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08-14-2017 03:38 AM  4 months agoPost 61
EEngineer

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OK, but what's this "how I connected the dots"?

Just curious.....and I didn't post anything until this 501c4 business came up.....and the post about helping Mark when he might not have wanted help.....

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08-14-2017 03:45 AM  4 months agoPost 62
Doublah

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Charles, why change your whole three paragraph post now??? You posted it so stand by it. Now you erase and talk about Unicorns?? Re post what you said on HF!

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08-14-2017 03:47 AM  4 months agoPost 63
EEngineer

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I confused what "connect the dots" referred to....sorry....

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08-14-2017 03:17 PM  4 months agoPost 64
Chris Bergen

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Sorry, not here all that much..

The dots I was referring to was connecting the Non profit status of IRCHA to the offer by IRCHA of paying Marks way to the Jamboree and Charles' now deleted post...

Looks like a stretch to me.. but thats my opinion...

Chris D. Bergen

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08-14-2017 03:25 PM  4 months agoPost 65
EEngineer

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"Looks like a stretch to me"

Looked like two different issues to me.

But, the posts were made....on both issues.

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08-14-2017 05:06 PM  4 months agoPost 66
EEngineer

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"Re post what you said on HF!"

He can't.....that tool TP has "chimed in" there....and everybody knows what that means....

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08-15-2017 02:24 AM  4 months agoPost 67
finless

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All.... I refuse to go to IRCHA ever again unless something changes!
MUCH CORRUPTION.. I have proof and after I learned what went on in 2009 with a raffle, NO MORE.

Mark Ryder gets it.... In fact in about 2010 he and I talked about "how IRCHA has changed" It's all about money and SOMEONE is lining their pockets!

So get this as an example... The flood lights for night flying were paid for by donations and when that did not cover it, IRCHA then begged for more and a company (name with held) had to pick up the difference. For an organization that charges about $10K for a center stage tent, they cannot cover lights for night flying?

Something is seriously wrong!

A full AUDIT by the AMA should be ordered!
Trust me on this.

Bob

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08-15-2017 02:52 AM  4 months agoPost 68
chas1025

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Umm, somebody got hold of the peyote...

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08-15-2017 03:25 AM  4 months agoPost 69
finless

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Really? Drugs?
Of everyone in the hobby that might make a statement like this, you think I am lying to you? Really.... Me?
Trust.... I am not and I have much proof and whitnesses...

Bob

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08-15-2017 03:37 AM  4 months agoPost 70
finless

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Including ME!

So Charles..... In 2009 you and Dave Milner did not pay off a "vendor" by rigging the raffle to give him the prize? You took a DONATED product in the raffle and then "rigged it" to pay off a supplier to IRCHA...

Are you denying that? Because trust me... Several people know about it and saw it go down INCLUDING the supplier! None of them are "in the business anymore" and ARE NOW willing to talk about it. Including ME!

So you say I am taking drugs?

All the community should call for a FULL AMA audit of your books! Going back to at least 2007 (my first IRCHA). You have not had a BOD election since I can remember!

And $10K for a center stage tent.... Add them up and MY GOD.. at least $200K...

SOMEONE is getting their house paid for!

It's TIME for a closer look! Or are you afraid Charles?

Bob

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08-15-2017 03:46 AM  4 months agoPost 71
finless

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See Charles... I have no "skin" in the game anymore.. Yet I know so much.
If you try to sue me for slander, your books will be opened and I am ready for that.

I have been holding "this thing" for years. It has bothered me "for years". I hated when I saw it happen. Now I must speak out TRUTHFULLY....

I saw you make a post on the first page about "how about you run a local funfly". Well I have been involved with like 30 locally here for several years!
Everyone in Socal still knows me. I work with clubs and help them make a successful funfly! It actually works and is a lot of fun AND TO THIS DAY.... ASK ANY OF THEM... I have never been paid a single dollar! I gave my time for the hobby... Something YOU have lost sight of for money...

