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07-14-2017 05:56 PM  4 months agoPost 21
spaceman spiff

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He should not have had to validate himself like that to anyone as to his allegiance on the grounds that he simply does not look like you.
The title of this thread is "My kind of Muslim". A guy who looks like that is a guy who looks like that, plus most likely a follower of islam. Without the Islam he is just like us.

No doubt you have noticed a lot of contempt for anyone who follows the religion of progress, and a lot of contempt for anyone conservative. Those attitudes are very strong and extreemly easily triggered without knowing anything about the actual person. For example a guy who looks exactly like me but drives a Volvo with a Bernie sanders sticker. It could be his wife's car, and his Harley is in the shop, but we all could rattle off a list of grievances about that person and more often that not they would be nearly 100% correct.

If I perceive that someone is a Muslim, and he perceives that I am not, there is a pretty high probability he thinks I am an infidel, and guess what? I am.

It is not helpful to convert every issue into an issue of wavelengths of light. To a child with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

PS The guy looks more like a Mexican to me.

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07-14-2017 06:40 PM  4 months agoPost 22
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The title of this thread is "My kind of Muslim". A guy who looks like that is a guy who looks like that, plus most likely a follower of Islam. Without the Islam he is just like us.
Exactly
Those attitudes are very strong and extremely easily triggered without knowing anything about the actual person.
Yes, I observed this since the Obama days, but more so since Trump became President. I try to understand both sides and look at things objectively, but seems like there's not a lot of objectivity in many of these types of threads here.

You are either FOR TRUMP or you're a "libratard."
If you liked Obama, you support BLM. (normal black ppl can't stand BLM btw.)
If you don't agree to ban ALL MUSLIMS or "mussies" you must support ISIS.

Your post seems more like someone whom has taken the time to look at both ends of the stick. I appreciate your candor.

Mellisa

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07-14-2017 07:13 PM  4 months agoPost 23
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Well, that little puke Kim Jung Un is a freaking psycho....

So, you just be safe over there.....

And thanks for your service to our great country....

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07-14-2017 07:42 PM  4 months agoPost 24
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Kim Jung Un is a freaking psycho
I can't say he's psycho but he's definitely got issues.

...yeah, okay he's freak'n nuts.
He's the reason I have to sweat my butt off in this chem gear all the time. But don't worry we got your back here at the RoK.
And thanks for your service to our great country....
I love what I do and I happy to do it; no need for thanks...but I do appreciate you.

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07-14-2017 09:18 PM  4 months agoPost 25
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Ladymagic

To prove his allegiance despite the fact that he is an American born citizen, that he felt the need to post a video proclaiming he is ex Muslim by performing pointless acts.
What you and I consider pointless acts may have deeper meaning to others.

For whatever reason, this ex Muslim feels the personal need to demonstrate to his friends (and maybe more to himself) that he has totally broken the shackles of Islam.

He calls it a "baptism". This not my idea of "baptism", but it is his.

90% of life is "showing up"

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07-14-2017 09:26 PM  4 months agoPost 26
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that he has totally broken the shackles of Islam.
He calls it a "baptism". This not my idea of "baptism", but it is his.
actually no he has not...

Islam (stated in the Koran) explicitly allows them to break ANY rules mandated for the purpose of advancing the caliphate and spread of Islam...

Look it up.

you cant win against an enemy that breaks all rules for the purpose of a clearly defined end goal.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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07-14-2017 09:32 PM  4 months agoPost 27
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"no need for thanks"

Well, I think you deserve a big thanks...and a hug...

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07-14-2017 11:37 PM  4 months agoPost 28
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Islam (stated in the Koran) explicitly allows them to break ANY rules mandated for the purpose of advancing the caliphate and spread of Islam...
Look it up.
I read about half of the Koran many years ago, unfortunately I don't remember much of it at this point, but that statement does not surprise me.

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07-15-2017 02:07 AM  4 months agoPost 29
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This video states that very principal of breaking Islamic law for the purpose of expanding Islam.

Bottom line... never trust ANY Muslim

Watch at YouTube

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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07-17-2017 05:21 PM  4 months agoPost 30
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Bottom line... never trust ANY Muslim
After watching that video it would seem your statement might be true. Even so, I would rather look at the PERSON versus what religion they practice. Plus.....

