to the possible assignment of rescue. So nitro models that may use a physical channel for an igniter may also use rescue on a separate channel without the need of dedicating a bank to it

I dont WANT to break it!

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09-02-2017 08:32 PM  7 months agoPost 11
pctomlin

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Generally you don't mess with tail gain much, if at all once you have it set. Why not set gyro gain to software and use channel 5 for the igniter?

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09-03-2017 07:02 AM  7 months agoPost 12
rik

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"I would like to avoid using an entire bank to activate rescue",
Ok, but can you explain why? The switch of Setup to enable Auto Level has been used with Brain for many years. From the exit of Brain in the market in 2012 till now. Only last year has been added the possibility to switch Auto Level also with a separate channel (Aux).
Normally Setups are not used/switched. Are switched only to try different parameters values during the flight and decide which value is better. But now in Brain there is also the possibility to assign a parameter to up to three transmitter dials and find during the flight the ideal value for that parameter, land and memorize with sticks the new value as default value. So, the initial use of Setup to find perfect values for Brain parameters has lost many of his importance.

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09-03-2017 08:02 AM  7 months agoPost 13
Heli Fanatix

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Here is a suggestion:

- use an Align 2 and 1 or something similar instead of the switch pro
- heat up ur glow plug via button on unit and not an AUX Channel from TX
- now you are free to use the AUX Channel for Rescue

- Scott

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09-06-2017 02:33 AM  7 months agoPost 14
AaronBmore

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That would work fanatix. But it just sucks to have to do it that way. Especially because Ikon2 has like 16 channels

I dont WANT to break it!

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09-06-2017 11:33 AM  7 months agoPost 15
FLYERCLD

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There is another way you can do what you want.
You need a Y cable and Y your SwitchGlow to your auto switch, that will free up your AUX for what you need. When you need to auto your Heli, you will have glo on your plug and not have to worry that your engine will stop.

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09-08-2017 12:12 PM  7 months agoPost 16
AaronBmore

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There is no "auto switch" on the ikon. Throttle hold is controlled in the tx. How the governor responds to that is bailout settings in software. Putting a Wye into any channel for switchglo would end up in sporadic behavior by the glow.

I dont WANT to break it!

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09-08-2017 01:17 PM  7 months agoPost 17
ICUR1-2

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AaronBmore
you have a dx9.. does it have aux4 ?
I am using dx8 but I notice it is the radio that you set the Aux to the switch you want. try using aux4 for the glow and aux3 for bailout set to the switch you want

spending time, paying attention

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09-08-2017 04:07 PM  7 months agoPost 18
Heli Fanatix

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Here is another option

Get a RX with at least 7ch
- run an external independent RX to ikon setup
- connect the separate leads from your RX to ikon
- on the RX, use the AUX2 for your Glo
- AUX can now be used for RESCUE via ikon's internal AUX

this involves extra components and wiring but essentially let you do what you wanted

- Scott

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