Funny... I remember Charles you asking after the 2010 Helifreak Funfly on the west coast... "can we be IRCHA West".... You know the answer you got! And trust it was from ME not Will James!

I cannot stand corruption.... PERIOD...

Bob

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08-15-2017 03:54 AM  4 months agoPost 72
jbjones

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finless: All the community should call for a FULL AMA audit of your books!
If the community would like to speak up, make the AMA aware. Use your district contacts. If you don't know them, you can find them here:

AMA District contacts

J. B. Jones

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08-15-2017 04:20 AM  4 months agoPost 73
chas1025

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bob,

To say I have no idea what you are talking about is an understatement. You have to forgive me as I don't drink. If I did, some of what you said might make more sense.

Now why would you think IRCHA would be foolish enough to charge 10,000 per tent if it could get 20,000.

Also, of course IRCHA doesn't use the money to buy houses (houses are a sensible investment), the money goes into the IRCHA presidential retirement fund. Upon serving no less than 15 years the outgoing president receives the motorhome of their choice. We also include a free skin cancer check with a local dermatologist since the retiring president would have spent 150 days outside in Muncie to help run the event. As you know, UV exposure is cumulative and it would only make sense to offer this as an additional perk.

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08-15-2017 04:28 AM  4 months agoPost 74
finless

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Charles... OK... Show the books then...
You can explain all you want. Show the books of what you say!

But then I go back to what has bothered me since 2009.
The rigging of the pilots raffle to pay off a vendor!
Seems you like to avoid that one?
It's bothered me since 2009! It's why as a "life time member with FREE IRCHA fees", I have not been back.

Deny it? The first clue is to actually watch Mark Ryders videos of that raffle. The final proof is the people now willing to speak about it.

I hate corruption! And trust that was corrupt! And if you did it with one vendor and one raffle prize.... How many else?

If you came clean on that, might say a lot!

You do realize I can NAME the prize, the vendor, AND exactly in Mark's video the instance. You do know it's on video? And not just Mark's video either...

As for if you drink or not... What are you saying? What does that have to do with anything I am talking about? Trying to discredit what I am saying as truth in some way?

Bob

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08-15-2017 04:34 AM  4 months agoPost 75
chas1025

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bob,

To say I have no idea what you are talking about is an understatement. You have to forgive me as I don't drink. If I did, some of what you said might make more sense.

You must have missed the reply above so I typed this one slower.

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08-15-2017 04:38 AM  4 months agoPost 76
finless

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Odd... Not sure what your implying Charles? Not drinking means what? That you did not rig a raffle?

This will not get brushed away by personally attacking me... Remember... I have no skin in the game anymore so.... I do not care how you personally attack me...
So your going to say because I drink, it did not happen or something?

Makes no sense but OK... Go there... LMAO...

Bob

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08-15-2017 05:01 AM  4 months agoPost 77
finless

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Look folks... And I am going to say it clearly...

Dave and Charles RIGGED the pilots raffle in 2009 to "pay off a vendor".
They took a donated product from a Heli vendor (Align) and rigged the raffle to give that vendor the prize in payment for cash they should have paid to the vendor.

Not going to say more but I have the facts. Video and personal testimony. This includes video "at the time".

IRCHA needs to answer to this and an AMA investigation should be held.

Nothing more to say!
If no one cares after this.... So be it...
I made my statement and it's off my chest after all these years.

Bob

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08-15-2017 11:30 AM  4 months agoPost 78
chas1025

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I have to ask (I expect the answer to be good, so please don't disappoint me), why did IRCHA need to pay off a vendor. Was this because they found out IRCHA might be an early investor in Cosmic Pizza?

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08-15-2017 12:59 PM  4 months agoPost 79
Tyler

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Charles,

Show the official, legal, accurate financial reports, unless they happen to be stored in a private server in your basement, soon to be wiped clean with special software and smashed with a hammer.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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08-15-2017 01:41 PM  4 months agoPost 80
lazor 22

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The childish comebacks are not helping your case Charles Anderson

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