That's like saying "every Mexican is an illegal alien and a rapist in the US." or "every black person in the US is a drug dealing thief on welfare." or "every woman is weak and needs a man to make their decisions for them."or....here's a good one. " all white people are racist...especially the ones that support Trump."

These are real statements from people here on RR and from people I've come across at some point. Any of the blanket statements true? Or is only the statement that mostly applies to you not true?

Maybe I'm naïve, but I can't accept that every single Muslim is somehow a Jihadist hell bent on killing all Christians and infidels. Who's the good guy or the bad guy is all subjective.

One of the advantages of working in the USAF is you are exposed to different people who practice various faiths and come from all kinds of back grounds whether you like it or not. Don't like women in charge, "gays", blacks", Mexicans, or "mussies? Too bad...chances are you WILL supervise or you WILL be supervised by one or all of them at some point in your career. You never know one of them could save your bacon in combat situation or even just in an everyday type emergency. Would you care then?

At some point, we all ask the tough questions about common stereo types and misconceptions with the understanding that we are simply seeking insight and most of the time they are completely off base or just plain wrong. Sometimes its fun to joke about some of the things that would otherwise cause huge conflicts between individuals.

I don't agree with blowing people up for nothing and if what she says are real facts and not facts skewed by someone to support a one-sided view point then that is very scary, but enlightening non the less.

And if I choose not to like someone I hope its because they did something as an individual or a personality conflict not simply because of whom they look to be associated with.

ciao

Mellisa

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07-17-2017 05:40 PM  4 months agoPost 31
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LadyMagic, my oldest grand daughter is army-strong and getting ready to deploy to a "sandbox". Her job there will be convoy driver/lead vehicle.

We are proud of her and her service, just as we are equally proud of and support all whom choose to serve.

As stated earlier, thank you, and I do so sincerely.

Gerry Cullan,
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07-17-2017 05:43 PM  4 months agoPost 32
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I see it more as the 'here is a jar of 1000 blue jelly beans . . . 999 are fine, but one contains an untreatable neurotoxin. You have 5 minutes - what do you do?' Most folks say the risk is too great, reject the entire batch . . . a liberal will force someone else to chow down, claiming 'acceptable risk' (even though they are not the one at risk). Sure, if time permits, test them all . . . but rarely is that the case. The parallel is 100% . . . beans -> muslims, risk->terrorism, 'test them all' -> extreme vetting. (And my '1 in 1000' figure is just conversational nonsense . . .).

But for now, the only choices are we reject the whole load and an unacceptable risk, or we allow shielded politicians to put citizens at risk based on their babblings and lack of personal risk. And if we can find an effective test, then great! But we don't have one, and we owe citizens of other nations exactly nothing, so the only logical and sane choice at this time is to reject the entire batch! Sure, you are singling out blue, but only after having proven that *that is where the risk is*! Duh!

Illegal aliens never had a right to enter, citizenship, or US Constitutional rights. Seems pretty clear cut there - there is an entry process - follow it, or be deported! Again, legally black and white in US code . . . just not in the fantasies of the libtards!

This may seem pretty harsh, but again, we owe foreign nationals *NOTHING*! Entry into the US is not a right, it's a priviledge that has an associated process. Anyone not valuing the priviledge enough to follow the process shows quite clearly that they are not deserving of it!

Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .

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07-17-2017 05:56 PM  4 months agoPost 33
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That's like saying "every Mexican is an illegal alien and a rapist in the US." or "every black person in the US is a drug dealing thief on welfare." or "every woman is weak and needs a man to make their decisions for them."or....here's a good one. " all white people are racist...especially the ones that support Trump."
"That's like saying"... no its not... here is why, none of your examples are based on religion and its purpose amoung those that have differing views and values as a result.
USAF... cool and thank you for doing your part, but Im an Ex ARMY COMBAT VET with deployments to Iraq, And first hand experience with them on the ground has lead me to believe that, yes they can be friends, and even decent neighbors, but trust them 100%... never, especially if they are devout muslims. We had many interpreters work for us when I was there... One day we took an additional soldier with us, a linguist, the Interpreter didnt know this soldiers skill set nor purpose. After the mission the linguist told us that our interpreter was not accurately translating for us, many times he would change what we said or add to the statements to suit them or flat out lie to benefit the locals (not us). later I found out that the Linguist's purpose was to identify bad interpreters that may have been misleading us... and he did find many.

therefore to trust them is to put yourself at risk if you do not meet their criteria for being worthy especially in a situation where lives are at risk when they hold the upper hand.
This may seem pretty harsh, but again, we owe foreign nationals *NOTHING*! Entry into the US is not a right, it's a privilege
bingo!

and for what its worth, none of us have a right to be here, its all a privilege... and to be worthy of this privaledge, we make this happen by serving our country, being productive citizens and being part of the political process (informed vote).

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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07-17-2017 09:15 PM  4 months agoPost 34
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And first hand experience with them on the ground has lead me to believe that, yes they can be friends, and even decent neighbors, but trust them 100%... never, especially if they are devout muslims. We had many interpreters work for us when I was there... One day we took an additional soldier with us, a linguist, the Interpreter didnt know this soldiers skill set nor purpose. After the mission the linguist told us that our interpreter was not accurately translating for us, many times he would change what we said or add to the statements to suit them or flat out lie to benefit the locals (not us). later I found out that the Linguist's purpose was to identify bad interpreters that may have been misleading us... and he did find many.
I'm not surprised at this - not surprised at all. In fact I kind of expect it and this is from reading what these people believe in. It's their faith that really makes them like this, and these PC leftist retards think all cultures are the same.

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07-17-2017 09:28 PM  4 months agoPost 35
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Having read Sowell's outstanding articles I am starting to see that the blame for ISIS and the present troubles rests entirely on your idiot, inept former president Barrack Obama. What a f@£king traitor he is to your country and the Western world in general.

Obama's ISIS speech was a hollow gesture

this statement stands out:


Obama may think of himself as a citizen of the world, but he was elected President of the United States, not head of a world government, and that does not authorize him to gamble the lives of Americans for the benefit of people in other countries.

And this idiot of yours (who for some totally messed up reason got the Nobel Prize for Peace) really thinks like a retard:


When Obama spoke of the danger of our being "drawn once more into a long and costly ground war in Iraq or Syria," that was yet another fantasy, that wars are optional.

When terrorists are at war with us, we cannot simply declare that war to be over, whenever it is politically convenient, as Obama did when he withdrew American troops from Iraq, against the advice of his own generals. That is what led to the rise of ISIS.

He was warned by his military advisors about the rise of ISIS, but instead he withdrew your troops leaving a power vacuum to be filled with these monsters. The islamists alone could NOT have organised into a military complex that ISIS became so, you ask, where did they get the military expertise from to form their organisation? Well it was a deal that the islamists made with the displaced top brass of Saddam Hussein's Army, they still wanted to fight and ISIS had a cause so they struck a deal, this was how they got so savvy in regards being hard to defeat.

Obama should be tried for war crimes (along with Bush and Blair but that is another story). He inherited their handy work and instead of finishing the job made a complete mess of it altogether and let the monsters in:

A Simple Question

It is no wonder why some commentator accuse Obama of secretly being a muslims or something. He is a disgrace to your country and he has the blood of those who had suffered under ISIS on his hands. For this I don't forgive him. But hey, the virtue signalling PC leftists retards always wanted a black president didn't they - as if we gave a sh$t.

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07-17-2017 11:30 PM  4 months agoPost 36
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Well, how about the UK politicians?

You always omit their complicity.....even going back to WW1.

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07-18-2017 08:27 PM  4 months agoPost 37
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Well, how about the UK politicians?
You always omit their complicity.....even going back to WW1.
no, I don't omit our complicity.

I just stated a few facts, there are other facts to be had too which I'm sure others will chime in on.

Knowing what I know every time I see Blair with this smile on TV or Obama with smiling on TV I shudder and feel a slight chill down my spine. These are the most hypocritically disingenuous individuals imaginable.

And speaking of WW1 I'm reading about the Sykes-Picot agreement and the background behind it and all I can say is: what a mess! The animosity between the French and the British was the catalyst for all the troubles in the Middle East now - you guys weren't even in on the scene yet.

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07-18-2017 09:16 PM  4 months agoPost 38
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"you guys weren't even in on the scene yet."

No?

Youze guyz were out of money and out of men....and until Pershing and the AEF rescued youze guyz....you'd still be in the trenches...all 25,000 miles of them.....

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